Sukhoi PAK-FA / FGFA: Updates,News & Discussions

[he-man]

Have you seen F-22's thrust-vectored nozzles?

as a matter of fact i have

but that tech is totally diff mate.............

why does pakfa's engine protrude so much??

 

[Gessler]

as a matter of fact i have

but that tech is totally diff mate.............

why does pakfa's engine protrude so much??

Do you mean protruding horizontally?

That is a result of compressor diameter. Type-30 engine has smaller dimensions,
so the protrusion will automatically go down after the new engine is in place.

 

[he-man]

no one knows the diameter of type 30 engine

only thing known is that it has 5 blade compressor instead of 9 blade as in al-31 family

if something about diameter is known pls tell us

 

[DrSomnath999]

Sukhoi fighters will remain the backbone of the Russian Air Force

Russian jet maker Sukhoi continues the development of the T-50 fifth-generation fighter for the national air force under the PAK FA program. The fifth prototype of this aircraft made its hour-long maiden flight at Komsomolsk-on-Amur on October 28.

The manufacturer is not explaining how the T-50-5 differs from the previous prototypes, nor does it disclose what kind of tests the airframe is intended for. After the factory trials, T-50-5 will join the other four prototypes, which are currently being test-flown at Zhukovsky outside Moscow. Two more airframes are involved in the ground test: one of them is used as a ground rig, the other one is undergoing static tests.

The T-50 is intended to replace 4th generation Sukhoi Su-27/30 aircraft in the Russian Air Force. It will also serve as the baseline for the Russo-Indian Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft, being developed jointly by Sukhoi and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.

The first T-50 prototype flew in January 2010; the flight test program started in April same year. The T-50-3 prototype, equipped with an AESA radar, joined the trials in 2012, the same year as tests began on the fighter’s in-flight refueling capability. According to Sukhoi, in the three years of testing the T-50 prototypes completed more than 450 flights in total.

The T-50 prototypes involved in the flight tests are currently powered by a pair of Item 117 engines, which represent a radical upgrade of the NPO Saturn AL-31F design. Russia’s United Engine Corporation is looking to complete the development of a production engine for the Sukhoi T-50 fighters by late 2015. This is when the engineering design phase is expected to be finished and blueprints issued for the manufacture of the gas generator and engine demonstrators. Engine prototypes should be built and enter into testing in 2016.

Earlier, Russian Air Force Com**mander-in-Chief Lt-Gen Viktor Bon**darev said that the flying phase of the joint evaluation trials should begin in 2013. Series production of the new fighter is expected to be launched in 2016. According to Mikhail Pogosyan, head of Sukhoi’s parent company United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), 25 billion rubles (about $780 million) will be invested in setting up a T-50 assembly line at Sukhoi’s Komsomolsk-on-Amur facility, which already houses the assembly line for Russian Air Force Su-35S multirole fighters.

The Su-35S generation 4++ multirole combat aircraft is expected to be operated by the Russian Air Force alongside the T-50. The Russian military placed an order for 48 of the type in 2009. The first two airframes were delivered in 2011, another eight followed last year. The type is now undergoing join evaluation trials. Sukhoi reported earlier that the results of the flight testing program had corroborated the design performance parameters for the airframe, powerplants, navigation system, and other equipment. The aircraft demonstrated a maximum near ground airspeed of 1,400 km/h and 2,400 km/h at altitude, and its maximum demonstrated altitude is 18,000 m.

The Russian Air Force has also ordered two more warplane types from Sukhoi: the Su-30M2 twin-seat fighter and the Su-34 bomber. The latter are being assembled at another Sukhoi facility, in Novosibirsk. The military has inked two contracts with Sukhoi for a combined 124 of the type. Deliveries started in 2010.

The Russian Defense Ministry expects Sukhoi to deliver 14 more Su-34 this year. The first bomber was delivered in May, two more batches followed in July and October. The 2014 production plan for the Novosibirsk facility stands at 16 aircraft, the military reports.

According to Pogosyan, the Komso**molsk-on-Amur facility is planning to deliver 27 fighters to the Russian Air Force this year, and 19 more fighters in 2014. Joint deliveries by the two Sukhoi facilities are expected to reach 51 fighters in 2015. Pogosyan says this is more than one half of all the aircraft the Defense Ministry has ordered from UAC.

