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Sukhoi PAK FA versus Chengdu J-20: Which Fighter Has the Bigger Punch?
PublishedSeptember 14, 2015 | Byadmin

SOURCE: SPUTNIK

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The US magazine The National Interest, which takes much interest in comparing countries’ military hardware, has chosen a new pair of war machines to compare: Russia’s Sukhoi PAK-FA and China’s Chengdu J-20.Though both aircraft are positioned as air superiority fighters, the magazine’s defense analyst doubts that the J-20 could be called as such.

“Overall, the J-20 could be the more useful machine if it was used as a strike aircraft,” the article says.The analysis goes further, that if Russia was predicting for whatever reason in a conflict with China, the war would most likely take place on Russia’s territory rather than in China, specifically in Russia’s Far East.

“Range will be an important factor. While there is no specific information available about the range performance of either the J-20 or PAK-FA, given the size of the Chinese aircraft, one suspects it has longer legs. It probably also has a much greater payload.”
The Sukhoi PAK FA, also known as the T-50, had originally listed a maximum speed of 1,520 mph (2,446 kmph), or March 2.35, which was then reduced to March 2.1, and, ultimately, to March 2 (1,330 mph, or 2,140 kmph at sea level). Its cruising speed would be 1,120 mph (1,802 kmph).

Its listed ferry range is 3,400 miles (5,471kmph), and it has an operational service ceiling of 65,000 feet (19,812 meters).According to the data available on the J-20, it can climb at a rate of 304m/s. Its maximum speed is 2,100km/h. The range and service ceiling are 3,400km and 18,000m respectively.These metrics favor Russia’s fighter.

While both are positioned as stealth planes, “it’s hard to say what would happen if the two were to meet head on in an aerial battle,” The National Interest states. “There has never been an instance where two stealth aircraft have met in an air-to-air encounter. “

“If the J-20 and PAK-FA prove to be genuinely stealthy, an aerial engagement might devolve into a within visual range dogfight.” In such case, it says, “the J-20, which is powered by engines intended for the Sukhoi Su-27, is at a huge disadvantage”.

“Compared to the PAK-FA, the J-20 is underpowered and wouldn’t have the energy addition to keep up. Moreover, the PAK-FA has three-dimensional thrust vectoring for outstanding low speed handling. That means the Russian aircraft probably has the edge in turn rate, turn radius and high angle of attack performance.”
“But if both sides have high off-boresight missiles and helmet-mounted cueing systems, with a little luck, the J-20 might get a lucky shot—however, the PAK-FA probably still has the edge.”
 
Sukhoi PAK FA versus Chengdu J-20: Which Fighter Has the Bigger Punch?
PublishedSeptember 14, 2015 | Byadmin

SOURCE: SPUTNIK

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The US magazine The National Interest, which takes much interest in comparing countries’ military hardware, has chosen a new pair of war machines to compare: Russia’s Sukhoi PAK-FA and China’s Chengdu J-20.Though both aircraft are positioned as air superiority fighters, the magazine’s defense analyst doubts that the J-20 could be called as such.

“Overall, the J-20 could be the more useful machine if it was used as a strike aircraft,” the article says.The analysis goes further, that if Russia was predicting for whatever reason in a conflict with China, the war would most likely take place on Russia’s territory rather than in China, specifically in Russia’s Far East.

“Range will be an important factor. While there is no specific information available about the range performance of either the J-20 or PAK-FA, given the size of the Chinese aircraft, one suspects it has longer legs. It probably also has a much greater payload.”
The Sukhoi PAK FA, also known as the T-50, had originally listed a maximum speed of 1,520 mph (2,446 kmph), or March 2.35, which was then reduced to March 2.1, and, ultimately, to March 2 (1,330 mph, or 2,140 kmph at sea level). Its cruising speed would be 1,120 mph (1,802 kmph).

Its listed ferry range is 3,400 miles (5,471kmph), and it has an operational service ceiling of 65,000 feet (19,812 meters).According to the data available on the J-20, it can climb at a rate of 304m/s. Its maximum speed is 2,100km/h. The range and service ceiling are 3,400km and 18,000m respectively.These metrics favor Russia’s fighter.

