Sukhoi PAK-FA / FGFA: Updates,News & Discussions

[RockyX]

Sukhoi: Development of PAK FA is going on without any failures

Russia and India are continuing their cooperation on development and construction of fifth-generation fighter PAK FA (Prospective Airborne Complex of Frontline Aviation), RIA Novosti reports. It has been reported by the official representative of Sukhoi Company.


It has been reported earlier by Russian mass-media that the negotiations regarding this project are at the end of one’s tether. But they did not specify who is responsible for this.

"The work (on development of fifth-generation fighter) are being carried out at full speed", - the aviation company’s representative noted.

The contract on development of Indian PAK FA version’s (designated as FGFA - Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) draft engineering design has been signed on December 21st 2010. Russian partners have pledged to invest $295 million in the project. Indian air forces are planning to acquire 250-300 FGFAs with a total value of $25 billion.

Russian prototype of PAK FA (Т-50), designed by Sukhoi design bureau, have already performed its maiden flight in January 2010. The start of T-50 deliveries is scheduled on 2016. It is expected that the joint Russia-India fifth generation fighter will be created in several years after the start of T-50’s acquisition by Russian air forces.

It is also intended that the joint Russia-India fighter will become an export version of T-50.

 

[RockyX]

Russia's Fifth-gen PAK FA first public display at МAKS-2011 next month

OFFICIAL SPONSOR OF FLIGHT PROGRAM

GOODYEAR RUSSIA LLC

A feature that sets the International Aviation and Space Salon (MAKS) apart from the leading aviation forums of the world is its rich and colorful flight program. The forthcoming anniversary MAKS 2011 won’t be an exception to this rule.

Unsurpassed flights of Russian and foreign aces will light up the sky over Zhukovsky airfield once again. Unmatched performances of four Russian aerobatic teams wait for visitors at MAKS-2011. They will see performances of "Russian Knights", "Strizhi", "Russian Falcons" and "Rus" aerobatic teams, flights of demonstration planes from USA, France and Italy as well as flights of the best Russian test pilots on Russian modern fighters and civil airplanes!

Among the participants it will also be possible to see the aerobatic team «Baltic Bees» which is the first and exclusive private civil aerobatic team in the Baltic states. It is based at the aerodrome Tukums 60 km westward of Riga, the Republic of Latvia (ICAO code – EVTA). This team was created in 2008. The skill of the group piloting on minimum distances and the precision of acrobatics operations are the landmark of «Baltic Bees».

The aerobatic team has performed in many countries of Europe and Asia, among which there are Czech Republic and Poland, Germany and France, Sweden and Finland, Estonia and Lithuania, Ukraine and the the United Arab Emirates and others.

The team flies on airplanes L-39С Albatros manufactured in Czech Republic. The peculiarity of the planes of this team is the plane's original paintings like «baltic bees» underlining the brightness and the elegance of lines of aerodynamic configuration of the plane. The program of flying display of «Baltic Bees» involves nonrecurring acrobatic maneuvers, executed by 5 plains in high-density formation.
For the visitors’ convenience the static parking area will be more compact, similarly to MAKS-2009: Airplanes weighting up to 3 tons will be standing on the ground, while all the other aircraft and aviation equipment will be located on the concrete airstrip.

By tradition, the static parking area will opened with the exposition of the United Aircraft Corporation. The exhibits will include Russian modern multipurpose fighters Su-35, MiG-35, Su-30 MK2, as well as the novelty of the Russian civil aircraft industry – Sukhoy superjet-100 aircraft. For the first time Russian PAK FA fighter of the Fifth generation will take part in the flight program.

At the static parking area the Russian Air Force will present the full range of military airplanes and helicopters: Tu-160, A-50, Tu-95, Su-27 SM, MiG-29SMT, Su-24M, Su-25SM, Su-34, MiG-31B, Jak-130, helicopters Ka-52, Mi-26, Mi-8 MTV-5, Mi-28. Also, Russian Helicopters, JSC will demonstrate their wide range of military and civil helicopters. Apart from this, themed flight performances are in the schedule: "Search and Rescue" with participation of Ka-226Т Mi-34S1 helicopters; “Anti-terror” with participation of Ka-52 Mi-28NE, Mi-8 helicopters.

