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NGOs demand independent inquiry into Ahmedabad blasts

* Groups claim bombs recovered in Surat traced to govt factory in Dholpur
* Say police only crack down on Muslims after every incident of terrorism

By Iftikhar Gilani

NEW DELHI: A group of Indian NGOs on Monday demanded an independent inquiry by a judicial commission into the recent bomb blasts in Ahmedabad and the discovery of a series of bombs in Surat, another city of the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party- (BJP) led state of Gujarat.
The groups claim the bombs recovered in Surat had been traced to a government factory in Dholpur in Rajasthan, another BJP-ruled state, and the ammonium nitrate trail to Nagpur, where the ultra-nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) headquarters is located. Shabnam Hashmi, the chief of an NGO, Anhad, who organised the press conference, said all participating NGOs had condemned the terrorist attacks, but added that the mystery of how not a single bomb had exploded in Surat had warranted them to demand an inquiry.
Dr Asghar Ali, the chief of another NGO, the All-India Secular Forum, said the fact that police had used cranes to remove bombs planted on top of a tree and behind a hoarding made one wonder if the alleged terrorists had used similar cranes to plant the bombs there in the first place.

Crack down on Muslims:

Ali and Shabnam also expressed concern that police only cracked down on Muslims after every incident of terrorism, rounding up mostly the innocent and torturing them without solving the case.
They said it was not for the first time that bombs had been used to cause such large-scale destruction in Ahmedabad, adding that similar bombs had also been used in the 2002 riots to blow up mosques, Dargahs and Muslim residences. “Who had made these bombs? Certainly not the Muslims who are being accused,” they said.
Shabnam alleged that many people who came forward to depose before the public hearing conducted into the Gujarat massacre and other riots were being targeted by authorities to make them desist from raising voice against any further atrocities by police and security forces. She claimed that even some human rights activists had been targeted and put in jail.
In their joint statement, the NGOs asked, "Is it not too much of a coincidence that Surat bomb detonators have been traced to a government factory in Dholpur in Rajasthan, a BJP-ruled state, and the ammonium nitrate trail to Nagpur, where the RSS headquarters is situated?"
Moreover, they noted that it was not the Surat police or any crime detection agency, but locals who had found a total of 27 live bombs in Surat. They also demanded suspension of Ahmedabad's police commissioner, who had targeted journalists by registering sedition cases against them and had failed in preventing the terror attacks.
Digant Oza from the People's Movement of India, Lajja Shankar Hardenia, the editor of Secular Democracy, and Jyotsna Shukla from the Quomi Ekta Samiti also addressed the press conference.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
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Here's another source on this news:

Surat bomb detonators traced to govt factory in Dholpur -Ahmedabad-Cities-The Times of India


Noteworthy points:
1) Investigators say the terror outfits may have procured these detonators from mining companies, who engage a large number of contractors, especially in stone quarrying, a big business in Rajasthan.

2) Set up 20 years ago as a joint-sector company in association with RIICO, a Rajasthan government undertaking , RECL makes more than 25 lakh detonators every month. The integrated circuit detonators are supplied to mines to trigger explosions mostly for stone quarrying and coal mining.

4) Although authorities claim to take precautions, irregularities in the mining sector, mainly in licensing process, renewal of licenses and violation of limit fixed on mining are often reported.

3) This is not the first time that terrorists have used RECL detonators. Police found them in the 1998 Coimbatore blasts during a rally addressed by BJP leader L K Advani.

Stop masking the recent attacks as an anti-Muslim conspiracy.
 
