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Suppose 2030 China will reach the same level with US, Now What? Can China imagine new Technology?

Read some history, even Wiki source.

I've read history since i was a child, as my mother was a history professor in one of the most prestigious universities in Vietnam and normally i find myself surprised to see people so ignorant about basic knowledge.

One example: vaccine. There were other hundreds, if not thousands, which were brought to the West, mostly by the Mongols, then developed there and claimed by the West as their own inventions. (Not totally my idea, but by Nguyen Hien Le in his book "History of China")

Have you ever read Shiji (or the Grand of historical records) by Sima Qian in 2nd century BC, which set the standard for historical record worldwide. If you have not, stop discussing. There are many version of Shiji in Vietnam, translated and explained by various authors. Three versions are in my bookself.
You misunderstood my post. The history of Chinese inventions is well known, I simply challenge your assertion that 'A lot of great inventions normally thought of as Western have the root from China'. Everybody knows who invented paper, gunpowder, the compass etc. So what is 'a lot'? You place far too much weight on your statement, its framed in such a way as to suggest Chinese invented everything.

You entered this discussion with an ignorant statement about western inventions, how much have you read about the industrial revolution in the west for example?

And what about my earlier question, what are these great inventions that are normally thought of as western that have chinese origins? Keeping in mind people are not normally as ignorant as you might think.
 
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Let us see if they can stay away from 'Chinese physics'.
 
We Chinese hope that when the winner of the competition between the two countries is determined. Americans are willing to work with the Chinese people to maintain the order of the world, and sincerely cooperate in the field of aviation and aerospace, so as to shoulder our due responsibilities for the future of human civilization.

Human civilization is still bound by gravity, and we are still just a group of two legged insects imprisoned on the blue planet. We should cooperate, not hurt each other.
There shouldn't be competition in the sense of animosity in the first place. The world has plenty to gain through cooperation and the bigger a country's role(population, GDP, power, etc) in the world the more responsibility they have to better the world. Imagine powerful/rich countries pouring in billions to fund things like space exploration, or fusion reactor research, ways to mitigate climate change, further improvement of photovoltaic cells and making them cheaper, making batteries/EVs/chips cheaper...and so on.
 
well give China a chance and see where it goes
Precedent guides me otherwise. I think a multipolar world will be a good thing for developing countries, but the question that arise is whether " The alternate pole " will follow on the footsteps of the old or will it change. Secondly, in the U.S atleast U.S citizens have the right to question and protest against their foreign policy. The Chinese people may not enjoy that luxury. So in case of foreign atrocities, while you may be able divide the deep state and citizens in western powers, This is not the case for the Chinese.
 
Let us not give credit to the modern Chinese era of innovation and discovery. In the tradition of the great inventions of ancient China; the Compass, Gunpowder, Papermaking and Printing, we are now truly in a new golden age of China scientific research.

Behold, the four great modern China inventions;

Dockless shared bicycles
High-speed rail
Electronic payment system
E--commerce


China's 'four great new inventions' in modern times

As reported widely (word for word) by non-state owned media Xinhua, China Daily, China travel.com and other impartial and independantly owned and operated Chinese media outlets.

Four truly pioneering China inventions that were absolutely, most definitely created first in China. Any resemblance to previously created foreign versions is purely co-incidental, such as Japan's Shinkansen or bullet train in 1964, Finlands Telekom electronic payment system from 1997, Amazon and e-bay in 1995 or Copenhagens bike sharing netwrok from the 90's.

