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Indo-Russia T-50 stealth fighter to make its international debut​

MOSCOW: T-50 stealth fighter jointly developed by Russia and India will make its first international public appearance at the MAKS airshow which went underway in Moscow, where Moscow unveiled its newest space shuttle, armed drones and a new range of upgraded weapons.

Two prototypes of the single seater jet, estimated to cost USD 6 billion, are expected to fly over Zhukovsky air field on the outskirts of Moscow.

"The co-development projects of the two countries will remain centerpiece of the Russian aviation industry", declared Mikhail Pogosyan, President of the United Aircraft Corporation, makers of the aircraft.

Sukhoi's T-50 made its maiden flight in January 2010 and is expected to enter service by 2015. "The stealth fighter is progressing as planned and the new engine for the plane will be ready in time", Pogosyan said.

The fifth generation Sukhoi T-50, also called the PAK FA for its Russian abbreviations for a perspective frontline aviation complex, is meant to be a rival to the US joint strike fighter F-22 Raptor.

Pogosyan had earlier said that Russia planned to develop upto 1,000 stealth fighters over the coming decade as aviation experts say that the Russian military orders will account for more than 50 per cent of the combat planes' produce.

He said that the Russian airforce is expected to buy 20 new fighters annually in the coming years.

Top Russian aircraft makers including Sukhoi and Mig have survived thanks to orders from India and China, but steady increase in government defence spending over the past few years have given new incentives to the nation's aircraft industries.

The Indian projects jointly developed by the two countries will remain the centrepiece of the Russian aviation industry, according to a top official.

Speaking with the reporters after the inauguration of the 10th International Aviation and Space Saloon (MAKS-2011), here President of the United Aircraft Corporation Mikhail Pogosyan told that the fifth generation fighter Russia's new stealth fighter jet, which is expected to make its first public appearance during the air show Another static T-50 is expected to be demonstrated to a 'select' group'.

"The T-50 will be the newest main plane both for the Russian and Indian Air Force," Pogosyan said.

The fifth generation Sukhoi T-50, also called the PAK FA for its Russian abbreviations for a perspective frontline aviation complex, is meant to be a rival to the US joint strike fighter F-22 Raptor.

According to the local media reports the Indian version of the FGFA will be a lighter derivative of the PAK FA.

The projects for the joint development of Multimode Transport Aircraft (MTA) and deeper modernisation of Sukhoi Su-30 MKI fighters under the 'Super-30" project are among the key joint Indo-Russian projects.

India has a larger footprint at MAKS-2011, the air show which is held at alternate years, with an expanded presence.

Unlike in the past when BrahMos JV used to display its deadly missiles under the roof of its Russian partner, India has its exclusive stall displaying the models of its cruise missiles, including an outdoor life-size mock-up of BrahMos cruise missile for the Sukhoi fighters.


Hindustan Aeronautics Limited also has a bigger display exhibiting models of the helicopters and planes produced by it.

This year's new entrant is Bharat Electronics, with a whole range of its avionics and force multipliers.

A huge IL-76 Flying Laboratory of Gromov Flight Research Institute with a Kaveri engine fitted on its test bed is also indicative of the scope of bilateral cooperation in cutting edge technologies.

The plane also bears the Seal of India's DRDO, showing an enduring interaction between the two organisations.

In all over 800 Russian and foreign firms, including Boeing and Airbus are taking part in MAKS airshow.


Indo-Russia T-50 stealth fighter to make its international debut - The Economic Times

 

[rockstarIN]

Wow..FGFA is lighter than PAK FA ............means more stealtier..

 

[Abingdonboy]

Wow..FGFA is lighter than PAK FA ............means more stealtier..

Indo-Russia T-50 stealth fighter to make its international debut​

MOSCOW: T-50 stealth fighter jointly developed by Russia and India will make its first international public appearance at the MAKS airshow which went underway in Moscow, where Moscow unveiled its newest space shuttle, armed drones and a new range of upgraded weapons.

