Submarine Group 7 Strengthens Ties with the Indonesian Submarine Force

[Kamil_baku]

Missile tech for F-35 ... LOL, keep ur assembly line of F-16 + A-129 + F-35 components, don't easily call American design is urs.

When China sell domestic weapons into ur neighours, u r busying copy West tech & Assemble their weapons like: America F-16, Italy A-129, Korea K-9 SPG, China B611 IRBM, China WS-1 MLRS, Korea+Germany Tank, Amercia FFG, Germany sub.

Well, i simply gave you an example about the missile.. from engine to all technologies, it was built by Turkey. Turkey is the 3rd country made network enabled army technologies by its own. I dont really want to be a teacher today, especially, teaching CHinese who are expert on copying exams, well, basically everything..

This is the Turkish helicopter, now show any video of Z-10 that can be this maneuver.. let me guess, you will find tons of other excuses..
we should have 18+ in this forum, especially for Chinese..

 

[cnleio]

Turkey is the 3rd country made network enabled army technologies by its own. I dont really want to be a teacher today, especially, teaching CHinese who are expert on copying exams, well, basically everything..

we should have 18+ in this forum, especially for Chinese.

LOL ... what i knew here, in the world there'r only Top3 who each launched 20x global position &navigation &communication satellites to the space: 1. U.S's "GPS" satellites chain 2. China's "BeiDou" satellites chain 3. Russia's "GLONASS" satellites chain

Where is Turkey ??? just google them... without domestic satellites chain support C41SR data links, maybe u used Wifi to make network enabled army technologies by urself ...

BTW American GPS signal is not safe, the RQ-170 drone landing in Iran is a good example, someone knew how to jamming it.

This is the Turkish helicopter, now show any video of Z-10 that can be this maneuver.. let me guess, you will find tons of other excuses..

This is the China WZ-10 armed helicopter, watch carefully !!!

I don't wanna teach u something, just tell the truth here. And China will like to sell FD-2000 (HQ-9 export version) to Turkey, China will like to launch Turkey satellite by CZ-series Rockets again (Why i say again ?), China also like to sell S-20 subs to replace ur 20-year old 209-1400 sub ... learn more in PDF, buddy.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Why this guy (Viet) is so sensitive...................

Because He believes that Vietnam is "supowa."

 

[Kamil_baku]

LOL ... what i knew here, in the world there'r only Top3 who each launched 20x global position &navigation &communication satellites to the space: 1. U.S's "GPS" satellites chain 2. China's "BeiDou" satellites chain 3. Russia's "GLONASS" satellites chain

Where is Turkey ??? just google them... without domestic satellites chain support C41SR data links, maybe u used Wifi to make network enabled army technologies by urself ...

BTW American GPS signal is not safe, the RQ-170 drone landing in Iran is a good example, someone knew how to jamming it.


This is the China WZ-10 armed helicopter, watch carefully !!!
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I don't wanna teach u something, just tell the truth here. And China will like to sell FD-2000 (HQ-9 export version) to Turkey, China will like to launch Turkey satellite by CZ-series Rockets again (Why i say again ?), China also like to sell S-20 subs to replace ur 20-year old 209-1400 sub ... learn more in PDF, buddy.

COngratulation!! hshshsh you won a dish washer machine from us..
you video editing skills impressed me.. Show me a real fu**ing video.. not a fast tracked edited picture..
Its not really hard to do it, but you just have to spend to much money to lunch multiple satelites to make a system so they can provide you exact location..
If its that good, why dont CHine use its GPS system in its smartphones? in its car brands? why they dont want global companies to pay them for that? Because, as your 5th generation fighter, everything perfect, but nobody have seen it yet.. @
do you really believe you are more developed than Japan in technology?
you cant even produce your own UAV engine,
China's AVIC to buy German aircraft engine maker Thielert| Reuters
Well im sure CHine show it in your TV that, THANKS TOGREAT LEADER AND GREAT NATION, CHINE ACHIEVED JET TECHNOLOGY! WOW WOW WOW!!

