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Surya missiles-16000km range ICBMs of India

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it is even more good

if they fire a missile on pak

the missile will go to UK and then switzerland and then will again come to pak
 
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Exactly.
If I am not wrong, there were plans to buy something like this from Russia.

And as usual, it is posed like a Bharti made.
I dont even think Russia would sell ICBMs to anyone. :confused:

don't know about Indo-Russia ICBM deal but i know a country in Asia, who not only buy the whole god damn missile but also its paint ,now that's what i called a trick or treat question ................................:coffee::sniper:
 
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According to the report, the Surya is an intercontinental-range, surface-based, solid and liquid propellant ballistic missile. The report further adds that Surya is the most ambitious project in India's Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme.The Surya is speculated to have a range between 12,000 to 16,000 kilometers.

As the missile is yet to be developed, the specifications of the missile are not known and the entire program continues to remain highly secretive. Estimates of the range of this missile vary from 12,000 km to 16,000 km. It is believed to be a three-stage design, with the first two stages using solid propellants and the third-stage using liquid. In 2007, the Times of India reported that the DRDO is yet to reveal whether India's currently proposed ICBM will be called Agni-V (or Surya-1).] As of 2009 it was reported that the government had not considered an 8,000-km range ICBM.


Class: ICBM
Lasing: "Surface based",Underwater based in certain strategic areas & "Submarine" based is its most important aspect which may range up to 12,000 km
Length: 40.00 m
Diameter: 2.8 m
Launch Weight: 80,000 kg
Propulsion: First/second stage solid, third liquid
Warhead Capabilities: 3-10 nuclear warheads of 250-750 kilotons each
Status: Development / Developed to be tested
In Service: 2015
Range: 12,000 - 16,000 km

FAKE NEWS AND RUMORS MADE BY STRATEGIC PAGE
 
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well, at least i can safely say there is "surya" missile prog in india. the programme has not be declared officially so as not to antagonise the west. with the reported range of 12000-16000 Kms (not confirmed), india will have almost all major western countries in range including US. india doesnt want to create unnecessary pressure on itself by claiming the existence of such missile proggramme. hence no govt official has confirmed the prog.

however, people working in DRDL has mutedly confirmed the proggramme. it will be most probably be a three stage ballestic missile.

It wouldnt be in india's interests to test the missile as india will become centre controversy which might result in india not getting dual use technologies for future projects. how ever it is learnt that missile may be tested with reduced ranges and tests will be carried out under name of different missile like agni 3.
 
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Read this...

Surya-1 and 2
Country: India
Class: ICBM
Basing: Surface based
Length: 40.00 m
Diameter: Unknown m
Launch Weight: 80000 kg
Propulsion: First/second stage solid, third liquid
Range: 8000/12000 km
Status: Unknown
Details
Assuming that the Surya missile exists at all, it is probably an intercontinental-range, surface-based, solid and liquid-propellant ballistic missile. Reports suggest that the missile is currently in development and is based on the civil space launch technologies of the PSLV/GSLV, satellite rocket boosters from the Indian Space Research Organization, programs.

A strategic weapon, the Surya will extend India's nuclear capability to targets within and beyond China. At present, Indian missiles can only hit a limited number of Chinese targets, even after the completion of the Agni-3. However, the development of a true ICBM such as the Surya will make any strategic target within China vulnerable, and decrease India's relative weakness. In this manner, the Surya will provide India with a strong deterrent against future Chinese aggression.


At present, India is believed to be developing two variants, the Surya-1 and the Surya-2. The Surya-1 is reported to be 40 m long and weigh 80,000 kg. It is expected to have a range of 8000 km. The missile is believed to use a three-stage design, with one liquid-propellant and two solid-propellant stages. As the Surya-1 has yet to be developed, its payload and warhead are currently uncertain but reports suggest that the payload will be 2500 kg and employ MIRVs with penetration aids. The Surya-2 will have a longer range of 12000 km, a range which will likely be reached by decreasing the payload.