Two prototypes of the single seater jet, estimated to cost USD 6 billion, are expected to fly over Zhukovsky air field on the outskirts of Moscow.

"The co-development projects of the two countries will remain centerpiece of the Russian aviation industry", declared Mikhail Pogosyan, President of the United Aircraft Corporation, makers of the aircraft.

Sukhoi's T-50 made its maiden flight in January 2010 and is expected to enter service by 2015. "The stealth fighter is progressing as planned and the new engine for the plane will be ready in time", Pogosyan said.

The fifth generation Sukhoi T-50, also called the PAK FA for its Russian abbreviations for a perspective frontline aviation complex, is meant to be a rival to the US joint strike fighter F-22 Raptor.

Pogosyan had earlier said that Russia planned to develop upto 1,000 stealth fighters over the coming decade as aviation experts say that the Russian military orders will account for more than 50 per cent of the combat planes' produce.

He said that the Russian airforce is expected to buy 20 new fighters annually in the coming years.

Top Russian aircraft makers including Sukhoi and Mig have survived thanks to orders from India and China, but steady increase in government defence spending over the past few years have given new incentives to the nation's aircraft industries.

The Indian projects jointly developed by the two countries will remain the centrepiece of the Russian aviation industry, according to a top official.

Speaking with the reporters after the inauguration of the 10th International Aviation and Space Saloon (MAKS-2011), here President of the United Aircraft Corporation Mikhail Pogosyan told that the fifth generation fighter Russia's new stealth fighter jet, which is expected to make its first public appearance during the air show Another static T-50 is expected to be demonstrated to a 'select' group'.

"The T-50 will be the newest main plane both for the Russian and Indian Air Force," Pogosyan said.

The fifth generation Sukhoi T-50, also called the PAK FA for its Russian abbreviations for a perspective frontline aviation complex, is meant to be a rival to the US joint strike fighter F-22 Raptor.

According to the local media reports the Indian version of the FGFA will be a lighter derivative of the PAK FA.

The projects for the joint development of Multimode Transport Aircraft (MTA) and deeper modernisation of Sukhoi Su-30 MKI fighters under the 'Super-30" project are among the key joint Indo-Russian projects.

India has a larger footprint at MAKS-2011, the air show which is held at alternate years, with an expanded presence.

Unlike in the past when BrahMos JV used to display its deadly missiles under the roof of its Russian partner, India has its exclusive stall displaying the models of its cruise missiles, including an outdoor life-size mock-up of BrahMos cruise missile for the Sukhoi fighters.


Hindustan Aeronautics Limited also has a bigger display exhibiting models of the helicopters and planes produced by it.

This year's new entrant is Bharat Electronics, with a whole range of its avionics and force multipliers.

A huge IL-76 Flying Laboratory of Gromov Flight Research Institute with a Kaveri engine fitted on its test bed is also indicative of the scope of bilateral cooperation in cutting edge technologies.

The plane also bears the Seal of India's DRDO, showing an enduring interaction between the two organisations.

In all over 800 Russian and foreign firms, including Boeing and Airbus are taking part in MAKS airshow.


Indo-Russia T-50 stealth fighter to make its international debut - The Economic Times

How can a two seat fighter be lighter than the single seat fighter it is derived from if it has the same capabilities?

 

[angeldemon_007]

^^^
Not to mention twin seat will increase RCS and thereby effecting the stealth of FGFA unless some counter-measures are deployed. I think if RCS is more IAF should consider purchasing more single seater t50.

Wow..FGFA is lighter than PAK FA ............means more stealtier..

I don't think weight has anything to do with stealth.

 

[razgriz19]

Wow..FGFA is lighter than PAK FA ............means more stealtier..

dont get me wrong but I THINK it means watered down version...

 

[thebrownguy]

dont get me wrong but I THINK it means watered down version...

Well thats what i thought too.