 

[cnleio]

COngratulation!! hshshsh you won a dish washer machine from us..
you video editing skills impressed me.. Show me a real fu**ing video.. not a fast tracked edited picture..
Its not really hard to do it, but you just have to spend to much money to lunch multiple satelites to make a system so they can provide you exact location..
If its that good, why dont CHine use its GPS system in its smartphones? in its car brands? why they dont want global companies to pay them for that? Because, as your 5th generation fighter, everything perfect, but nobody have seen it yet.. @
do you really believe you are more developed than Japan in technology?
you cant even produce your own UAV engine,
China's AVIC to buy German aircraft engine maker Thielert| Reuters
Well im sure CHine show it in your TV that, THANKS TOGREAT LEADER AND GREAT NATION, CHINE ACHIEVED JET TECHNOLOGY! WOW WOW WOW!!

First, send the word back ...

let me guess, you will find tons of other excuses..

Second, i just tell u years ago PLA Army Tanks + Armoured vehicles, PLAAF Fighters + Helicopters, PLAN warships all install the "BeiDou" satellite receiver. Civil-level goods we widely used GPS coz cost of GPS chip & receiver is cheap enough, but military-level PLA widely equip domestic "BeiDou" system for security & accuracy.

Third, now China used "BeiDou" system in our smartphones.
China mobile phones to adopt Beidou navigation system
China aims for mobile phone adoption of Beidou navigation

 

[Kamil_baku]

First, send the word back ...



Second, i just tell u years ago PLA Army Tanks + Armoured vehicles, PLAAF Fighters + Helicopters, PLAN warships all install the "BeiDou" satellite receiver. Civil-level goods we widely used GPS coz cost of GPS chip & receiver is cheap enough, but military-level PLA widely equip domestic "BeiDou" system for security & accuracy.
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Third, now China used "BeiDou" system in our smartphones.
China mobile phones to adopt Beidou navigation system
China aims for mobile phone adoption of Beidou navigation
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Well, seems like the conversation about helicopter and the missile is over. the kid still struggling to find an answer.. poor guy!
Let me first see the GPS in the mobile system, then i will give you mark.. People aim to become millioner when they sleep, but the reality is different when the alarm remind him in the morning that he can not be late to the work..
Any country use these technologies you show with picture. its new generation communication devices. show me any proof that it actually use CHinese made GPS???
dude, im out, i dont really want to go down to your level. I would suggest you to use your english to update your military knowledge instead of being cocky in this form..

 

[cnleio]

Well, seems like the conversation about helicopter and the missile is over. the kid still struggling to find an answer.. poor guy!
Let me first see the GPS in the mobile system, then i will give you mark.. People aim to become millioner when they sleep, but the reality is different when the alarm remind him in the morning that he can not be late to the work..
Any country use these technologies you show with picture. its new generation communication devices. show me any proof that it actually use CHinese made GPS???
dude, im out, i dont really want to go down to your level. I would suggest you to use your english to update your military knowledge instead of being cocky in this form..

I don't wanna waste my time too ... when next time u call urself world 3rd blablabla ... at least create a carrier-rocket to launch ur satellites into the space first ! At the beginning try to learn how to google or search Wiki.com, before leave tons of other b@llsh!t here.

 

[Kamil_baku]

I don't wanna waste my time too ... when next time u call urself world 3rd blablabla ... at least create a carrier-rocket to launch ur satellites into the space first ! At the beginning try to learn how to google or search Wiki.com, before leave tons of other b@llsh!t here.

we will have one by 2023.. CHine obviously got much more money, bigger economy and population. true is true!! but the problem about CHinese users here, they think the whole world is just got out from stone age.. you guys should learn how to respect each other in this forum. i still cant really understand, why did you just jump into the conversation(which is about Indonesian Navy) and talk about Turkish defence @@@
Good luck to you guys... seems like i have to teach ethics and give even certificates..

 

[Beast]

we will have one by 2023.. CHine obviously got much more money, bigger economy and population. true is true!! but the problem about CHinese users here, they think the whole world is just got out from stone age.. you guys should learn how to respect each other in this forum. i still cant really understand, why did you just jump into the conversation(which is about Indonesian Navy) and talk about Turkish defence @@@
Good luck to you guys... seems like i have to teach ethics and give even certificates..

First of all, it you didn't show respect abt others. Now you twist it and smear others?
what a cheap shot!

 

[cnleio]

we will have one by 2023.. CHine obviously got much more money, bigger economy and population. true is true!! but the problem about CHinese users here, they think the whole world is just got out from stone age.. you guys should learn how to respect each other in this forum. i still cant really understand, why did you just jump into the conversation(which is about Indonesian Navy) and talk about Turkish defence @@@
Good luck to you guys... seems like i have to teach ethics and give even certificates..

