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Then why would they say "formation"?

Probably the one that disappeared was flying in the wingman position in a two aircraft formation. The wingman position is beside and behind the leader. In this formation the leader may not be able to see his wingman.

By the time the leader turned his head to check, or call by radio, it may be too late to find his wingman is gone.

However, the disappearance is strange because if it is mechanical failure, the pilot should had time for Mayday call.
 
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NEW DELHI: Yet another frontline Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jet is believed to have crashed after it went missing around 60 km north-west of the Tezpur airbase in Assam, towards the Line of Actual Control with China on Tuesday morning. No trace of the twin-engine fighter or the two pilots was found till late in the night despite a major search and rescue mission being launched by the IAF.

The ill-fated "air dominance" Sukhoi, being flown by a squadron leader and flight lieutenant, had taken off in a two-aircraft formation sortie from the Tezpur airbase at about 10.30 am. "Radar and radio contact was lost with the missing Sukhoi at 11.10 am. Its last reported position was 60 km north-west of Tezpur," said an officer.

Though some reports held the Sukhoi could have gone down near the West Kameng district in Arunachal Pradesh, IAF officials said no trace of the missing fighter had been found in the densely-forested and mountainous terrain in the region. No signals from the locator beacons on board the jet were also detected.


IAF has already lost at least seven of the 240 Sukhoi-30MKIs, which are the latest and the most potent fighters in its combat fleet, till now. In all, India has contracted 272 twin-seat Sukhois from Russia for over $12 billion, with the bulk of them being "produced under licence" by Hindustan Aeronautics. Overall, the armed forces have lost over 60 aircraft and helicopters in crashes, which have killed over 80 people, just since 2011.


The Sukhoi fleet is now likely to be grounded for systematic precautionary checks before they can take to the skies again, like it happened after crashes in April 2009 and December 2011. Last year, then defence minister Manohar Parrikar had admitted to problems with the Sukhois, citing 69 incidents of technical glitches mainly revolving around the engines in the previous three years, as was reported by TOI.


There are still persisting doubts over serviceability of the Sukhoi fleet due to engine problems, shoddy maintenance, poor availability and management of spares, though the government now says it has improved to over 60% now from the earlier 52%. Incidentally, on March 17, India and Russia had inked two pacts for long-term maintenance support for the Sukhois.
 
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Where are the indian satellite who can trace a pin on Pakistan border these satlites are fail to search a su 30 mki ,then use google to search it

Indian Military Satellites are aware about everything and here the talk is about Classified Military Information.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/613162/sukhoi-fighter-jet-two-pilots.html

The plane went missing at 11:30 am, around 60 km north of the Tezpur IAF base from where it had taken off, said a defence spokesman and the deputy commissioner of Sonitpur district where the IAF station is located.

Defence public relations officer (Guwahati/Shillong), Lt. Col. Suneet Newton told PTI that the aircraft had lost radar and radio contact with the airbase.

Sonitpur district Deputy Commissioner Manoj Kumar Deka told reporters in Tezpur that the Air Force base had informed him that the Su-30 plane with two pilots had taken off from the airbase at 10.30 am for a regular sortie and lost contact with the IAF air traffic control over Dubia in nearby Gohpur.

The Air Force, after carrying out a search on its network, informed the deputy commissioner about the incident.
The DC said he then immediately alerted the neighbouring district administrations about the missing plane.
A search is on for the aircraft, he added.
 
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Thought it's night at that part of the world but plane is missing since 11.30 am morning. Atleast crash site should had been located from air (helicopter) by now regardless of the rough terrain. Very strange incident.
 
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The Chinese military is building number of air surveillance infrastructure along the Line of Actual Control in Tibet to keep a vigil on Indian military activities in Arunachal Pradesh, Sikkim and Ladakh region.

At the same time, number of air bases is all set to increase with 11 small air strips coming up along the LAC as part of China’s military infrastructure plan which will be completed by March 2015.

Currently China is operating its air surveillance and reconnaissance activities largely from Lanzhou and Chengdu military region depending upon the operational necessities but the plan to augment its aerial capacity closer to LAC may further alarm India in near future.

China is also building 7 new radio and radar monitoring stations under the 12th year plan, In fact, China already has five operational airfields at Gonggar, Pangta, Linchi, Hoping and Gar Gunsa in Tibet sector



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http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/wo...tibet-border-to-curb-infiltration/155310.html

China has deployed advanced radars and drones in its border areas under an integrated round-the-clock frontier monitoring system to check infiltration and drug trafficking on the Indian border in Tibet as well as in Xinjiang and Yunnan regions.

Many border areas have deployed an integrated frontier monitoring system consisting of advanced radars and unmanned aerial vehicles, Mao Weichen of the Southwestern Institute of Technology and Physics in Chengdu, who designed the integrated system said.

“Our system has been adopted by border defence units in Xinjiang, Tibet, Yunnan and many other regions to curb illegal border crossings and drug trafficking,” Ma was quoted as saying by state-run China Daily.

The institute is a subsidiary of China North Industries Group Corp, the country’s major manufacturer of land weapons.

The system integrates electro-optical devices, radars, communications equipment, command-and-control instruments and tools for image analysis, Mao said.

Cooperating with patrol teams, it is capable of performing round-the-clock, all-weather surveillance of illegal cross-border movements.

People trying to cross the border will be detected by the system, which then automatically notifies soldiers, he said, adding that the system can also be used in coastal policing if it is equipped with sea-scanning radar.