 

[vijayjha]

nice plane

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good going india

 

[Abingdonboy]

dont get me wrong but I THINK it means watered down version...

Well thats what i thought too.

I don't think so, if anything the FGFA will be MORE advanced than the PAK-FA, in the same way the MKI Is an improved version of the SU-30MK. And with 2 pilots it is more lethal. It is possible, having now looked into it, that the weight savings are made by fitting lighter, more advanced components sourced from India and Israel- in some key areas both countries are more advanced than Russia. And looking back I think I also understand that the FGFA will incorporate more carbon composites, a craft India is now well skilled in, thus reducing the overall weight.

 

[sancho]

ok so why does IAF wants a twin seater?
i know it takes off the work load from the pilot, good for strike missions, etc, but are there any other MAIN reasons?

India is a big country and FGFA just like MKI today is meant for long range and long endurance patrol missions, so having 2 pilots that can fly the fighter (not only 1 pilot / 1 WSO), is obviously and advantage compared to a single pilot. The MKIs are reported to fly 9h missions, or more and staying focused for such a long time isn't that easy of course and like you pointed out, MKI is meant to be a fully multi role fighter, designed for A2A and A2G. Compared to Russia, which have the Su 35 for A2A mainly and the Su 34 for strikes mainly, the MKI fits perfectly inbetween.

How can a two seat fighter be lighter than the single seat fighter it is derived from if it has the same capabilities?

Correct, I have some big doubts about this part too, but maybe they just mean that it integrates more composites to reduce the weight.

^^^
Not to mention twin seat will increase RCS and thereby effecting the stealth of FGFA unless some counter-measures are deployed. I think if RCS is more IAF should consider purchasing more single seater t50.


I don't think weight has anything to do with stealth.

I don't think the RCS would be increased that much, of course the surface is bigger, but keep in mind that it is just one part of the whole fighter and Pak Fa is a big fighter too. Lower weight could be used to add more RAM coatings, but in this case, I think it's more about weight reduction.

 

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[RPK]

The new Russian fighter: shown today, here tomorrow - Indian Express


For the past two weeks, Sergey L Bogdan has been missing out on his favorite hobby, playing ice hockey with friends in Moscow, a 45-minute drive from this testing facility. It has been difficult to keep away from, he says with a smile, but that is the precaution required to be able to pilot Russia’s new fifth-generation fighter and India’s future mainstay warplane on its first ever public appearance before the world.

Bogdan, who is the lead test pilot for the Russian T 50 fighter, will fly the new-generation aircraft at the Moscow Air Show on Wednesday. Till now, it has been a highly secretive project to create a futuristic aircraft to match the capabilities of the American F 22 “Raptor” and F 35 fifth generation fighters.

The public appearance marks a milestone also for India, which is partially funding the fifth-generation fighter programme and will co-develop a custom made version for the Air Force with induction planned by 2018. India, which signed a contract with Russia in December last year, has described it as the “biggest defence programme ever in the history of India”. The total deal is estimated at over the $30 billion mark.

Now, Bogdan, who has flown 70 of the 80 test sorties that have been undertaken by the T 50, has for the first time come on record to say that Indian pilots will not find it difficult to fly the new-generation fighter.

“It will not be hard to master the aircraft. Each new generation of fighters are easier to fly. While the tasks and missions handled by the aircraft will be more (than previous fighters flown by IAF), we are working to make the man machine interface better,” Bogdan said, in his first ever interaction with the Indian media.

While work on the Indian version of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) has just about started, Bogdan says that the first public appearance of the fighter is significant for the Indian programme as the platform is common. India has placed additional requirements that include having two pilots for the fighter that is currently flown solo by Russia. An HAL team, led by MD Ashok Nayak, is also at the air show to check on the progress of the Indian program. The FGFA will be a leap ahead of the current generation of fighters flown by the IAF and incorporates stealth technologies that will make it invisible to radars.