Sukhoi fighters will remain the backbone of the Russian Air Force | ???????????????? ?????????

 

[he-man]

Sukhoi fighters will remain the backbone of the Russian Air Force

Russian jet maker Sukhoi continues the development of the T-50 fifth-generation fighter for the national air force under the PAK FA program. The fifth prototype of this aircraft made its hour-long maiden flight at Komsomolsk-on-Amur on October 28.

The manufacturer is not explaining how the T-50-5 differs from the previous prototypes, nor does it disclose what kind of tests the airframe is intended for. After the factory trials, T-50-5 will join the other four prototypes, which are currently being test-flown at Zhukovsky outside Moscow. Two more airframes are involved in the ground test: one of them is used as a ground rig, the other one is undergoing static tests.

The T-50 is intended to replace 4th generation Sukhoi Su-27/30 aircraft in the Russian Air Force. It will also serve as the baseline for the Russo-Indian Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft, being developed jointly by Sukhoi and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.

The first T-50 prototype flew in January 2010; the flight test program started in April same year. The T-50-3 prototype, equipped with an AESA radar, joined the trials in 2012, the same year as tests began on the fighter’s in-flight refueling capability. According to Sukhoi, in the three years of testing the T-50 prototypes completed more than 450 flights in total.

The T-50 prototypes involved in the flight tests are currently powered by a pair of Item 117 engines, which represent a radical upgrade of the NPO Saturn AL-31F design. Russia’s United Engine Corporation is looking to complete the development of a production engine for the Sukhoi T-50 fighters by late 2015. This is when the engineering design phase is expected to be finished and blueprints issued for the manufacture of the gas generator and engine demonstrators. Engine prototypes should be built and enter into testing in 2016.

Earlier, Russian Air Force Com**mander-in-Chief Lt-Gen Viktor Bon**darev said that the flying phase of the joint evaluation trials should begin in 2013. Series production of the new fighter is expected to be launched in 2016. According to Mikhail Pogosyan, head of Sukhoi’s parent company United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), 25 billion rubles (about $780 million) will be invested in setting up a T-50 assembly line at Sukhoi’s Komsomolsk-on-Amur facility, which already houses the assembly line for Russian Air Force Su-35S multirole fighters.

The Su-35S generation 4++ multirole combat aircraft is expected to be operated by the Russian Air Force alongside the T-50. The Russian military placed an order for 48 of the type in 2009. The first two airframes were delivered in 2011, another eight followed last year. The type is now undergoing join evaluation trials. Sukhoi reported earlier that the results of the flight testing program had corroborated the design performance parameters for the airframe, powerplants, navigation system, and other equipment. The aircraft demonstrated a maximum near ground airspeed of 1,400 km/h and 2,400 km/h at altitude, and its maximum demonstrated altitude is 18,000 m.

The Russian Air Force has also ordered two more warplane types from Sukhoi: the Su-30M2 twin-seat fighter and the Su-34 bomber. The latter are being assembled at another Sukhoi facility, in Novosibirsk. The military has inked two contracts with Sukhoi for a combined 124 of the type. Deliveries started in 2010.

The Russian Defense Ministry expects Sukhoi to deliver 14 more Su-34 this year. The first bomber was delivered in May, two more batches followed in July and October. The 2014 production plan for the Novosibirsk facility stands at 16 aircraft, the military reports.

According to Pogosyan, the Komso**molsk-on-Amur facility is planning to deliver 27 fighters to the Russian Air Force this year, and 19 more fighters in 2014. Joint deliveries by the two Sukhoi facilities are expected to reach 51 fighters in 2015. Pogosyan says this is more than one half of all the aircraft the Defense Ministry has ordered from UAC.

Sukhoi fighters will remain the backbone of the Russian Air Force | ???????????????? ?????????

already running as alternative thread

 

[sancho]

already running as alternative thread

But should have posted here, since we have a sticky thread for these kind of news.

