Sunnis in Iran: How Sunnis live in a Shia country

[raptor22]

This is not true. Iranian Suunis suffered worse under the regime and even they treat other ethnic groups poorly.

Prove it please.

 

[Halimi]

Iran treats its Sunnis perfectly. They are born with silver spoons in their mouths, get everything they demand and their homes are adorned with silk amid a utopia of love, freedom and privilege.

Let's assume it's all true.

So what? You think any of that is relevant? You think Iran wins morality points off something like this? You think there's some kind of foundation for a Sunni-Shi'ite, Arab-Persian kumbaya off this? Really?

Iran is complicit in the mass or systematic murder of Sunni Muslims and their leaders in Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq. And if you think that's a footnote, something that can be brushed over by some 'neutral' journalist (who was stupid enough to blow his agenda eleven minutes into his documentary), then you are well and truly living in a parallel universe and have no sense of what's happening on the Arab street. You have no sense of the magnitude or force of what's happening.

Iran crossed the line amongst the mass of Sunnis in the Levant and Gulf, and irrespective of what anyone else in the world thinks or does, it has opened a wound that will not be sewed shut for generations.

This whole thread and the documentary are utterly irrelevant and don't register a scratch on the register of 'Sunni-Shi'ite' relations in the Middle East right now. Nothing.

 

[beast89]

Iran treats its Sunnis perfectly. They are born with silver spoons in their mouths, get everything they demand and their homes are adorned with silk amid a utopia of love, freedom and privilege.

Let's assume it's all true.

So what? You think any of that is relevant? You think Iran wins morality points off something like this? You think there's some kind of foundation for a Sunni-Shi'ite, Arab-Persian kumbaya off this? Really?

Iran is complicit in the mass or systematic murder of Sunni Muslims and their leaders in Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq. And if you think that's a footnote, something that can be brushed over by some 'neutral' journalist (who was stupid enough to blow his agenda eleven minutes into his documentary), then you are well and truly living in a parallel universe and have no sense of what's happening on the Arab street. You have no sense of the magnitude or force of what's happening.

Iran crossed the line amongst the mass of Sunnis in the Levant and Gulf, and irrespective of what anyone else in the world thinks or does, it has opened a wound that will not be sewed shut for generations.

This whole thread and the documentary are utterly irrelevant and don't register a scratch on the register of 'Sunni-Shi'ite' relations in the Middle East right now. Nothing.

Ask Arab leaders to bomb Syrian Army and see how far that will get you.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

This is not true. Iranian Suunis suffered worse under the regime and even they treat other ethnic groups poorly.

Somali shia suffer more.

 

[IRAN 1802]

Iran treats its Sunnis perfectly. They are born with silver spoons in their mouths, get everything they demand and their homes are adorned with silk amid a utopia of love, freedom and privilege.

Let's assume it's all true.

So what? You think any of that is relevant? You think Iran wins morality points off something like this? You think there's some kind of foundation for a Sunni-Shi'ite, Arab-Persian kumbaya off this? Really?

Iran is complicit in the mass or systematic murder of Sunni Muslims and their leaders in Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq. And if you think that's a footnote, something that can be brushed over by some 'neutral' journalist (who was stupid enough to blow his agenda eleven minutes into his documentary), then you are well and truly living in a parallel universe and have no sense of what's happening on the Arab street. You have no sense of the magnitude or force of what's happening.

Iran crossed the line amongst the mass of Sunnis in the Levant and Gulf, and irrespective of what anyone else in the world thinks or does, it has opened a wound that will not be sewed shut for generations.

This whole thread and the documentary are utterly irrelevant and don't register a scratch on the register of 'Sunni-Shi'ite' relations in the Middle East right now. Nothing.

The backed terrorists from Saudi, Turkey, Qatar, Israel, Jordan and USA murdered people of Syria not a country like Iran. FSA, ISIS and bla bla bullshit terrorists have nothing to do with Iran.

 

[SALMAN F]

Ther is now mosqeu in Iron. The christians and jews are better treated then sunnis,.

