Sulaiman al-Tajir, the Persian merchant who traveled to both India & China

[KedarT]

Less population and more kings.

I think everyone wants that "India" back.

Yes.

 

[El Sidd]

No one knows,there are many theories about that.Vedas have mentioned that and by many accounts it's either a dried river in today's Pakistan or Helmand River on top of that exact date of composition of Vedas is unknown,they seem to be ancient than people think.

You can easily identify dried or diverted river beds easily thanks to modern science. New efficient methods and still credible methods like carbon dating is also not a challenge.

Humanity existed without interruption in the region before and after any recorded or observed natural calamity.

 

[KedarT]

Looks like a comparison of Indus valley to Tibet.

On what basis have you arrived at that conclusion? He visited as far as Bengal and Assam apart from Northern India.

 

[Dariush the Great]

These are accounts of Sulaiman al-Tajir, the Persian merchant who traveled to both India & China in the year 850 AD.

Source: https://www.amazon.in/Mohammedan-Travellers-Translated-Illustrations-Inquiries/dp/1140729454



Sulaiman al-Tajir, the Persian merchant who traveled to both India & China sometime in the year 850 CE made some interesting observations on both countries. He starts by saying India is twice the size of China, but not as densely populated.
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He says the chinese had no religious science of their own. Each of their philosophies was borrowed from India. The chinese held Indians as their teachers. (2)

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On differences between how houses were built. Chinese mostly used wood. Indians built houses made of stones, plaster & bricks. (3)

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Regarding personal hygiene. Indians paid high importance to bathing everyday, sometimes several times in a day & also oral hygiene. Indians wouldn't eat without cleaning mouth. Also the Chinese were NOT known to clean up after doing the (4)

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On dietary & praying habits. 1) Rice was the staple diet of both countries.
2) Sulaiman found chinese praying style closer to his own religion
3) Indians grew long facial hair. (5)

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Note: All these were recorded when India was being ruled by 3 great empires. Pratihara, Pala & Rashtrakuta.

Don't use us for your propaganda against China.

 

[Sine Nomine]

When Christopher Columbus sailed out for 'India' in the year 1492, he missed the direction and reached the Americas.
Columbus called the inhabitants of the lands that he visited indios (Spanish for "Indians")

They were always searching for Indus Valley civilisation,something which was as advance as Egyptian civilisation.Early records wrote it Indica,even GoI admits that word India is name of river Indus.

 

[El Sidd]

Don't use us for your propaganda against China.

What has Darius to do with 850AD Sulayman from an Arab province?

Go back to the western theater

 

[KedarT]

Don't use us for your propaganda against China.

Umm...how is stating thoughts of a 9th century Persian equivalent to using Iran for propaganda against China?

 

[Dariush the Great]

What has Darius to do with 850AD Sulayman from an Arab province?

Go back to the western theater

Calm down rambo,

Sulaiman or Soleiman al-Tajir (Arabic for "Soloman the Merchant", Persian: سلیمان تاجر) was a 9th-century Persian Muslim merchant, traveler and writer initially from Siraf in modern-day Iran.



Don't use us Iranians for your anti-China pro American garbage.

 

[KedarT]

Calm down rambo,

Maybe it's you that needs to calm down

 

[Dariush the Great]

Umm...how is stating thoughts of a 9th century Persian equivalent to using Iran for propaganda against China?

You are using Iranians for your propaganda against the nation of China.

 

[KedarT]

You are using Iranians for your propaganda against the nation of China.

How do views of 9th century Persian traveler affect 21st century Iran-China relationship? Will 9th century Sulaiman's views be responsible for breaking of Iran-China relations in 21st century? I hope you are fine.

 

[Dariush the Great]

How do views of 9th century Persian traveler affect 21st century Iran-China relationship? Will 9th century Sulaiman's views be responsible for breaking of Iran-China relations in 21st century? I hope you are fine.

You Indians are pretty funny.. trying everything to discredit your ''enemies''. If you want to spread propaganda it is fine but don't do it in the name of Iranians.

 

[KedarT]

You Indians are pretty funny.. trying everything to discredit your ''enemies''. If you want to spread propaganda it is fine but don't do it in the name of Iranians.

That 9th century traveler happens to be 'Persian'. It's not like he is using him purposely because he is 'Persian'. Understand the difference? And a thread in PDF doesn't affect national policy, got it?

 

[drmeson]

Highly possible that Our Farsi traveler was exploring NW Indian part which is now Southern and Eastern Pakistan.

Also 9th century means that two iranic waves into Indus valley or NW India were rather more fresh. First being IE + BMAC Iranics =Aryan or pure Iranic Sychtians. Both groups went into NW with their genes and provided Indus valley (Iranic Neolithic farmers) civilization with iranic male lineage haplogroups like R1, J2 (prevalent among pakistanis now)

How Interesting!

 

[KedarT]

Whenever you see anywhere "ancient India" described by ancient historians, that means only today's Pakistan,it has nothing to do with modern India mostly.

Wrong, it includes parts of present day India as well as Pakistan.

Highly possible that Our Farsi traveler was exploring NW Indian part which is now Southern and Eastern Pakistan.

Please check comment #18