What China claims to have invented​

Golf, football—you name it​

China 1, Britain 0

Dec 20th 2016 | XI’AN

EIGHT is a lucky number in China. How fortunate it was, then, that a team of more than 100 scientists was able, after three years of research, to declare that ancient Chinese had achieved no fewer than 88 scientific breakthroughs and engineering feats of global significance. Their catalogue of more than 200 pages, released in June, was hailed as a major publishing achievement.
All Chinese schoolchildren can name their country’s “four great inventions”: paper, printing, the compass and gunpowder. Now it appears they have a lot more homework to do. The study purports to prove that China was first with many other marvels, including the decimal system, rockets, pinhole imaging, rice and wheat cultivation, the crossbow and the stirrup.
It is no coincidence that the project, led by the prestigious Chinese Academy of Sciences, got under way a few months after Xi Jinping took over as China’s leader in 2012. Mr Xi has been trying to focus public attention on the glories of China’s past as a way to instil patriotism and provide a suitable historical backdrop for his campaign to fulfil “the Chinese dream of the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation”.
Mr Xi is building on a long tradition among the Communist Party’s propagandists of claiming world firsts. “China invented Lassie,” ran a headline in Global Times, a party-controlled newspaper, about dogs being domesticated in China 16,000 years ago (another group of scientists reckon China first did this 33,000 years ago). In 2006 official media shocked the Scots with an assertion that China invented golf a millennium ago, hundreds of years before the game took off in Scotland.
As a lover of football, Mr Xi likes drawing attention to China’s pioneering of that sport, too. On a visit to Britain in 2015 he stopped at one of the country’s most famous football clubs, Manchester City. There he was presented with a copy of the first rules for the modern game (drawn up by an Englishman in 1863). In return, he handed over a copper representation of a figure playing cuju, a sport similar to football invented by China 2,000 years ago (see picture, from a football museum in Shandong province). It was apparently popular both among urban youths and as a form of military fitness training. Mr Xi would like a great rejuvenation of this, too. In 2014 he announced plans to put football on the national curriculum. The aim is to make China a “first-class power” in football by 2050 (it has a long way to go).
The growing attention that China pays to its ancient achievements, real and exaggerated, contrasts with the almost total rejection of them by Mao Zedong after he seized power in 1949. In Mao’s China history was not something to celebrate. A central aim of his Cultural Revolution was to attack the “four olds”: customs, culture, habits and ideas. Many Chinese dynasties destroyed some glories of the previous one, but the Communists took this to new extremes. Across the country state-sponsored vandals destroyed temples, mansions, city walls, scenic sites, paintings, calligraphy and other artefacts.
That began to change after Mao died in 1976. Now Mr Xi claims that Chinese civilisation “has developed in an unbroken line from ancient to modern times”. He glosses over not just the chaos and destruction of the Mao era but the long centuries when the geographical area now called China was divided into many parts, and even run by foreign powers (Manchu and Mongol).
The party also wants to use ancient prowess to boost China’s image abroad and to counter widespread (and often unfair) impressions in the West that the country is better at copying others’ ideas than coming up with its own. The four great inventions were one of the main themes at the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games in Beijing in 2008, an event that China saw as its global coming-out party after decades of being treated with suspicion and contempt by foreign powers.
Envy of the West’s rapid gains in technology since the 19th century has been a catalyst of Chinese nationalism for over 100 years. It fuels a cultural competitiveness in China that turns ancient history into a battleground. This was evident in China’s prickly response to a recent documentary made by the BBC and National Geographic, which suggested that China’s famous terracotta warriors in Xi’an showed Greek influence. Some people interpreted this as a slight. One Chinese archaeologist dismissed the theory as “dishonest” and having “no basis”; another said that foreign hands could not have sculpted the figures because “no Greek names” were inscribed on their backs. Likewise in 2008 Boris Johnson, then mayor of London, was derided for saying that table tennis originated not in China but on Victorian dining tables and was known as whiff-whaff.

Just a slight inconsistency​

The publication of the 88 achievements, however, has drawn attention again to an enduring mystery: why, after a long record of remarkable attainment in technology, did Chinese innovations largely cease for the 500 years or so leading up to the collapse of the last imperial dynasty in 1911? As state media observed, few of the inventions on the new list belong to this period. This puzzle is often referred to as the “Needham question”, after a British scientist and Sinologist, Joseph Needham. (It was he, in his study of China’s ancient science in the 1950s, who first identified the four great inventions—before then most people thought they had emerged in the West.) A member of the team that produced the list said the question deserved “deep reflection” and would be a topic of future research.
Mr Xi skates over this. He lauds Zheng He, a eunuch who launched maritime voyages from China across the Indian Ocean from 1405, as one of China’s great innovators—an early proponent of a vision of China that Mr Xi would like to recreate: prosperous, outward-looking and technologically advanced (the admiral’s massive boat is number 88 on the list). Yet he fails to point out that soon after Zheng He’s explorations China turned inward, beginning its half-millennium of stagnation.
In this 15th-century turning point, reformists in China see an obvious answer to Needham’s question: isolation from the rest of the world is bad for innovation. They take heart in China’s efforts since the 1970s to re-engage with the West, but lament the barriers that remain. With luck, it will not take 100 state-sponsored Chinese scientists another three years to reach the same conclusion.

What china claims to have invented
 
Can China dream of unknown, impossible Technology like US had done for humanity for the last 100 years?
Of course like the printing which made Europe advanced was invented in China and the gunpowder which made Europe superpower was invented in China and the sailing tactics that discovered the world before the Europeans was invented by the Chinese.
 
Can China dream of unknown, impossible Technology like US had done for humanity for the last 100 years?

No, I guess.

It's culturally and systematically different.

Just look at Japan, the Japanese just knows how to improve someone else inventions rather than inventing world-changing thing on their own.

And that makes them stuck because they cannot move forward to the next development step.

China is no different than Japan, except China is still poorer and developing, so there's an illusion of progress and moving forward.
 
No, I guess.

It's culturally and systematically different.

Just look at Japan, the Japanese just knows how to improve someone else inventions rather than inventing world-changing thing on their own.

And that makes them stuck because they cannot move forward to the next development step.

China is no different than Japan, except China is still poorer and developing, so there's an illusion of progress and moving forward.
NAND memory was invented by Toshiba.
 

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