Sukhoi PAK-FA / FGFA: Updates,News & Discussions

[kurup]

Is this an official drawing?

That is MiG-1.44 .... One among the Soviet 5G TD along with Berkut .


MiG-1.44

Su-47 Berkut

 

[#hydra#]

Su 47 aka s37 was a futuristic concept,a forward swept wing aircraft with a powerful engineshigh agility ,low rcs design etc... Wonder why they have dropped the project.

 

[Perpendicular]

3 New T50 will begin testing this year.

 

[Perpendicular]

On board radar stations of T50

 

[Abingdonboy]

MIG corp: We've started to develop 5-gen light fighters based on MIG-35 & 1.44 Draft to show RuAF within months
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Any ideas for IAF.

The Russians can't even develop a single 5th gen platform (PAK-FA), forget this pipe dream.

 

[Perpendicular]

The Russians can't even develop a single 5th gen platform (PAK-FA), forget this pipe dream.

Do you think then India can on its own ? MIG is purposing a lightweight 5th gen fighter replacing mig 29, could be our answer to 5th gen naval platform.
What other options we got.
I believe in Russian efforts and their idea of not solely relying on stealth.View attachment 251954
we can increase the composite material percentage, change avionics package, sub systems.
Looking at what sukhoi 30 has done for us, possibilities with FGFA are great.

 

[Abingdonboy]

View attachment 251953
Do you think then India can on its own ? MIG is purposing a lightweight 5th gen fighter replacing mig 29, could be our answer to 5th gen naval platform.
What other options we got.
I believe in Russian efforts and their idea of not solely relying on stealth.View attachment 251954
we can increase the composite material percentage, change avionics package, sub systems.
Looking at what sukhoi 30 has done for us, possibilities with FGFA are great.

I don't see why this platform has any relevance to India nor why India should be interested in it, for its own (in-house) 5th gen platform with possible naval variants the AMCA is a FAR more attractive option that should be explored.

As time goes by I am less and less enamoured by the Russians, they are taking India for a jolly good ride (at India's expense) and delivering little.

 

[Perpendicular]

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Xposting. Credit to original poster from another forum

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And a PAK FA programme timeline from the KNAAZ insiders (for 10.08.2015):
Т-50-1 - 219 fh, 197 landings.
Т-50-2 - 221 fh, 221 landings. 24.07.2015 sideway weapons bay has being destructed under VPU-50 (ВПУ-50) short range AAM launcher test. Aircraft has been repaired, a new sideway weapons bay (БГрО) design has been developed and will be applied to T-50-6-2 Stage II prototype.
Т-50-3 - 300 fh, 151 landings. Fuselage fuel tank has leaked near the left intake. Aircraft has being repaired and having further tests preparations in LII (Zhukovskiy).
Т-50-4 - 169 fh, 106 landings.
T-50-5 R (repaired) - a T-50-5 after fire repair project has been completed, giving the tech guys fucking valuable experience in composite parts repair process. Will be delivered to LII in this October or November.

And the best part:
A Stage II prototype T-50-6-2 has been assembled and now undergoes systems debugging, structure tests, and ATTENTION!!! the first time in T-50 history a RAM coatings application!!!
The 1-st flight is planned - on 01.12.2015, then the bird will be transported to LII and will undergo complete RF/RCS trials. After that it will be sent to the rest ones for pre-production flight tests on 15.01.2016 (planned).

T-50-8 - the second Stage II prototype undergoes assembly process and will be delivered in the middle of 2016.
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[bdslph]

you need to be patient it is not easy to make a stealth plane but in a ashort period time Russia went a long way

 

[Perpendicular]

Perspective Multirole Fighter

As at 31 December 2014 the parties agreed on technical concept, completed detailed design work. Consultations on the schedule and cost of research and development are under way.
I saw your @Irfan Baloch 3d work in one of lca thread man, if u got time can consider this one. Thanks

 

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[Echo_419]

The Russians can't even develop a single 5th gen platform (PAK-FA), forget this pipe dream.

I agree we should rather put our money in our R&D Orgs & focus on developing technologies

 

[Hephaestus]

That is MiG-1.44 .... One among the Soviet 5G TD along with Berkut .


MiG-1.44

Su-47 Berkut

Did someone say Berkut

 

[Perpendicular]

Let IAF test-fly 5th-Gen fighters, Russia told - The Times of India


NEW DELHI: Ahead of PM Narendra Modi's visit to Moscow in December, India has asked Russia to allow IAF test pilots to fly its fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) to evaluate its capabilities.

"Flight-testing will help decide the way forward on the collaboration between the two countries on the FGFA. All options, ranging from an off-the-shelf purchase of 60-65 jets to joint production, are on the table," said a top defence ministry official on Friday.

The fact that India needs an FGFA, which combines stealth, super-cruise capability, super-maneuverability, data fusion and multi-sensor integration on a single fighter, in the years ahead cannot be disputed.

For a country that is yet to even make its first indigenous fighter (the fourth-generation Tejas) fully-operational, the choice is limited. While the F/A-22 'Raptor' of the US is the world's only fully-operational FGFA as of now, the Russian Sukhoi T-50 and the American F-35 'Lightning-II' Joint Strike Fighter are the ones undergoing final developmental tests.

But having repeatedly rejected the FGFA overtures made by the US, India was slated to seal the project to co-develop and co-produce the Sukhoi T-50 with Russia at least three years ago.

It was after all way back in 2007 that the Indo-Russian inter-governmental agreement for the FGFA was inked. It was followed by the $295 million preliminary design contract in December 2010.

India, along the way, also slashed its requirement from the original 166 single-seat and 48 twin-seat fighters to just 127 single-seat jets. The overall FGFA project cost for making all the 127 fighters in India was pegged at around $25 billion.

But technical, cost and delivery timeframe wrangles have kept the final design contract — under which both sides were to chip in an initial $5.5 billion each for prototype development and infrastructure - far away from being inked till now. "The off-the-shelf purchase is being considered since the final R&D contract may take more time," said the source.