It's like your erdogan treat the alevis with respect

 

[Bubblegum Crisis]

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Sunni Muslims banned from holding own Eid prayers in Tehran

Security police block access to houses rented by Sunni minority for worship

Saeed Kamali Dehghan
Wednesday 31 August 2011
18.17 BST

Sunni Muslims in Tehran have been banned from congregating at prayers marking the end of Ramadan.

Iran, a Shia country, ordered its Sunni minority not to hold separate prayers in Tehran for Eid al-Fitr, the Muslim festival that brings the month of fasting to an end. They were instead asked to have a Shia imam leading their prayers – something that is against their religious beliefs.

Hundreds of security police were deployed in the capital to prevent Sunni worshippers from entering houses they rent for religious ceremonies.

In recent decades, Iranian authorities have refused Sunnis permission to build their own mosques in Tehran. There is currently no Sunni mosque in the capital, despite there being several churches and synagogues for much smaller Christian and Jewish populations. .

"Tehran's security police prevented Sunni worshippers from performing Eid prayers in various parts of the capital," the official website of the Sunni community in Iran said. "They surrounded the houses where Sunnis perform prayers and have prevented worshippers from going inside."

Thousands of Shia worshipers on Wednesday stood in rows behind Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who led the crowd at prayers held in Tehran University. The Iranian regime uses Eid prayers to demonstrate that the country's political figures are united behind its leader. Politicians from different groups are supposed to attend the prayers and their absence can be interpreted as a sign of dissent.

Under the Iranian constitution, religious minorities should be respected and should have representatives in parliament. Two days ago, several Sunni MPs wrote a letter to the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, asking for their communities in Tehran to be allowed to hold separate Eid prayers.

Sunnis in Tehran have complained in recent weeks of being told by officials to provide written assurances guaranteeing not to hold Eid prayers in houses in the capital.

Shaikh Abdul-Hameed Esmail Zehi, a Sunni prayer imam in Zahedan, a city in south-east Iran, criticised the regime in a recent sermon for imposing restrictions on Sunnis.

"I would like to request the supreme leader to stop discriminative and illegal steps of some officials, as they have been forbidding Sunni minorities in mega cities of Iran to offer prayers in congregation specially Eidain [the Eids] and Friday prayers. This is the demand of all Sunnis in Iran," he said, in quotes carried by the Sunni community's website, Sunnionline.us.

Iran boasts that its Shia and Sunni populations get along, but Sunnis have complained of a crackdown by the Islamic regime in recent years. The regime, which has blamed Sunnis for recent bombings in south Iran, is at odds with most of the Sunni-ruled countries in the Middle East.

Other religious minorities in Iran have been facing restrictions. Seven leaders of the Bahá'í community are serving 20-year jail sentences. Bahá'ís in Iran are deprived of rights such as education or owning businesses and are often persecuted for their beliefs.

Last week, the Bahá'í community's United Nations office wrote (pdf) to Iran's minister of science and technology, Kamran Daneshjoo, calling on the regime to end discrimination against Bahá'í students who recently had their universities closed.

The Guardian

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Iran: Lift Restrictions on Sunni Worship

Keep Promise to Allow Sunnis Religious Freedom

November 9, 2013

(Beirut) – The Iranian government should follow through on President Hassan Rouhani’s promises to improve access to human rights for religious minorities, Human Rights Watch said today. That should include allowing Sunni Muslims, a minority in Shia-dominated Iran, to gather and pray freely in their own mosques in Tehran and other areas of the country.

Rouhani’s special adviser on ethnic and religious minorities recently met with a Sunni leader to discuss the rights of the Sunni minority and work toward removing barriers preventing Sunnis from achieving full equality under the law. The meeting followed incidents in which security forces in Tehran prevented Sunnis from gathering and praying in designated sites to commemorate holy days, Sunni activists told Human Rights Watch. Local activists say that in recent years security forces have restricted Sunnis from praying in mosques during Eid holidays.

“Iran’s Sunnis should be allowed to practice their faith freely, as do their Shia counterparts,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “Ending religious discrimination should be among President Rouhani’s top priorities.”