This time you will also be able to see the reconstruction of the Soviet field airdrome of air defense of the period of the Battle of Moscow, with flying display of planes wording off the raids of Hitlerites to Moscow. The program includes the single, group and aerobatic flights accompanied by the performance of the group of reenactors in the field airdrome and by the comments of an announcer. For the first time it will be possible to see about 10 planes of the military period simultaneously in the air of MAKS. The following defense equipment is prepared for demonstrations: I-15bis, I-153, I-16, DIT, Sh-2, three Po-2, two MiG-3 fighters, and also two T-60 tanks, GAZ-AA cars, anti-aircraft guns and a functioning field kitchen

No doubt that the main premiere of MAKS-2011 will be the biggest passenger airplane А-380 made by Airbus concern. An-158 airplane will be one of the Ukrainian novelties. Thus, this year’s MAKS will be the only exhibition in the world, where the visitors will see the biggest passenger and cargo aircraft!

The French Air Force will demonstrate Rafale fighters in their flight program and the Italian Air Force will demonstrate the only cargo aircraft in the world, performing aerial stunts – S27.

This year, after 4-year break, US Air Force airplanes will take part in the Salon. For the first time C-5А Galaxy military transport airplane, А-10 attack planes and P-3 reconnaissance plane will be presented at the static parking area. The Salon’s visitors will also be able to see traditional MAKS participants - KC-135 transport airplanes, F-16 and F-15 fighters as well as В-52 bomber. F-15 multipurpose fighter will perform a new 15 minute long program.

With every year MAKS pays an increasing attention to the business program, which includes a large number of negotiations, meetings, forums and congress-type events. Due to this circumstance, during 17-18 August, which are the days, intended for experts, the flight program will be limited. During the days, intended for the public at large, the aviation show will be going on in full daily from 11am to 5pm.

Official Web site of the International Aviation and Space Salon AKS-2011 :: FLIGHT PROGRAM

 

[RockyX]

Sukhoi T-50 PAKFA Public Debut Planned for MAKS 2011 in August

Russia’s Sukhoi T-50 fifth-generation fighter, also known as PAK-FA, will make its public debut at the upcoming MAKS 2011 airshow near Moscow in August, 2011, according to Nikolai Zanegin, Deputy General Director of Russia’s Aviasalon company, quoted by Russian News Agency Novosti.

The Sukhoi T-50 fighter is being developed by the Sukhoi design bureau and built at a plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, in Russia’s Far East. The first prototype conducted its maiden flight in January 2010 and has so far carried out over 40 test flights. Two more prototypes are at various stages of testing. The Russian Air Force has said it had plans to acquire over 60 T-50 fighters after 2015.

The MAKS-2011 air show will be held at Zhukovsky outside Moscow on August 16-21. In all, 627 companies, including 473 Russian and 154 foreign exhibitors.

Other Russian made modern fighters to be demonstrated in flight include the Su-35, MiG-35 and Su-30 MK2. The helicopter display will include the Ka-226Т and Mi-34S1 helicopters along with Ka-52, Mi-28NE and Mi-8.

Guest performers at MAKS 2011 will be the French Air Force rafale. The French fighter will be flown to Moscow from its home base at Saint Dizier, France. F-15E strike fighters from U.S. European command will also participate in the flight display, along with A-10, F-16s, B-52, KC-10 and KC-135 tankers, C-130J Super Hercules and C-5 Galaxy shown on the static park. Other aircraft on display will include the Airbus A380, Boeing C-17 and Alenia C-72J Spartan transport aircraft.

 

[localoca]

perceived raptor killer .

...

expect Chinese coming with their own version.

J-20 will be inducted first than T-50...

 

[localoca]

I assume these T-50s are similar to YF-22s

you assume to much, the Yankis have 600 Billion $ to expend in their high tech toys, Russia wished they had YF-23 Class tech..

 

[localoca]

thanks to the latter versions of flankers which demonstrated its effectiveness.

but not good with Stealth...

 

[conworldus]

The T-50 is just recently in development, and according to many people, the two flying are merely "prototypes" that will undergo a lot of changes. So why is Russia so impatient that it has to show off such an incomplete project? It has sold to India, and is trying to sell to Korea. I smell so much fish...

Sukhoi T-50 PAKFA Public Debut Planned for MAKS 2011 in August

Russia’s Sukhoi T-50 fifth-generation fighter, also known as PAK-FA, will make its public debut at the upcoming MAKS 2011 airshow near Moscow in August, 2011, according to Nikolai Zanegin, Deputy General Director of Russia’s Aviasalon company, quoted by Russian News Agency Novosti.

The Sukhoi T-50 fighter is being developed by the Sukhoi design bureau and built at a plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, in Russia’s Far East. The first prototype conducted its maiden flight in January 2010 and has so far carried out over 40 test flights. Two more prototypes are at various stages of testing. The Russian Air Force has said it had plans to acquire over 60 T-50 fighters after 2015.