If the missile is actually in the planning stages, flight tests can be expected by 2015 with the missile entering service around 2020. Indian officials deny that the program exists, however, and the program is probably of a lower priority than development of the Agni 4/5.1
 
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FAKE NEWS AND RUMORS MADE BY STRATEGIC PAGE

Not really, here is a very credible source: fas.org

Surya
At least one source has reported that a 12,000-km range, 80,000-kg weight ballistic missile, designated Surya, is also under development, but no confirmatory reports of such activity have as yet been discovered. (1)

The status of the Surya [Sun] ICBM program is extremely unclear, with some report indicating that the development of this system was initiated in 1994. Conflicting reports regarding the Surya's configuration claim that it will be based on the components of the polar space launch vehicle (PSLV) and the Agni IRBM, and that it will have a range between 8000 and 12,000 kms. (2)

Surya - India Missile Special Weapons Delivery Systems
 
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don't know about Indo-Russia ICBM deal but i know a country in Asia, who not only buy the whole god damn missile but also its paint ,now that's what i called a trick or treat question ................................:coffee::sniper:

why paint?

arent the nerolac good paints in india
 
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why paint?

arent the nerolac good paints in india

Nerolac paint used to paint house ,don't know they are also used in painting missiles ...................;):P btw you can also some buy paint buckets from India....
 
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Don't randomly type crap. This is akin to saying that globalsecurity.org is a 'gossip news agency' :rolleyes:


India: The U.S. Nuclear Deal and Indian ICBMs
June 21, 2007 19 24 GMT

Summary

India reportedly halted development of intercontinental ballistic missiles as a good-faith gesture aimed at facilitating the troubled civilian nuclear deal with the United States, according to an unconfirmed (and as yet not denied) CNN-IBN report June 18. Though the gesture may have appeared magnanimous, intercontinental reach is far down New Delhi's list of priorities.

Analysis

New Delhi appears to have halted -- at least temporarily -- development of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), CNN-IBN reported June 18. The halt appears to be an effort to address Washington's discomfort with the proposed U.S.-Indian bilateral civilian nuclear deal. Though the report has not been confirmed, it also has not been denied.

U.S. concerns, however, have nothing at all to do with Indian ICBMs. India has only moderate interest in such a capability, since its most pressing international concerns are hardly at intercontinental distances. As such, India's need for ICBMs -- especially in the near term -- is quite limited.

Pakistan

Ultimately, India is fairly geographically secure. Oceans and mountains constitute the bulk of New Delhi's border. The Himalayas provide a nearly impenetrable barrier to meaningful military confrontation with China. Pakistan, which along with Afghanistan occupies the Hindu Kush to the northwest, is the only real power within India's immediate geographic zone.

The Indo-Pakistani rivalry has been well entrenched since 1948 -- but Indian strategic missiles are well-suited to deal with that threat. Moreover, the nuclear balance between the two has matured to the point that it now injects an element of stability and restraint into the rivalry. An ICBM has almost no relevance to a direct confrontation with Pakistan. The 3,000-kilometer (about 1,800 miles) distance from Bangalore in southern India to the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, in northern Pakistan is probably approaching the minimum range of a true ICBM.

Thus, unlike the intercontinental ranges of the U.S.-Russian Cold War rivalry, the Indo-Pakistani rivalry is not a long-distance rivalry. The medium-range Agni II, the longest-range ballistic missile yet deployed by the Indian military, already allows India to cover the entirety of Pakistan from nearly anywhere in India.

China

The Sino-Indian balance, however, is another story. With the Himalayas as a geographic buffer, neither country represents an imminent strategic threat to the other. And neither has much interest in any sort of arms race, since both have far better things to worry about.

This is where the Agni III intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) comes in. A successful test in April followed a serious stumble in 2006, when a failure with the first-stage exhaust nozzle destroyed the test mission in the first minute of flight. It took nearly a year to retool and test a second missile. The Agni III gives New Delhi the ability to target Beijing, though this is not something New Delhi is in any particular hurry to do given the two countries' distracted bilateral relationship.