Nice dream to 2023 ... 2012 news here, we finished the system years ago ... to 2020 year, China BeiDou singal will cover whole earth including Turkey lands. "BeiDou" will really become the world 2nd after U.S GPS in 2020.

Save ur tons of other excuses to urself, funny indeed !

BBC- China GPS rival Beidou starts offering navigation data
Beidou system starts service in Asia-Pacific
2012_China launches 16th Beidou-2 satellite
China BeiDou official website

 

[Kamil_baku]

Turkey, Turkey, Turkey ... u forget bought China B611 IRBM, WS-1 MLRS and HQ-9 deal.
Good luck to new superpower.

First of all, it you didn't show respect abt others. Now you twist it and smear others?
what a cheap shot!

haha there is a Chinese union over here.. heyyy brothers, come help me, there is a Turk here, i cannot answer his questions..
be a man first, one vs one! the rest, go to play your video games!!
it will only take you to click on one previous page to see this comment. In real life, you would convince me probably, but the technology shows the opposite.
I mention it one more time. i have no issues with CHinese, i had even a CHinese GF(i would recommend not to push me to change my direction...). If you want professional conversation, you are welcome, bring your support reasons and lets talk about.
To make GPS system working, as it mention. you need at least 35 satellites. You will only have it by 2020..
As i know, Turkey use its own INS(Inertial Navigation System) in its missiles, UAV or other platforms to mitigate the risk in case USA close its GPS system.
just minutes before, you said you can use your GPS and now mentioning 2020... i wonder what you smoke there.. as i said before, it more about the financial thing, which you will waste 10th of billions dollar which might be used for any other project.. For Turkey, we also dont believe the WEST that much to be honest, but we do it step by step.. We also have our space road map.. follow this.. Turkish Space Programs | Page 28 Turkey plan also its own rocket and launcher system by that time. But, we would rather use those money on TF-2000 AAW frigate, 5th generation TF-X project, ALtay Tank, Turkish AIP SUbmarine, engine and so on...

 

[Arkodm V]

Its anyone never think or be suspucius... why we already built 5 "garage" at many place like Palu, sumba,.. etc... (with a "big capacity" for our sub). If we just operate "two old" sub ??? Why we always lie about our power even many country has know even send their protes letter to our goverment (japan and aust minister last year) if they know we already operate some kilo class (636 project) ? Even pakistan navy know that we have sold our last 2 cakra class sub to them for many years ago.

 

[Aepsilons]

Its anyone never think or be suspucius... why we already built 5 "garage" at many place like Palu, sumba,.. etc... (with a "big capacity" for our sub). If we just operate "two old" sub ??? Why we always lie about our power even many country has know even send their protes letter to our goverment (japan and aust minister last year) if they know we already operate some kilo class (636 project) ? Even pakistan navy know that we have sold our last 2 cakra class sub to them for many years ago.

Indonesia , as an archipelagic state, must increase the size of her navy. Whether that is done publicly or secretly through black budget, it must be done.

 

[Bhayangkara]

Its anyone never think or be suspucius... why we already built 5 "garage" at many place like Palu, sumba,.. etc... (with a "big capacity" for our sub). If we just operate "two old" sub ??? Why we always lie about our power even many country has know even send their protes letter to our goverment (japan and aust minister last year) if they know we already operate some kilo class (636 project) ? Even pakistan navy know that we have sold our last 2 cakra class sub to them for many years ago.

But honestly, we just have two submarines 401 and 402 in our inventory. Whether we like it or not, but that's the reality.. Sorry mate, for a while we should to be patient.

Indonesia , as an archipelagic state, must increase the size of her navy. Whether that is done publicly or secretly through black budget, it must be done.

Yes indeed, No matter it is classified by using black budget or something like that, most important thing for us is our country sovereignty.. And when we talk about this secret things, for me its like to discuss a mythical story which never been proved..

 

[Tanu90]

But honestly, we just have two submarines 401 and 402 in our inventory. Whether we like it or not, but that's the reality.. Sorry mate, for a while we should to be patient.


Yes indeed, No matter it is classified by using black budget or something like that, most important thing for us is our country sovereignty.. And when we talk about this secret things, for me its like to discuss a mythical story which never been proved..

hope we'll have some more in the future. we surely need that.