The MAKS-2011 air show will be held at Zhukovsky outside Moscow on August 16-21. In all, 627 companies, including 473 Russian and 154 foreign exhibitors.

Other Russian made modern fighters to be demonstrated in flight include the Su-35, MiG-35 and Su-30 MK2. The helicopter display will include the Ka-226Т and Mi-34S1 helicopters along with Ka-52, Mi-28NE and Mi-8.

Guest performers at MAKS 2011 will be the French Air Force rafale. The French fighter will be flown to Moscow from its home base at Saint Dizier, France. F-15E strike fighters from U.S. European command will also participate in the flight display, along with A-10, F-16s, B-52, KC-10 and KC-135 tankers, C-130J Super Hercules and C-5 Galaxy shown on the static park. Other aircraft on display will include the Airbus A380, Boeing C-17 and Alenia C-72J Spartan transport aircraft.

 

[aimarraul]

Russia to export 600 Sukhoi PAK FA fifth generation jets


Russia is capable of exporting over 600 units of the fifth generation fighter Sukhoi. According to experts of the Center for Analysis of the Global Arms Trade, it is planned to build at least a thousand of these aircraft. The expected order of the Russian Air Force during the years of 2020-2040 with a favorable economic scenario in the country may reach 400-450 units.


In general, the volume of potential export orders for the PAK FA, considering India, could reach 548-686 fighters. Currently, the only foreign member of the PAK FA program is India, which plans to have no less than 250 units of fifth-generation fighter in service of its air force. They will be built on the basis of the Russian PAK FA, but the level of licensing control of the Russian side for the future model of the fifth generation aircraft is unknown.


In July of 2010, General Director of Sukhoi Mikhail Pogosyan said that the contract with India may be signed before the end of this year. The details of future cooperation of Sukhoi and the leading Indian corporation Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) participating in the development have not been reported.

Based on the forecast, the potential buyers of PAK FA are distributed between the following countries: Algeria (can purchase 24-36 fifth-generation fighters in the period of 2025-2030 years), Argentina (12-24 units in the years 2035-2040), Brazil (24 - 36 units in the years 2030-2035), Venezuela (24-36 units in the years 2027-2032), Vietnam (12-24 units in the years 2030-2035), Egypt (12-24 units in the years 2040-2045).

Also, Indonesia (6-12 units in the years 2028-2032), Iran (36-48 units in the years 2035-2040), Kazakhstan (12-24 units in the years 2025-2035), China (up to 100 units in the years 2025-2035), Libya (12-24 units in the years 2025-2030), Malaysia (12-24 units in the years 2035-2040), and Syria (12-24 units in the years 2025-2030).


The real competitor to the PAK FA in the foreseeable future is only the F-35 Lightning-2, as a heavy version of the U.S. fifth generation fighter F-22. Due to its excessive price (approximately $250 million per aircraft for export) there is hardly the demand in the world arms market.


In addition, in the first half of the twenty-first century, a number of countries faced growing competition from the U.S. They want to save the independence in policy and will have to seek cooperation partners in the production of high-tech weapons systems, analysts say.


In the future, a number of Western European countries and, above all, France and possibly Germany, will show the practical interest in the partnership with Russia to develop fifth generation fighter. They will not be able to implement similar program independently, from scratch. They will not want to buy the F-35, as is done now by other countries, because they do not want to get into the technological, and as a consequence, political dependence on the U.S.


The fifth-generation aircraft is planned to take part in the aerospace show MAKS-2011. General Director of Sukhoi said that the aircraft had carried out 16 test flights, and to date the extent of its systems in terms of reliability and security allows for the program of flight tests in full. During the years 2011-12 it is planned to complete testing of the new fighter.

First Deputy Defense Minister Vladimir Popovkin estimated the need for Air Force fighter of the fifth generation at 50-100 units. By the way, Russia's own needs in the new generation of the equipment, given the size of the country, are estimated as very modest. In 2013-2015 the Ministry of Defense will buy the installation batch of ten aircrafts, and by 2020 a serial batch of 60 units will be purchased for the Air Force.


According to the Stockholm Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), Russia ranked second worldwide in terms of weapons exported. On the world market, Russia's share is 23%, while the USA has 30%. In 2001-2005, Russia has been a leader in supplying arms overseas - 31% vs. 30% of the U.S. Russia spends four times less than Japan, Germany and three times less than the Czech Republic on research and experimental development.