Beijing, by contrast, already can target all of India with most of its strategic arsenal. With another major power so close by, New Delhi could only consider it prudent to establish a basic counterbalance. Given the state of the two countries' current relations, such a counterbalance could be more than sufficiently accomplished with a small force of Agni III missiles.
Other Motivators for India

This is not to say India does not want an ICBM capability; who would not? But just like anyone else, India has priorities -- with establishing the military capability to obliterate Pakistan ranking near the top. Achieving a basic parity with China also is important. But for the immediate future, the importance of the nuclear deal with Washington ranks far above its desire for intercontinental reach.

While an ICBM is indeed within India's grasp, the nation's missile programs reflect that this is not a top priority
. Development of the Surya ICBM has been rumored for more than a decade without tangible results. This is despite continued progress with the indigenous geostationary and polar orbit satellite launch vehicles on which the Surya theoretically is based. (Ultimately, the distinction between a satellite launch vehicle and an ICBM comes down to payload.) What is more, India is poised to become only the sixth country in the world to field a cryogenic upper stage, a particularly complex technology. So if it were a real priority, the Surya would surely be further along.
On the other hand, few things are more important to India right now than maintaining control over its own nuclear fuel cycle (and thus retaining the ability to extract its own weapons-grade plutonium for military purposes). This has been a contentious issue in the nuclear negotiations with the United States. India's defense establishment is extremely wary of the conditions the United States wants to place on India before the civilian nuclear deal can pass, and New Delhi is offering very little leeway on any concessions that would set India back militarily. Before the announcement of the Indian ICBM halt, the Indian Cabinet ratified an amendment June 15 to the International Atomic Energy Agency convention providing for protection of nuclear material from acts of terror and sabotage. This was another key U.S. demand for India (a nonsignatory of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty) to facilitate the ongoing negotiations.

In essence, the apparent sacrifice of the ICBM program is nothing more than a low-cost way for India to promote itself as a responsible nuclear player deserving of the civilian nuclear agreement with the United States. India can certainly stand to take a missile program essentially already on the back burner off the stove for a little while. But with the continued development of the Agni III IRBM and launches of its geostationary and polar satellite launch vehicles, India will continue to progress in this direction regardless.

Bharat Rakshak • View topic - India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 9th

i usually refrain myself to talk to kiddos and sissy guys but you prompt me to say some thing hmmmmmmmmmm................
 
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Maybe India wants to develop these missiles. But it wont be necessary in near decade. What is required is India to master MIRV and Kill Vehicle tech and work on agni 3/5 and SLBMs with 5-6k range.
 
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Do you even know what I'm talking about? I was pointing to this idiotic statement of yours:

FAKE NEWS AGAIN ............. FAS.ORG is just gossip news agency..


FAS is the organization which made the connection between France and Israel's nuclear weapons program. It is widely respected and is highly credible source

The Federation of American Scientists (FAS) is an "organization founded in 1945 as the Federation of Atomic Scientists," its website states. FAS "founders were members of the Manhattan Project, creators of the atom bomb and deeply concerned about the implications of its use for the future of humankind.

"Known in its early years as the 'scientists lobby,' FAS combines the scholarly resources of its member scientists and informed citizens with knowledge of practical politics. Endorsed by the nearly 60 Nobel Laureates in biology, chemistry, economics, medicine, and physics as sponsors, FAS is uniquely qualified to bring the scientific perspective to public policy. FAS' strategies include advocacy, briefings with policy makers and the press, public education and outreach, collaboration with civil rights, human rights, and arms control groups, and grassroots organizing. [1]"

Federation of American Scientists - SourceWatch

Think before spouting random nonsense.
 
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Do you even know what I'm talking about? I was pointing to this idiotic statement of yours:




FAS is the organization which made the connection between France and Israel's nuclear weapons program. It is widely respected and is highly credible source



Federation of American Scientists - SourceWatch

Think before spouting random nonsense.

check the link here again and read the whole article kid ,just keep it cool ................
 
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