Support Kurdish Peshmerga as ‘bulwark against Islamists’ – MPs

[Syrian Lion]

Yes, there is. Of course to a certain limit but that will always be the case because we can't have as many different visions and views as there are people in a country for instance. Imagine China with 1.3 billion different visions?

Anyway universal democratic rights is also something that the Arab people deserve whether they live in KSA or Libya. Why are those rights being denied to us? Why do some of us even not support such rights? I do not understand it. This is why you have blind regime supporters in the Arab world and sectarian retards. They are afraid of pluralism. Afraid of being countered and afraid of their long-held beliefs being challenged. They don't like this. It's either my highway or no highway. You know this.

Parts of Northern KSA belong to the Levant historically. Those borders were drawn arbitrary. There is no difference between Northern KSA and Eastern Syria for instance. Just saying.

Economic, political, military etc. support is unity enough. It does not need to be formal and in any case should different regions of the Arab world unite it would most likely be a federal system like the EU. How anybody can be against this I do not understand.

Look at the GCC. Everybody in the GCC supports it almost. Nothing but positives. Who in their right mind would not support it? Unity is strength.

Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan hell even Syria (without disrespect) can't make much of a difference on their own. You cannot prevent Israel, Turkey or other regional powers from bullying should they want to do that.

Anyway let people in those countries decide on their own. This is just my opinion and personally I hope that the Arabian Peninsula will become one country one day but the world powers will not allow this I believe for obvious reasons. Nor even the rulers because they love their thrones so much.

Anyway the Arab world has been blessed with amble of resources, land, people, wealth, strategic location etc. Basically everything. If we solved our own mess there would be no need for any outsiders.

I already told you why there will never be Arab unity, last time someone proposed united economy and currency NATO destroyed his country, and with Syria where it had always proposed united Arab economy and military, guess who refused??
even gcc is not united, they are not even allowed to create common currency among themselves..
the only way for Arabs unity is to abandon the west policy in the region.. look at what is going on the region, Arabs are killing themselves..

once people understand that if the west is allowed to intervene in our Arab world there will never be any initiative for unity.. and those countries that call for Arab unity are being invaded and destroyed by the west...

 

[Al-Kurdi]

of course, Israel wants to install its own state inside the Arab world, the so called kurdistan is Israel's wet dream... of course the west want to arm Kurds, for Israel

The struggle for a Kurdish state started 50+years before Israel even became a state. I would like to see Israel assist Peshmerga or YPG but I haven't seen any sign of that. I mean publicly it would be a suicide but perhaps they have. But like helping Peshmerga on refurbishing their old T-55 like how they helped Slovenia when they captured some 50 yugoslavian T-55 during the war, they did an amazing job modernising them. The biggest loser of a Kurdish state is Iran therefore they like to go bullshitting to others. let them bark, their time will come.

Anyway Israelis knows their thing

Note: I am talking about now, not when they helped Peshmerga, Mustafa Barzani in the 60's when Iraq was at war with them saving hafez from annihilation and not early 2000 where Israeli commandos were seen training Peshmerga.

 

[rmi5]

@Quantifier Which part of Kurdistan you are from?
Anyway, independence of Iraqi Kurdistan, means more chance of disintegration of Iran, and higher chance of liberation of Southern Azerbaijan from Iran. So, I count that as a positive, as long as it does not affect Turkey's situation. As far as Tuekey is concerned, I think Erdogan is fine with it, as long as the government will be in the hands of good Kurds, aka Barazani, and not bad Kurds, like Talebani, and PKK supporters.

 

[Serpentine]

Anyway, independence of Iraqi Kurdistan, means more chance of disintegration of Iran, and higher chance of liberation of Southern Azerbaijan from Iran. So, I count that as a positive, as long as it does not affect Turkey's situation. As far as Tuekey is concerned, I think Erdogan is fine with it, as long as the government will be in the hands of good Kurds, aka Barazani, and not bad Kurds, like Talebani, and PKK supporters.

Lol at this hypocrisy. Don't hold your breath, an independent Kurdistan requires a huge chunk of Turkey before it needs Iran's Kurdistan. So, be happy with that wet dream.

Btw, aren't you the same one who always calls Kurds as cavemen, mountain Turks and uncivilized people? Now what happened? Seems dramatic changes in mood and orientation isn't something you are unfamiliar with at all.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Lol at this hypocrisy. Don't hold your breath, an independent Kurdistan requires a huge chunk of Turkey before it needs Iran's Kurdistan. So, be happy with that wet dream.

Btw, aren't you the same one who always calls Kurds as cavemen, mountain Turks and uncivilized people? Now what happened? Seems dramatic changes in mood and orientation isn't something you are unfamiliar with at all.

Israel and USA are making Sunni and Shia clash eachother in order to pave the way for Kurds.

Turkey will suffer from separatism but Iran and Lebanon will suffer from stupidity.

 

[rmi5]

Lol at this hypocrisy. Don't hold your breath, an independent Kurdistan requires a huge chunk of Turkey before it needs Iran's Kurdistan. So, be happy with that wet dream.

Btw, aren't you the same one who always calls Kurds as cavemen, mountain Turks and uncivilized people? Now what happened? Seems dramatic changes in mood and orientation isn't something you are unfamiliar with at all.

A big chunk of non-sense as typical. I know where is your *** burning from. As your dear AhmadiNejad said, pour the water where it burns, aka your ***, don't pour it elsewhere Removal of those bastard IRGC, Hezballat goons, has made this week a blessed one for me, and I am literally enjoying removal of you goons from the face of this planet Your non-senses cannot change it either

When did I call Kurds as mountain Turks? Anyway, don't worry about Turkey, Turks know how to deal with their internal affairs, and don't need a farsi's diarrhea.