 

[SpArK]

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

Indian input to exceed one third of the
total D& D of the IAF’ s FGFA
The T- 50 (FGFA ). Many of FGFA/ PMF
technologies were tested first on Su-35
fighters
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Atul Chandra
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL)
will have a substantial role in the
development of the 5th generation
Perspective Multi-role Fighter (PMF)
being developed for the Indian Air
Force (IAF ) over the next decade. N.C .
Agarwal who retired as director,
Design and Development, HAL, last
month told FORCE that, “Indian
designers would contribute over one-
third of the total share of R &D
(including all prototypes) for the
project along with Russia, by the time
aircraft is certified.” The India team will
have access to all the design data and
information and a number of
agreements with the requisite
confidentiality clauses have been
signed in this regard” .
HAL will primarily be involved with
redesign of the structure for the twin-
seat variant and oversee the
integration of a number of systems
that have been specified by the IAF. In
the preliminary design phase expected
to be completed by in the last quarter
of 2012, HAL will ascertain the impact
of changes that need to be made to
the aircraft for the twin seat variant
desired by the IAF. The PMF currently
sports a radar cross section of
approximately 0.5 and it needs to be
seen if the twin-seat variant will have
reduced stealth characteristics due to
the increased cross section as also
changes to its aerodynamic and ‘g ’
performance. According to Agarwal,
“The changes would mean keeping a
close eye on the Radar Cross Section
(RCS) , the engines will remain the same
and should not affect stealth as the IR
signature primarily comes from
reheat” . The ability to super-cruise will
also contribute to stealth as the IR
signature will be substantially reduced
without use of reheat.
It appears that the Indian side will
make contributions with regards to the
software, electronics and advanced
mechanical systems on the PMF (FGFA /
T- 50).
Derivatives of a number of mechanical
systems developed within the country
by various organisations for a number
of home- grown programmes could
find their way to the PMF. In fact, it
has been conveyed to the Indian team,
that if Indian developed systems are
superior to those developed by Russia,
then they will be incorporated on the
Russian variants as well. It is very likely
that Indian developed systems could
be part of the Russian T- 50 (FGFA ).
NPO Saturn will begin development of
a brand new engine expected to
generate around 18 tonne of thrust,
though it is five to six years away from
being installed on the FGFA/ PMF.
According to Agarwal, “The offer to
partner in the development of a brand
new and higher thrust engine is open,
and the country should utilise this
opportunity to enter this field even if
the costs involved are extra” . ITAR-
TASS has quoted Ilya Fyodorov,
managing director of NPO Saturn as
saying that the new engine will be on
the FGFA by 2017. Apart from a few
aircraft, the PMF entering IAF service is
likely to be fitted with the new engine
around 2020.
The glass cockpit will be developed by
Russia and India though initially the
eight inch x 10 inch and 12 inch x 10
inch Multi Functional Display’ s (MFD)
will come from Russia. These displays
are also being developed in India and
could be incorporated on Russian
aircraft if they demonstrate better
performance. The PMF cockpit is likely
to be very similar to that already seen
on the Su-35 with a number of Indian
systems and the addition of a large
wide
angle HUD as seen on the FGFA
prototypes flying currently. In fact the
10 inch x 12 inch display is already
being offered for the Su-30 MKI
upgrade to the IAF and many upgrade
items on the Su-30 MKI will make its
way to the PMF. A high quality Helmet
Mounted Display System (HMDS) will
also be incorporated.

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[tvsram1992]

...

J-20 will be inducted first than T-50...

Then its clear that it is a 4.5 gen fighter, with out indigenous engine that can perfectly super cruise,high ir signature engine,lack of perfect thrust vectoring, less situational awareness than best planes like f22,f35,pakfa,not much speed data links, debut aesa radar,High rcs causing canards,huge size,less r&d time ....

 

[conworldus]

Then its clear that it is a 4.5 gen fighter, with out indigenous engine that can perfectly super cruise,high ir signature engine,lack of perfect thrust vectoring, less situational awareness than best planes like f22,f35,pakfa,not much speed data links, debut aesa radar,High rcs causing canards,huge size,less r&d time ....

Genius. Did you work on the J-20 to know all these? Sorry, we don't hire Indians

 

[Firemaster]

Genius. Did you work on the J-20 to know all these? Sorry, we don't hire Indians

So you hired Somalians
Atleast you admit you hired someone much better than you

 

[conworldus]

So you hired Somalians
Atleast you admit you hired someone much better than you

I have no idea what you mean.

 

[aimarraul]