Bogdan, who has 4,500 flying hours to his credit and has flown most types of Russian fighters, says that two prototypes of the fighter have been developed and currently test flights are being carried out to expand the flight envelope of the fighter.

“We are currently not taking it to a stress beyond 5 g but that will start once static tests are completed. The aircraft has flown at an altitude of 15,000 metres,” says Bogdan, who underwent 400 hours of training before he undertook the first flight of the fighter in January 2010.

Russia is planning to start serial production of the fighter by 2015 and is initially expected to get 70 of the modern fighters. India has come on record to say that it is expecting induction to begin by 2018 and is planning to induct 250-300 of the fighters, making them the mainstay of IAF’s strike fleet. There is a sense of urgency within the IAF to expedite the program, given that China too has flown the first prototype of its own fifth generation fighter, the J 20, in January this year.

(The correspondent is attending the Moscow Air Show on the invitation of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation)

 

[RPK]

The induction of the FGFA into the Indian fleet is to begin in 2018 as the first prototype has already undergone several tests, the official added.

The FGFA will be a stealthy, lethal swing-role fighter with advanced avionics, 360-degree situational awareness, smart weapons, data links and high-end mission computers, the Indian Air Force has said.

Indian Team Visits Moscow for Su T-50 Flight Demo - Defense News

 

[Vibs]

New stealth fighter to top the bill at Moscow Air Show
A new generation prototype fighter is set to make its first public appearance at the Moscow Air Show this week.
The Sukhoi T-50 will be the jewel in the Russian Air Force’s crown. The service has relied on the Mikoyan MiG-29 and Sukhoi Su-27 family of combat aircraft as the core of its fighter force since the mid-1980s, but these aircraft are seen as approaching obsolescence.
The T-50 is Russia’s first new major combat aircraft design to fly since the end of Soviet Union. When an operational fighter based on it is put into service, possibly as soon as 2015, it will be the Russian Air Force’s first stealth aircraft, featuring low-observable technology that makes it almost impossible to detect with radar.
Like its US counterpart, the F-22 Raptor, it will be able to cruise at supersonic speeds, and be capable of pulling high-G maneuvers that older aircraft cannot match thanks to thrust-vectoring exhaust nozzles and a high-tech flight control system.
Although it looks similar to America’s stealth fighters, analysts say the aircraft is not simply a copy and shows Russia still has excellent design expertise.
“This is not ‘F-22ski’,” says Douglas Barrie, air warfare analyst at the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS).
The T-50 made its first flight at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur factory airfield in Siberia in January, and since then two prototypes have been undergoing flight tests at the Zhukovsky flight test center near Moscow.
The T-50 is being touted in some quarters as Russia’s return to the leading edge of military aviation, but the aircraft is not yet a finished item, and Russia had to rely on outside funding to get the machine into the air.
India will pay for 35 percent of the estimated $6 billion development costs, D. Shivamurti of Hindustan Aeronautics, the Indian manufacturing partner in the project, said earlier this year.
Getting it into front-line squadrons will be the real next challenge, analysts say.
“The real issue is, has Russia got the budget to develop it and put it into service,” says Craig Hoyle, Defense Aviation Correspondent for Flight International magazine.
The big question is just how many of these super-fighters Russia can afford. The Russian Air Force has said it wants to buy around 50 to 60 initially.
“That is nowhere near enough, even with a reduced air force,” Barrie from IISS says.
Russia wants to field up to 200 aircraft eventually, but cost will be a crucial issue. Even the United States could only afford around 180 of its F-22s, which eventually cost around $140 million each, including development costs.
Just how much the T-50 could cost is not yet clear, but Mikhail Pogosyan, Sukhoi’s former chief designer and head of the United Aircraft Corporation, a holding company, says it will be cheaper than the American F-22 but more expensive than the previous generation of fighters.
New stealth fighter to top the bill at Moscow Air Show | Defense | RIA Novosti

 

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[Firemaster]

Nice Video Sancho