During the early morning hours of October 16, 2013, dozens of uniformed and plain-clothes security agents surrounded Sadeghiyeh Mosque in northwest Tehran, one of the largest and most important Sunni prayer sites in Tehran province, and prevented Sunni worshipers from entering the building to mark Eid-e Ghorban, the Feast of Sacrifice, a Sunni worshipper and former member of parliament told Human Rights Watch. Sunni activists also reported that security forces prevented worshipers from entering another prayer site, in Saadatabad, in northern Tehran. Worshipers in other parts of the capital apparently entered prayer sites freely and worshiped without hindrance.

Jalal Jalalizadeh, a Tehran resident who represented the northwestern, Kurdish-majority city of Sanandaj in parliament during Mohammad Khatami’s presidency, said that security forces prevented him and other Sunni worshipers from entering Sadeghiyeh Mosque, refusing to give a reason.

The Persian-language site Islah Web, the website of the Gathering to Call and Reform Iran, a Sunni group, reported that on October 15, Tehran police had summoned a board member of Sadeghiyeh Mosque and informed him that Sunnis could not use the site for prayers during Eid-e Ghorban (known as Eid al-Adha in Arab countries). Eid-e Ghorbancommemorates the willingness of the prophet Ibrahim to sacrifice his first-born son, Ismail, as an act of submission to God.

Previously, on August 4, the day after Rouhani took office, local police had summoned another Sadeghiyeh board member, warning him that security forces would not allow Sunni worshippers to conduct Eid-e Fetr prayers there, according to Islah Web and a member of the Gathering to Call and Reform Iran. Eid-e Fetr (known as Eid al-Fitr in Arab countries) is a feast to mark the end of the Ramadan fast.

Sadeghiyeh Mosque board members complained to government officials, who gave verbal assurances that they would inform the local police to lift the restrictions on Sunni worship, Islah Web reported. Yet on August 9, security forces demanded written proof that the prayers had official approval, and ultimately prevented worshippers from entering Sadeghiyeh Mosque and several other places of worship in Tehran and its suburbs on Eid-e Fetr, the website said.

Luqman Sotudeh, a member of the Gathering to Call and Reform Iran who is also on the board of Sadeghiyeh Mosque, told Human Rights Watch that since 2010, local police in Tehran have routinely summoned board members of prayer sites, especially Sadeghiyeh Mosque, to inform them that they would not be allowed to gather and conduct prayers during Eid. Police officers have told the board members that the Tehran Provincial Council ordered the restrictions, and that in at least one case the order allegedly came from the Supreme Council of National Security, Sotudeh said.

Since the founding of the Islamic Republic in 1979, the government has denied Sunnis in Tehran province permission to construct and operate Sunni mosques, according to Sunni activists. More than a decade ago, the Sunni Mosques Affairs Council of Tehran, which operates under the supervision of the Gathering to Call and Reform Iran, helped establish a system of namazkhanehs, or provisional prayer sites, to accommodate Sunni worshippers in Tehran province during Friday prayers and Eid holidays, Sotudeh said.

The council manages 10 namazkhanehs. Only one of these rented sites, just outside of Tehran city, is architecturally a mosque, while the others, including Sadeghiyeh Mosque, are generally rented rooms, halls, and other spaces. Other Sunni groups and independent operators run another 20 or so namazkhanehs in Tehran province, Sotudeh said.

The restrictions on namazkhanehs in recent years have forced some worshipers to perform their Eid prayers at undesignated sites, including people’s homes or other private spaces, another prominent Iranian Sunni activist and cleric, Sheikh Hassan Amini, told Human Rights Watch.

Some government officials have responded to criticism from Sunni activists regarding restrictions on prayer and worship during Eid by saying that mosques in Iran are open to all Muslims regardless of sect. They have called on Sunnis to show their “unity” with their Shia counterparts and join them in prayer, despite significant differences in ritual.

In September, Rouhani appointed a former intelligence minister, Ali Younesi, as his senior adviser on ethnic and religious minorities. In an interview published on the Entekhab website on October 31, Younesi said that his government should do everything in its power to “prevent extremist and pressure groups” from targeting religious minorities, including Iran’s Sunnis.

