Suddenly, the Chinese Threat to Australia Seems Very Real

[KungFuLee]

NYTimes... LOL

Maybe NYTimes is a good newspaper... but definitely not when it comes to news about China.

Those aren't news about China, those are news about Australia....

In fact, that story was broke by Channel 9 Current Affair, and 60 Minutes. NY Time just re-reporting it.

 

[beijingwalker]

commies adopted capitalism, so it doesnt matter if commie was democratic or not, secondly cheap labour. Denying west's role in chinese development is living in denial, chinese used to ride cycles before western investment.

regards

We didn't develop any role of international investment, but if this is the deciding factor, how come other developing countries , including yours, didn't develop this fast? many have labor cost much lower than China's.

 

[KungFuLee]

When a story is too crazy to be true, it usually is.

Just like the chip hack story in Oct last year. How did that turn out ?

So you are saying China did not have spy and did not try to influence foreign power?

Because I can tell you this, every country did that. At this day and age, information is king, and what better than getting latest information at a foreign country that can potentially benefit you? That's being involve in the making of such information.

And being a democratic system, it is very easy to infiltrate into the system by installing candidate. I don't know how "Crazy" do you think this is, but it could be by any chance true. And this is not something not imaginable

 

[W.11]

We didn't develop any role of international investment, but if this is the deciding factor, how come other developing countries , including yours, didn't develop this fast? many have labor cost much lower than China's.

political instability and establishment hijacking and overtaking govts and international manipulation due to proximity with afghanistan, pakistan was in a much better position than east asia in the 60s, pakistan lost because of bhutto's nationalization policies as well.

as far as india is concerned, it had socialist economy till 1990s, china had developed capitalism in the 70s.

regards

 

[beijingwalker]

political instability and establishment hijacking and overtaking govts and international manipulation due to proximity with afghanistan, pakistan was in a much better position than east asia in the 60s, pakistan lost because of bhutto's nationalization policies as well.

as far as india is concerned, it had socialist economy till 1990s, china had developed capitalism in the 70s.

regards

I mean all the developing world, many of them have close relations with the west, not just India and Pakistan, how come they don't develop like China did? If western investments are the deciding factor for a country's development.

 

[Dungeness]

political instability and establishment hijacking and overtaking govts and international manipulation due to proximity with afghanistan, pakistan was in a much better position than east asia in the 60s, pakistan lost because of bhutto's nationalization policies as well.

as far as india is concerned, it had socialist economy till 1990s, china had developed capitalism in the 70s.

regards

Foreign investment flows to countries with political stability, no-nonsense government, hard working populace. It's no China's fault to have all these. So it is Chinese themselves who made China what it is today. Finding excuse for being a failed country is easy, but it is lot of harder to make your own country a preferred foreign investment destination, even with much cheaper labor.


On Topic:

Wang Liqiang: Beijing bit player at best as cloak-and-dagger claims fall away

 

[maximuswarrior]

The white man is trying every trick in the book, but he stands no chance today. The white man was united back in the day to colonize and wipe natives. Those days are over.

 

[Dungeness]

Now who is the fool?


Intelligence community is “ dubious” that high profile defector Wang Liqiang is a Chinese spy | Sky News Australia

28/11/2019|5min


According to senior members of the Australian Intelligence community it is “highly dubious” that Wang Liqiang, who claimed he was a high-level Chinese spy during a 60 Minutes interview, was “major player in the espionage space,” according to Sky News host Sharri Markson. According to advice given to the Morrison government's National Security Committee of Cabinet on Tuesday, Wang may have only been engaged in low level work, which would be of little use to Australia’s security agencies. The comments come after the Australian Federal Police acknowledged it has launched a formal investigation into Wang's claims Chinese intelligence services attempted to interfere with the recent Australian election.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Now who is the fool?


Intelligence community is “ dubious” that high profile defector Wang Liqiang is a Chinese spy | Sky News Australia

28/11/2019|5min


According to senior members of the Australian Intelligence community it is “highly dubious” that Wang Liqiang, who claimed he was a high-level Chinese spy during a 60 Minutes interview, was “major player in the espionage space,” according to Sky News host Sharri Markson. According to advice given to the Morrison government's National Security Committee of Cabinet on Tuesday, Wang may have only been engaged in low level work, which would be of little use to Australia’s security agencies. The comments come after the Australian Federal Police acknowledged it has launched a formal investigation into Wang's claims Chinese intelligence services attempted to interfere with the recent Australian election.

They are desperate and clutching at straws.

China is a different beast. It is highly advanced, intellectual and for the most part untouched by white invading forces. It is a big challange for the white colonizers. The white colonizers invaded and looted most areas of the planet. The white colonizers managed to subdue and conquer many nations. They transformed their thinking and identity. There are very few places they did not manage to turn into their colony. China is one such place. The white man feels insecure with regards to China. China is challenging the white hemegony and there is little the white man can do about it. China is an enigma and the white man is clueless.

 

[W.11]

Foreign investment flows to countries with political stability, no-nonsense government, hard working populace. It's no China's fault to have all these.

where am i saying its china's fault, try to comprehend what im saying, japan for instance didn't need any foreign player, they developed their own industry and manufacturing, china got gifted by the west, it takes more to develop oneself independently and less to develop using foreign help. China developed its infrastructure because of mass flow of western help.

regards

 

[Georg]

How come you didn't develop, China is never the west's favorite, especially after 1989, how come the rest of the developing world didn't develop this fast?

if u start at zerro u grow fast long time..if u are close to 100 the grow is getting very slow

the world pumped trillions into China... funny the bjing trolls always ignore the fact... you need kick start to grow... if you dont get it it akes a long time

 

[beijingwalker]

if u start at zerro u grow fast long time..if u are close to 100 the grow is getting very slow

the world pumped trillions into China... funny the bjing trolls always ignore the fact... you need kick start to grow... if you dont get it it akes a long time

China started the same level with all other developing countries, and China is a huge country, that's why the even western politicians and economists call China's fast development a miracle and unprecedented in the whole human history, the troll who denies this fact is you.

 

[maximuswarrior]

if u start at zerro u grow fast long time..if u are close to 100 the grow is getting very slow

the world pumped trillions into China... funny the bjing trolls always ignore the fact... you need kick start to grow... if you dont get it it akes a long time

LOL even if you get huge cash injection it requires serious planning and skills to do what China did. Look at your ally India who you helped with every means possible. It is a failed project that is stagnating like a house of cards falling apart.

Just admit it white Nazi boy. China is a miracle.

 

[Nan Yang]

So you are saying China did not have spy and did not try to influence foreign power?

Because I can tell you this, every country did that. At this day and age, information is king, and what better than getting latest information at a foreign country that can potentially benefit you? That's being involve in the making of such information.

And being a democratic system, it is very easy to infiltrate into the system by installing candidate. I don't know how "Crazy" do you think this is, but it could be by any chance true. And this is not something not imaginable

I disagree. I'm old enough to know what's going on. This is exactly what happened 20 years ago with the "all Chinese are spies" Cox report. How did that turn out. People have short memories. All these fear mongering. Right wing talk show calling for the boycott of all things Chinese including American Chinese restaurants. You probably too young to know what happened to Wen ho Lee. Because of all these China phobia, he was arrested with trump up charges in a kangaroo court for spying for China and spend 11 months in solidarity confinement. How did that turn out.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

If true they are doing same what US have done to others.

You are confusing spying for the military and state secrets with trying to install spies as Members of Parliament in other countries