While both are positioned as stealth planes, “it’s hard to say what would happen if the two were to meet head on in an aerial battle,” The National Interest states. “There has never been an instance where two stealth aircraft have met in an air-to-air encounter. “

“If the J-20 and PAK-FA prove to be genuinely stealthy, an aerial engagement might devolve into a within visual range dogfight.” In such case, it says, “the J-20, which is powered by engines intended for the Sukhoi Su-27, is at a huge disadvantage”.

“Compared to the PAK-FA, the J-20 is underpowered and wouldn’t have the energy addition to keep up. Moreover, the PAK-FA has three-dimensional thrust vectoring for outstanding low speed handling. That means the Russian aircraft probably has the edge in turn rate, turn radius and high angle of attack performance.”
“But if both sides have high off-boresight missiles and helmet-mounted cueing systems, with a little luck, the J-20 might get a lucky shot—however, the PAK-FA probably still has the edge.”
PAK-FA will be close to J-31 not J-20
 
Comparing something which is not even out in production yet.. they are going through numerous developments.. its totally wrong to compare to F22 ..

let the troll begin..
 
The point us magzine is making is that F22 is god, F35 is a goddess and pak fa and j20 are nothing but little ants ants
This is a Sputnik article,an Russian magazine.

PAK-FA will be close to J-31 not J-20
PAK -FA is a heavyweight air superiority fighter with >140 Kn engine.Its specs matches J-20 not J-31,a multirole fighter with the engines of Mig-29.So how is it comparable to J-31 is beyond my understanding.
 
Stealth ability J20 must be superior i guess, T-50's craft is..……anyway if battle between these two planes that really happens, it will be the competition of system Vs system, China' s awacs amount is in inferiority, so if really need a conclusion, i agree with this banch of American.
 
that article has so many things wrong with it.

first of all, neither aircraft is deployed and both are in the prototyping stage, no way in hell some american reporters gonna know how strong the electronics on board is gonna be nor the flight characteristics of each.

then there is this :

"Overall, the J-20 could be the more useful machine if it was used as a strike aircraft"
"given the size of the Chinese aircraft, one suspects it has longer legs. It probably also has a much greater payload.”

this has been debunked literally ages ago where, via satellite, it was proven that the j-20 is not that big, roughly the size of a su-27, which is definitely a air superiority fighter.

furthermore we know that the j-20 is designed to be more maneuverable than the f-22 but less so than pak fa. but to counter that, the j-20 is also less stealthy than the f-22 but more stealthy that pak fa (go check dr. song's papers). so even with less powerful engines, the result is not so clear cut as the article want you to believe that's not to mention AL-31 is an interim engine, the actual engine will be the ws-15 perhaps in the 2nd or 3rd batch which will wipe away the power differential.
 
The source is Sputnik.
Sukhoi PAK FA versus Chengdu J-20: Which Fighter Has the Bigger Punch?
PublishedSeptember 14, 2015 | Byadmin

SOURCE: SPUTNIK

Read carefully brother


The US magazine The National Interest, which takes much interest in comparing countries’ military hardware, has chosen a new pair of war machines to compare: Russia’s Sukhoi PAK-FA and China’s Chengdu J-20.Though both aircraft are positioned as air superiority fighters, the magazine’s defense analyst doubts that the J-20 could be called as such.
PAK-FA probably still has the edge.”
 
Sukhoi PAK FA versus Chengdu J-20: Which Fighter Has the Bigger Punch?
PublishedSeptember 14, 2015 | Byadmin

SOURCE: SPUTNIK

Read carefully brother


The US magazine The National Interest, which takes much interest in comparing countries’ military hardware, has chosen a new pair of war machines to compare: Russia’s Sukhoi PAK-FA and China’s Chengdu J-20.Though both aircraft are positioned as air superiority fighters, the magazine’s defense analyst doubts that the J-20 could be called as such.
PAK-FA probably still has the edge.”
Oh ok.Sorry.Seems like I missed that part.
 

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