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NGOs demand independent inquiry into Ahmedabad blasts

* Groups claim bombs recovered in Surat traced to govt factory in Dholpur
* Say police only crack down on Muslims after every incident of terrorism

By Iftikhar Gilani

NEW DELHI: A group of Indian NGOs on Monday demanded an independent inquiry by a judicial commission into the recent bomb blasts in Ahmedabad and the discovery of a series of bombs in Surat, another city of the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party- (BJP) led state of Gujarat.
The groups claim the bombs recovered in Surat had been traced to a government factory in Dholpur in Rajasthan, another BJP-ruled state, and the ammonium nitrate trail to Nagpur, where the ultra-nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) headquarters is located. Shabnam Hashmi, the chief of an NGO, Anhad, who organised the press conference, said all participating NGOs had condemned the terrorist attacks, but added that the mystery of how not a single bomb had exploded in Surat had warranted them to demand an inquiry.
Dr Asghar Ali, the chief of another NGO, the All-India Secular Forum, said the fact that police had used cranes to remove bombs planted on top of a tree and behind a hoarding made one wonder if the alleged terrorists had used similar cranes to plant the bombs there in the first place.

Crack down on Muslims:

Ali and Shabnam also expressed concern that police only cracked down on Muslims after every incident of terrorism, rounding up mostly the innocent and torturing them without solving the case.
They said it was not for the first time that bombs had been used to cause such large-scale destruction in Ahmedabad, adding that similar bombs had also been used in the 2002 riots to blow up mosques, Dargahs and Muslim residences. &#8220;Who had made these bombs? Certainly not the Muslims who are being accused,&#8221; they said.
Shabnam alleged that many people who came forward to depose before the public hearing conducted into the Gujarat massacre and other riots were being targeted by authorities to make them desist from raising voice against any further atrocities by police and security forces. She claimed that even some human rights activists had been targeted and put in jail.
In their joint statement, the NGOs asked, "Is it not too much of a coincidence that Surat bomb detonators have been traced to a government factory in Dholpur in Rajasthan, a BJP-ruled state, and the ammonium nitrate trail to Nagpur, where the RSS headquarters is situated?"
Moreover, they noted that it was not the Surat police or any crime detection agency, but locals who had found a total of 27 live bombs in Surat. They also demanded suspension of Ahmedabad's police commissioner, who had targeted journalists by registering sedition cases against them and had failed in preventing the terror attacks.
Digant Oza from the People's Movement of India, Lajja Shankar Hardenia, the editor of Secular Democracy, and Jyotsna Shukla from the Quomi Ekta Samiti also addressed the press conference.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Muslims are being used as the scape goat and to play dirty politics, nothing new here, but the real face of India's secularism. Muslims of India need to realize this because no Muhammad bin Qasim is coming for help, they need to wake up and take a stand for themselves.
 
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Yeah...the Hin-jew-ians are conspiring to eliminate Islam. :rolleyes:

a.k.a the standard viewpoint of an Islamic fundamentalist.
 
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Yeah...the Hin-jew-ians are conspiring to eliminate Islam. :rolleyes:

a.k.a the standard viewpoint of an Islamic fundamentalist.

The interesting part of this is the suggestion that the bombs were domestically procured.

Suggestion of communal targeting, after the Gujrat riots and the history of communal tension in India, is not entirely out of place.

Suggestions of 'official involvement', again, after the suspicions around Modi's role in Gujrat, are also not entirely out of place.
 
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Its the Article that makes the allegation, and the Muslim NGO's, not Dabong.

I can post twenty things speaking otherwise which I know are biased.

Dabong1's non-comment posture implies he believes that the article is right, hence the statement.
 
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The interesting part of this is the suggestion that the bombs were domestically procured.

Suggestion of communal targeting, after the Gujrat riots and the history of communal tension in India, is not entirely out of place.

Suggestions of 'official involvement', again, after the suspicions around Modi's role in Gujrat, are also not entirely out of place.

Let us suppose for the sake of discussion that the Gujarat government organized the bombings.

1.This is the most inopportune time to explode bombs. The State elections have just ended and voters were looking forward to a safe and terror-free term from the BJP.

2. Where are the riots? What's the point of a false-flag operation if there are no riots?

Now, let us suppose for the sake of discussion that the BJP organized the bombings at a national level.

1. Why target their own states? Won't it simply make the BJP government look bad (it already has) , especially since they claim to be tough on terror?

2. Why target the constituencies of national politicians? For example, Modi's own constituency was targeted, indicating, well, that his own constituency is insecure.
 