 

[he-man]

i know but ppl don't come here very often for discussion

 

[DrSomnath999]

But should have posted here, since we have a sticky thread for these kind of news.

on top of it he has changed the title of that thread to what suits his mind's fantasy
how the hell would someone know it is already posted
pakfa update..........regarding engine and production



CHEERS

 

[trident2010]

Now the T-50 started to look refined. However, I do not think it will match the F-22 in terms of stealth characteristics. From India's power projection goals, it will be more than sufficient though.

 

[Dash]

Now the T-50 started to look refined. However, I do not think it will match the F-22 in terms of stealth characteristics. From India's power projection goals, it will be more than sufficient though.

Actually it doesnt need to match F-22 in matters of stealth since Raptor is a very expensive fighter. It may not be difficult for Russians to match F-22 but for them it wasnt logical.

 

[sancho]

i know but ppl don't come here very often for discussion

That's why we have to focus on getting the discussions back to the sticky threads, that goes on for a long time, instead of starting numerous single threads with the same topic, but discussions only going on for a few days.

 

[proka89]

India Pushes Russia For Bigger Slice Of Fighter Program

India is expressing displeasure with Russia over New Delhi’s low level of participation in the joint development of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA), despite being an equal financial partner in the project and placing an order of more than US $30 billion for the new planes.
Indian Defence Minister A.K. Antony told his counterpart in Moscow during a visit this month that India’s share of the work should be 50 percent in development and production of the FGFA, which is still in the prototype stage, MoD sources said.

The MoD’s official news release referred to India’s wish for active involvement in FGFA. “Referring to FGFA and Multi-role Transport Aircraft (MTA) program, Defence Minister A.K. Antony said the two projects are significant because they symbolize going past the relationship of buyer-seller, and both sides must give their best at all phases of the execution of these two projects: design, development and production.”

India’s share of the FGFA development is only 15 percent. A diplomat from the Russian Embassy here said India’s share is limited by India’s capabilities in military aircraft research and industrial infrastructure. This level of participation will increase as the FGFA develops, the diplomat said.

India and Russia agreed in 2007 to jointly develop the FGFA for use by both air forces. In December 2010, Rosoboronexport, India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics and Russian aircraft-maker Sukhoi signed a preliminary design development contract worth $295 million. The final design, research and joint development contract, estimated to be more than $10 billion, has yet to be signed.

The delay in signing the final research-and-development contract is unlikely to slow down the program, which has four prototypes flying, the Russian diplomat said.

The Indian MoD source, however, said the delay in signing the contract has pushed the project into the next administration after the country’s general elections in early 2014. The source said a new government would honor all international commitments, but much would depend on India’s share of the work.

The Indian Air Force expects to order more than 200 of the twin-engine aircraft, which is based on Sukhoi’s T-50 PAK FA and will incorporate Indian Air Force specifications.

An Air Force official said the FGFA prototype has flown in Siberia this year, but there is very little involvement by the Indian Air Force in design and development. The 30-ton stealthy FGFA would be a swing-role fighter jet with advanced avionics, smart weapons and high-end mission computers.

The Air Force official said the date of entrance of the final version of FGFA has been postponed from 2020 to beyond 2022. The Indians were supposed to receive three variants of the aircraft in 2014, 2017 and 2019, with the final version entering service in 2020.

“India should not miss the opportunity of getting involved in a high-technology project like the FGFA,” said Nitin Mehta, an analyst based here.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/...ia-Pushes-Russia-Bigger-Slice-Fighter-Program

 

[Dash]

India’s share of the FGFA development is only 15 percent. A diplomat from the Russian Embassy here said India’s share is limited by India’s capabilities in military aircraft research and industrial infrastructure. This level of participation will increase as the FGFA develops, the diplomat said.

This is the most important point for us if we want to become an aviation giant...Lets see.

 

[he-man]

This is the most important point for us if we want to become an aviation giant...Lets see.

this is wishful thinking

what will india contribute in pakfa??
do we really believe we make even better composites than russia??
i for one don't

 

[Dash]

this is wishful thinking

what will india contribute in pakfa??
do we really believe we make even better composites than russia??
i for one don't

Composites?, I dont know if we are better but we are at par with anybody in composites. apart from fighters we have integrated composites to even missiles and rockets.
But I wasnt pointing at what you have highlighted, my suggestion was to improve our industrial infrastrcture so that we can get more work share.