Although no one keeps exact figures, about 9 percent of Iran’s 75 million people are believed to be Sunni Muslims. In regions where Sunnis constitute the majority, including areas inhabited primarily by ethnic Kurds, Turkmen, and Baluch, Sunnis face fewer restrictions on accessing houses of worship, Iranian Sunni activists told Human Rights Watch.

Sheikh Hassan Amini, a cleric and Sunni leader from the city of Sanandaj in Kurdistan province, said that to his knowledge Eid ceremonies took place without any interference in most Kurdish areas this year. He said that in a few cities, including Bukan in Kurdistan province, security forces prevented some worshipers from conducting Eid ceremonies.

In an August 1 letter to Rouhani, who was then the president-elect, Human Rights Watch said, “Millions of people among Iran’s ethnic and religious minorities are subjected to legal or effective discrimination in their political participation, employment, and the exercise of their social and cultural rights,” and specifically called on Rouhani to lift restrictions faced by Iran’s Sunni population.

Sotudeh told Human Rights Watch that Abdolrahman Pirani, the secretary-general of the Gathering to Call and Reform Iran, who met with Younesi onOctober 29, emerged optimistic that the government would soon lift restrictions on worship for Sunnis in Tehran, and generally improve the situation for Sunnis. During his electoral campaign, Rouhani issued a 10-point statement guaranteeing equal protection of the law to all Iranians, regardless of ethnicity and religion.

Article 12 of Iran’s constitution accords Sunni Muslims “full respect, and their followers are free to act in accordance with their own jurisprudence in performing their religious rites.” Iranian law gives Muslims following the Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki, and Hanbali schools of Sunni Islam “official status in matters pertaining to religious education, affairs of personal status (marriage, divorce, inheritance, and wills) and related litigation in courts of law.”

“Rouhani promises to win the trust of religious minorities, but those promises don’t mean much if security agents are stopping Sunni Muslims from praying in their own mosques,” Whitson said.

Human Rights Watch

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[SALMAN F]

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Sunni Muslims banned from holding own Eid prayers in Tehran

Security police block access to houses rented by Sunni minority for worship

Saeed Kamali Dehghan
Wednesday 31 August 2011
18.17 BST

Sunni Muslims in Tehran have been banned from congregating at prayers marking the end of Ramadan.

Iran, a Shia country, ordered its Sunni minority not to hold separate prayers in Tehran for Eid al-Fitr, the Muslim festival that brings the month of fasting to an end. They were instead asked to have a Shia imam leading their prayers – something that is against their religious beliefs.

Hundreds of security police were deployed in the capital to prevent Sunni worshippers from entering houses they rent for religious ceremonies.

In recent decades, Iranian authorities have refused Sunnis permission to build their own mosques in Tehran. There is currently no Sunni mosque in the capital, despite there being several churches and synagogues for much smaller Christian and Jewish populations. .

"Tehran's security police prevented Sunni worshippers from performing Eid prayers in various parts of the capital," the official website of the Sunni community in Iran said. "They surrounded the houses where Sunnis perform prayers and have prevented worshippers from going inside."

Thousands of Shia worshipers on Wednesday stood in rows behind Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who led the crowd at prayers held in Tehran University. The Iranian regime uses Eid prayers to demonstrate that the country's political figures are united behind its leader. Politicians from different groups are supposed to attend the prayers and their absence can be interpreted as a sign of dissent.

Under the Iranian constitution, religious minorities should be respected and should have representatives in parliament. Two days ago, several Sunni MPs wrote a letter to the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, asking for their communities in Tehran to be allowed to hold separate Eid prayers.

Sunnis in Tehran have complained in recent weeks of being told by officials to provide written assurances guaranteeing not to hold Eid prayers in houses in the capital.

Shaikh Abdul-Hameed Esmail Zehi, a Sunni prayer imam in Zahedan, a city in south-east Iran, criticised the regime in a recent sermon for imposing restrictions on Sunnis.

"I would like to request the supreme leader to stop discriminative and illegal steps of some officials, as they have been forbidding Sunni minorities in mega cities of Iran to offer prayers in congregation specially Eidain [the Eids] and Friday prayers. This is the demand of all Sunnis in Iran," he said, in quotes carried by the Sunni community's website, Sunnionline.us.