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Let us suppose for the sake of discussion that the Gujarat government organized the bombings.

1.This is the most inopportune time to explode bombs. The State elections have just ended and voters were looking forward to a safe and terror-free term from the BJP.

2. Where are the riots? What's the point of a false-flag operation if there are no riots?

Now, let us suppose for the sake of discussion that the BJP organized the bombings at a national level.

1. Why target their own states? Won't it simply make the BJP government look bad (it already has) , especially since they claim to be tough on terror?

2. Why target the constituencies of national politicians? For example, Modi's own constituency was targeted, indicating, well, that his own constituency is insecure.

I am not suggesting that XYZ did it - what I am saying is that the accusations made are not out of place given the history of communal tension in India, and suspicions of prior 'official involvement', and it was a response to your sarcastic and flippant dismissal of the allegations.
 
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I am not suggesting that XYZ did it - what I am saying is that the accusations made are not out of place given the history of communal tension in India, and suspicions of prior 'official involvement', and it was a response to your sarcastic and flippant dismissal of the allegations.

I don't care what you have to say....I can smell the air and the direction in which this thread is heading.

Some allegations deserve short-shrift.
 
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Yeah...the Hin-jew-ians are conspiring to eliminate Islam. :rolleyes:

a.k.a the standard viewpoint of an Islamic fundamentalist.

And there is no such thing as Hindu fundamentalist, as I clearly recall reading history it was Hindu fundamentalist who murdered Ghandi and burned the Babri Mosque, I think it would be best that we debate this article instead of giving it religious colours.
 
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I don't care what you have to say....I can smell the air and the direction in which this thread is heading.

Some allegations deserve short-shrift.

The allegation's were raised by your compatriots - you need to 'smell the air' in India first.

Don't blow a fuse over this, we have to deal with similar 'fishy motivations' when threads and comments on 'Chemical weapons used on the Baluch', and 'Pashtunistan freedom movement' are made.
 
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Ammonium nitrate is widely used in fertilizers its mostly public sector units which make Ammonium nitrate, it is very difficult to keep track of it.

more information on Ammonium nitrate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_nitrate)
 
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Its the Article that makes the allegation, and the Muslim NGO's, not Dabong.


Of course Dabong is merely pasting a report and he has nothing to add as comment. Very neutral! Wink! wink!

AM, do you really think that people of the PFF and village idiots? You are the Bossman and so I will accept that all here are village idiots!

Unlike what Jana may feel on Indian secularism, govt jobs are open to all and indeed all are there.

So, anyone, irrespective of religion, can have access to anything!

For those who may not know, the Deputy Chief of the Army is a person who is of the Islamic faith. I know him and he is a damn fine Indian. He is proud to be of Islamic faith and even prouder to be an Indian.

Heard Omar Abdullah during the debate on the Trust vote, Jana?
 
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Of course Dabong is merely pasting a report and he has nothing to add as comment. Very neutral! Wink! wink!

AM, do you really think that people of the PFF and village idiots? You are the Bossman and so I will accept that all here are village idiots!

Unlike what Jana may feel on Indian secularism, govt jobs are open to all and indeed all are there.

So, anyone, irrespective of religion, can have access to anything!

For those who may not know, the Deputy Chief of the Army is a person who is of the Islamic faith. I know him and he is a damn fine Indian. He is proud to be of Islamic faith and even prouder to be an Indian.

Heard Omar Abdullah during the debate on the Trust vote, Jana?

Salim,

Many articles will have content that is prejudicial to one side or the other - however there is little point in questioning the motivations of the poster. The issues raised in the article need to be addressed, not the motivations of whoever posted it.

Stealth, after his initial post, did attempt to do just that, and that is the sort of discourse that enhances peoples understanding of events and issues.

If Dabong had posted his own comments, and you disagreed, have at him.

That is all I was getting at.

Following your logic, we should refuse to allow any non-Pakistani to post any thing negative about Pakistan (whatever negative is interpreted to be), and the same for non-Indians posting about India - since 'motivations' will always be suspect.
 
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