 

[Serpentine]

Israel and USA are making Sunni and Shia clash eachother in order to pave the way for Kurds.

Turkey will suffer from separatism but Iran and Lebanon will suffer from stupidity.

Given the current Erdogan's policy in arming 'Sunni freedom fighters against evil Shias and Alawites' it's obvious who is suffering from stupidity.

An independent Kurdistan only in Iraq will certainly hit a wall. I just reminded a fact for those who are in illusions, as expected from any stupid Pan-... ideology. An independent Kurdistan affecting Iran without affecting Turkey is just an illusion.

.... diarrhea.

That's exactly what you wrote, also adding insults to it.

 

[rmi5]

That's exactly what you wrote, also adding insults to it.

Don't worry Farsi mullah, your days are numbered

 

[damm1t]

If Great Britain wants an independent Kurdish state they are free to give away one of their oversea islands... Falkland or South Sandwich islands would fit this task... Kurds will have a state and we get rid of them.. Everybody will be happy

Btw, aren't you the same one who always calls Kurds as cavemen, mountain Turks and uncivilized people?

No one calls them mountain Turks... They are everything but Turks...

 

[haviZsultan]

Personally I have always admired the resilience and independence of the Kurdish people. I believe all Kurds should be united in an ummah.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Personally I have always admired the resilience and independence of the Kurdish people. I believe all Kurds should be united in an ummah.

I have admired the resilience and independence of the Baloch and Pashton people. I believe they should gain their independence as well as a chair in the international ummah community. How about that?

 

[haviZsultan]

KSA has no problem with KRG or Kuds and what kind of problem can Southern Iraq cause to KSA? Let's be serious. The answer is close to none.

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KRG is practically already a country of its own. Yet KSA much like the entire Arab world (and region) supports a united Iraq but that does not mean that KSA or other Arab states are necessarily against KRG getting independence de facto. As I wrote then KRG already acts as a independent country on most fronts. Them declaring independence officially would change little. The territory that is disputed between KRG and Baghdad is something that Iraqi Sunni Arabs and Kurds have to solve. Nobody else is going to do that.

Also there won't be any fights between the people of Southern Iraq and Northern KSA as they are basically one. Sheikh's of major Arab tribes in both regions meet regularly and ties are cordial. Nor will KSA or Iraq ever go to war with each other unless either country is ruled by a crazy ruler.

It would be interesting to know what such a fight would result in, both countries having almost the same population though Saudia may have a military edge.

I have admired the resilience and independence of the Baloch and Pashton people. I believe they should gain their independence as well as a chair in the international ummah community. How about that?

Perfectly fine. In one state they should be though along with the Turks, Iraqis iranians Punjabis, Sindhis and others. The current borders of the known world were made by no one but the west. It was the west which broke the Ottoman empire and tried to erase Turkey's footprint on the world completely. Briton's destroyed the Safavid Empire along with the Russians.

Throughout history when Muslims have divided themselves in small nations they have badly been beaten in war. There has been talk about a united Iran and Iraq but there is little discussion on such topics otherwise.

Personally I believe in greater autonomy for both people, Baloch and Kurdish. Also there is no problem if the various people within our ummah are assertive. Many voices make for a strong country.

Also i have noticed a major difference in the worldview of nations that are based on ethnicity or are amalgamations. Turkey is based on and is named after the Turk ethnic group. Pakistan is different, it was made on the basis of religion.

 

[TurAr]

If it wasn't for their feudal minds and their national sport which is terrorism and vandalism, Kurds are actually one of the most politically active and progressive nations of Middle East I'd say. If only they could stop claiming lands from Turkey, I believe an independent Kurdistan would be a more stable neighbor than Iraq and Syria.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Perfectly fine. In one state they should be though along with the Turks, Iraqis iranians Punjabis, Sindhis and others. The current borders of the known world were made by no one but the west. It was the west which broke the Ottoman empire and tried to erase Turkey's footprint on the world completely. Briton's destroyed the Safavid Empire along with the Russians.

Throughout history when Muslims have divided themselves in small nations they have badly been beaten in war. There has been talk about a united Iran and Iraq but there is little discussion on such topics otherwise.

Personally I believe in greater autonomy for both people, Baloch and Kurdish. Also there is no problem if the various people within our ummah are assertive. Many voices make for a strong country.

Also i have noticed a major difference in the worldview of nations that are based on ethnicity or are amalgamations. Turkey is based on and is named after the Turk ethnic group. Pakistan is different, it was made on the basis of religion.

I was joking. Dont take it seriously. Any sane personality here would not consider an Ummah unity with Arabs and Kurds especially.

With Arabs going ISIS way, And Kurds going Zardosht way, Turks wont bother to be affliated with them.

 

[SALMAN F]

If it wasn't for their feudal minds and their national sport which is terrorism and vandalism, Kurds are actually one of the most politically active and progressive nations of Middle East I'd say. If only they could stop claiming lands from Turkey, I believe an independent Kurdistan would be a more stable neighbor than Iraq and Syria.

You are fool if you believe that they will have state

These donkeys have a fuedal selfish mind each tribe hate each other

And they are many ethnic groups who speak totally different langueges
Even they discuss which langeuge will be the offical if they will have state

The kurds in erbil don't understand the languege of the kurds in dohuk

In Syria despise their small number they have 14 political party

As for claim land from turkey they will always do even when turkey allowed the peshmerga they didnt say the peshmerga passed from turkey to Syria they said from north Kurdistan to west Kurdistan