Iran boasts that its Shia and Sunni populations get along, but Sunnis have complained of a crackdown by the Islamic regime in recent years. The regime, which has blamed Sunnis for recent bombings in south Iran, is at odds with most of the Sunni-ruled countries in the Middle East.

Other religious minorities in Iran have been facing restrictions. Seven leaders of the Bahá'í community are serving 20-year jail sentences. Bahá'ís in Iran are deprived of rights such as education or owning businesses and are often persecuted for their beliefs.

Last week, the Bahá'í community's United Nations office wrote (pdf) to Iran's minister of science and technology, Kamran Daneshjoo, calling on the regime to end discrimination against Bahá'í students who recently had their universities closed.

The Guardian

...

Quote :

Iran: Lift Restrictions on Sunni Worship

Keep Promise to Allow Sunnis Religious Freedom

November 9, 2013

(Beirut) – The Iranian government should follow through on President Hassan Rouhani’s promises to improve access to human rights for religious minorities, Human Rights Watch said today. That should include allowing Sunni Muslims, a minority in Shia-dominated Iran, to gather and pray freely in their own mosques in Tehran and other areas of the country.

Rouhani’s special adviser on ethnic and religious minorities recently met with a Sunni leader to discuss the rights of the Sunni minority and work toward removing barriers preventing Sunnis from achieving full equality under the law. The meeting followed incidents in which security forces in Tehran prevented Sunnis from gathering and praying in designated sites to commemorate holy days, Sunni activists told Human Rights Watch. Local activists say that in recent years security forces have restricted Sunnis from praying in mosques during Eid holidays.

“Iran’s Sunnis should be allowed to practice their faith freely, as do their Shia counterparts,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “Ending religious discrimination should be among President Rouhani’s top priorities.”

During the early morning hours of October 16, 2013, dozens of uniformed and plain-clothes security agents surrounded Sadeghiyeh Mosque in northwest Tehran, one of the largest and most important Sunni prayer sites in Tehran province, and prevented Sunni worshipers from entering the building to mark Eid-e Ghorban, the Feast of Sacrifice, a Sunni worshipper and former member of parliament told Human Rights Watch. Sunni activists also reported that security forces prevented worshipers from entering another prayer site, in Saadatabad, in northern Tehran. Worshipers in other parts of the capital apparently entered prayer sites freely and worshiped without hindrance.

Jalal Jalalizadeh, a Tehran resident who represented the northwestern, Kurdish-majority city of Sanandaj in parliament during Mohammad Khatami’s presidency, said that security forces prevented him and other Sunni worshipers from entering Sadeghiyeh Mosque, refusing to give a reason.

The Persian-language site Islah Web, the website of the Gathering to Call and Reform Iran, a Sunni group, reported that on October 15, Tehran police had summoned a board member of Sadeghiyeh Mosque and informed him that Sunnis could not use the site for prayers during Eid-e Ghorban (known as Eid al-Adha in Arab countries). Eid-e Ghorbancommemorates the willingness of the prophet Ibrahim to sacrifice his first-born son, Ismail, as an act of submission to God.

Previously, on August 4, the day after Rouhani took office, local police had summoned another Sadeghiyeh board member, warning him that security forces would not allow Sunni worshippers to conduct Eid-e Fetr prayers there, according to Islah Web and a member of the Gathering to Call and Reform Iran. Eid-e Fetr (known as Eid al-Fitr in Arab countries) is a feast to mark the end of the Ramadan fast.

Sadeghiyeh Mosque board members complained to government officials, who gave verbal assurances that they would inform the local police to lift the restrictions on Sunni worship, Islah Web reported. Yet on August 9, security forces demanded written proof that the prayers had official approval, and ultimately prevented worshippers from entering Sadeghiyeh Mosque and several other places of worship in Tehran and its suburbs on Eid-e Fetr, the website said.

Luqman Sotudeh, a member of the Gathering to Call and Reform Iran who is also on the board of Sadeghiyeh Mosque, told Human Rights Watch that since 2010, local police in Tehran have routinely summoned board members of prayer sites, especially Sadeghiyeh Mosque, to inform them that they would not be allowed to gather and conduct prayers during Eid. Police officers have told the board members that the Tehran Provincial Council ordered the restrictions, and that in at least one case the order allegedly came from the Supreme Council of National Security, Sotudeh said.