“Compared with traditional border monitoring networks that mainly depend on video surveillance, our system has a wider coverage and more deterrence thanks to the use of drones and acoustic weapons,” he said.
 
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The Chinese military is building number of air surveillance infrastructure along the Line of Actual Control in Tibet to keep a vigil on Indian military activities in Arunachal Pradesh, Sikkim and Ladakh region.

At the same time, number of air bases is all set to increase with 11 small air strips coming up along the LAC as part of China’s military infrastructure plan which will be completed by March 2015.

Currently China is operating its air surveillance and reconnaissance activities largely from Lanzhou and Chengdu military region depending upon the operational necessities but the plan to augment its aerial capacity closer to LAC may further alarm India in near future.

China is also building 7 new radio and radar monitoring stations under the 12th year plan, In fact, China already has five operational airfields at Gonggar, Pangta, Linchi, Hoping and Gar Gunsa in Tibet sector



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http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/wo...tibet-border-to-curb-infiltration/155310.html

China has deployed advanced radars and drones in its border areas under an integrated round-the-clock frontier monitoring system to check infiltration and drug trafficking on the Indian border in Tibet as well as in Xinjiang and Yunnan regions.

Many border areas have deployed an integrated frontier monitoring system consisting of advanced radars and unmanned aerial vehicles, Mao Weichen of the Southwestern Institute of Technology and Physics in Chengdu, who designed the integrated system said.

“Our system has been adopted by border defence units in Xinjiang, Tibet, Yunnan and many other regions to curb illegal border crossings and drug trafficking,” Ma was quoted as saying by state-run China Daily.

The institute is a subsidiary of China North Industries Group Corp, the country’s major manufacturer of land weapons.

The system integrates electro-optical devices, radars, communications equipment, command-and-control instruments and tools for image analysis, Mao said.

Cooperating with patrol teams, it is capable of performing round-the-clock, all-weather surveillance of illegal cross-border movements.

People trying to cross the border will be detected by the system, which then automatically notifies soldiers, he said, adding that the system can also be used in coastal policing if it is equipped with sea-scanning radar.

“Compared with traditional border monitoring networks that mainly depend on video surveillance, our system has a wider coverage and more deterrence thanks to the use of drones and acoustic weapons,” he said.
Why are you keep posting these with nothing to do with the missing Su-30MKI ?

The undestructable black box should have tell the search people its location. Why not receive its signal ?
So weird.
 
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Why are you keep posting these with nothing to do with the missing Su-30MKI ?

All these things have to do , you are debating with an Indian Citizen not with European Citizen who misuse Survelliance System.

Why you want Free ki Knowledge , do you have pair of legs ?
 
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Probably the one that disappeared was flying in the wingman position in a two aircraft formation. The wingman position is beside and behind the leader. In this formation the leader may not be able to see his wingman.

By the time the leader turned his head to check, or call by radio, it may be too late to find his wingman is gone.

However, the disappearance is strange because if it is mechanical failure, the pilot should had time for Mayday call.
I strongly recommend the rear pilot's seat be installed backwards.
Why are you keep posting these with nothing to do with the missing Su-30MKI ?

The undestructable black box should have tell the search people its location. Why not receive its signal ?
So weird.
maybe he wants to call China military and ask: dude, where did our plane fall off on your radar?
 
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Since January 2012 till today there have 28 crashes of IAF fighter jets whereas PAF has seen 21 fighter jet crashes i.e. a ratio of 1.33:1.
Now taking into consideration the fact the IAF is 1.8 to 2.0x the size of PAF, PAFs crash rate is significantly worse than IAF's.

In helicopter department too, January 2012 onwards Indian military saw 12 write offs & 5 damaged whereas Pakistan whose helo fleet despite being atleast 1.8x smaller saw 10 write offs(incl 1 in Congo) & 5 damaged in same period i.e. a crash ratio of 1.20:1 which means in this department too, Pakistan crash rate is much worse.

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=AP

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=VT
Only one JF17 crashed in those 21 loses.
Rest are all obsolete mirages and Mushaw propller based trainers.

care to share the number 4th gen aircraft indian losses of Su30Mki and Mig29UB from the 28 indian loses will you please?

Or just Playing with numbers the way it pelases you policy?
 
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All these things have to do , you are debating with an Indian Citizen not with European Citizen who misuse Survelliance System.

Why you want Free ki Knowledge , do you have pair of legs ?
I am not debate with anyone.
All i did is just to express my opinion about the reason of missing.
 
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Nobody knows how many J-10 crashed, officially it is 2 I think. Not sure how they get 10, but since you can add it openly, I guess I can add it to 20 if it makes the Indian feel better.

Why can't they just accept the fact that the pilots are poorly trained and the plane poorly maintained. Improve it and get better, why this kinda face saving attitude, if you are bad, improve it.
At least 9-10 J-10 crashes have been recorded.
Anyways our crash rate is far less than PAFs, and as long as that continues we don't care.

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?AcType=J10

Only one JF17 crashed in those 21 loses.
Rest are all obsolete mirages and Mushaw propller based trainers.

care to share the number 4th gen aircraft indian losses of Su30Mki and Mig29UB from the 28 indian loses will you please?

Or just Playing with numbers the way it pelases you policy?
Mushshaks are not included in the 21 figure, only fighter jets are.
 
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