Since the founding of the Islamic Republic in 1979, the government has denied Sunnis in Tehran province permission to construct and operate Sunni mosques, according to Sunni activists. More than a decade ago, the Sunni Mosques Affairs Council of Tehran, which operates under the supervision of the Gathering to Call and Reform Iran, helped establish a system of namazkhanehs, or provisional prayer sites, to accommodate Sunni worshippers in Tehran province during Friday prayers and Eid holidays, Sotudeh said.

The council manages 10 namazkhanehs. Only one of these rented sites, just outside of Tehran city, is architecturally a mosque, while the others, including Sadeghiyeh Mosque, are generally rented rooms, halls, and other spaces. Other Sunni groups and independent operators run another 20 or so namazkhanehs in Tehran province, Sotudeh said.

The restrictions on namazkhanehs in recent years have forced some worshipers to perform their Eid prayers at undesignated sites, including people’s homes or other private spaces, another prominent Iranian Sunni activist and cleric, Sheikh Hassan Amini, told Human Rights Watch.

Some government officials have responded to criticism from Sunni activists regarding restrictions on prayer and worship during Eid by saying that mosques in Iran are open to all Muslims regardless of sect. They have called on Sunnis to show their “unity” with their Shia counterparts and join them in prayer, despite significant differences in ritual.

In September, Rouhani appointed a former intelligence minister, Ali Younesi, as his senior adviser on ethnic and religious minorities. In an interview published on the Entekhab website on October 31, Younesi said that his government should do everything in its power to “prevent extremist and pressure groups” from targeting religious minorities, including Iran’s Sunnis.

Although no one keeps exact figures, about 9 percent of Iran’s 75 million people are believed to be Sunni Muslims. In regions where Sunnis constitute the majority, including areas inhabited primarily by ethnic Kurds, Turkmen, and Baluch, Sunnis face fewer restrictions on accessing houses of worship, Iranian Sunni activists told Human Rights Watch.

Sheikh Hassan Amini, a cleric and Sunni leader from the city of Sanandaj in Kurdistan province, said that to his knowledge Eid ceremonies took place without any interference in most Kurdish areas this year. He said that in a few cities, including Bukan in Kurdistan province, security forces prevented some worshipers from conducting Eid ceremonies.

In an August 1 letter to Rouhani, who was then the president-elect, Human Rights Watch said, “Millions of people among Iran’s ethnic and religious minorities are subjected to legal or effective discrimination in their political participation, employment, and the exercise of their social and cultural rights,” and specifically called on Rouhani to lift restrictions faced by Iran’s Sunni population.

Sotudeh told Human Rights Watch that Abdolrahman Pirani, the secretary-general of the Gathering to Call and Reform Iran, who met with Younesi onOctober 29, emerged optimistic that the government would soon lift restrictions on worship for Sunnis in Tehran, and generally improve the situation for Sunnis. During his electoral campaign, Rouhani issued a 10-point statement guaranteeing equal protection of the law to all Iranians, regardless of ethnicity and religion.

Article 12 of Iran’s constitution accords Sunni Muslims “full respect, and their followers are free to act in accordance with their own jurisprudence in performing their religious rites.” Iranian law gives Muslims following the Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki, and Hanbali schools of Sunni Islam “official status in matters pertaining to religious education, affairs of personal status (marriage, divorce, inheritance, and wills) and related litigation in courts of law.”

“Rouhani promises to win the trust of religious minorities, but those promises don’t mean much if security agents are stopping Sunni Muslims from praying in their own mosques,” Whitson said.

Human Rights Watch

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It didn't bann them but they told them they can pray together

Do you have problem with sunni shia pray together??!!

 

[monitor]

 

[Al-Kurdi]

biggest load of bull I have ever seen, for real. it's like a visit to north korea, everything is planned. areas to visit, people to speak to etc, what a fucking joke

 

[Basel]

@Falcon29

can not see the video.