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Subhash Kumar Shan, a top-ranking Hizbul Mujahideen commander

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No you didn't got my point by the way. Wani took arm against you and you shot him at head but what was Mahatmas's fault? He was innocent i think but he had same fate.

Sir, you also didn't got my point.
Mahatma Gandhi was innocent, godse did a crime by killing gandhi and he was served suitable punishment for his crime.

India is a democracy where Constitution is supreme. India is strengthened by its institutions and these institutions draw their power from the constitution.

And as far as killing militants is concerned, it's the responsibility of concerned institution to take care of that. A civilian like me or anybody else is not allowed to pick up arms to neutralize terrorist.

And whenever someone picks up arm against India in order to divide India, then he or she is provided with two choices either to surrender or to meet the Creator.
 
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Good piece of info i didn't knew this news...
 
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Sir, you also didn't got my point.
Mahatma Gandhi was innocent, godse did a crime by killing gandhi and he was served suitable punishment for his crime.

India is a democracy where Constitution is supreme. India is strengthened by its institutions and these institutions draw their power from the constitution.

And as far as killing militants is concerned, it's the responsibility of concerned institution to take care of that. A civilian like me or anybody else is not allowed to pick up arms to neutralize terrorist.

And whenever someone picks up arm against India in order to divide India, then he or she is provided with two choices either to surrender or to meet the Creator.


Kashmir is an internationally recognized disputed territory and the UN recognizes the Kashmiris' right to self-determination; something the so called world's largest democracy stubbornly denies

Kashmir insurgency is legitimate
 
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Well done IA. No matter what religion he is from. A terrorist is a terrorist. And should he treated like one.
 
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Sir, you also didn't got my point.
Mahatma Gandhi was innocent, godse did a crime by killing gandhi and he was served suitable punishment for his crime.

India is a democracy where Constitution is supreme. India is strengthened by its institutions and these institutions draw their power from the constitution.

And as far as killing militants is concerned, it's the responsibility of concerned institution to take care of that. A civilian like me or anybody else is not allowed to pick up arms to neutralize terrorist.

And whenever someone picks up arm against India in order to divide India, then he or she is provided with two choices either to surrender or to meet the Creator.
You are wrong again and you words cannot prove your claims. Kashmir is not a part of India it is a disputed territory.
You kill those people who are against your policies based on extremism and supremacy. Sikhs, Kashmiri muslims and Dalits are all effected due to it.
 
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Change your user name and profile pic, Indian

El Che's ideology promotes exporting revolution to any country/state whose government is oppressive and doesn't enjoy popular support.

Che was a secular humanist

This man Subhash Kumar was a true revolutionary

And he proved that Humanity is Above religion

Red Salute to him

Lal Salam
Che was a communist. And true communists are atheists who do not believe in religion or God. Kashimiris are not oppressed, they enjoy more rights than normal Indians. The very basis of Pakistan is religion and same is the basis of religion. To be free from a Hindu India. This is evident from his alias muslim names instead of his hindu name. So religion is paramount in the Kashmiri struggle. This man was a fool. You may agree or not, religion is the core reason for Kashmir dispute. Kashmiris are well taken care of, given more rights than other Indians and any separatist movement based on religious sentiment should be dealt with impunity like Che did.

May the people realize the truth and free themselves from the hoax called religion and God.

Lal Salam
 
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Che was a communist. And communists are atheists who do not believe in religion or God. The very basis of Pakistan is religion and same is the basis of religion. To be free from a Hindu India. You may agree or not, religion is the core reason for Kashmir dispute. Kashmiris are well taken care of, given more rights than other Indians and any separatist movement based on religious sentiment should be dealt with impunity like Che did.

May the people realize the truth and free themselves from the hoax called religion and God.

Lal Salam

Che was a hardliner Marxist-Leninist. He was a revolutionary. His fight was against oppressive regimes, not religion or God

And the use of the word communism in a religious context actually predates the use of the term to describe "atheistic" communism ... Theistic Socialists generally do not agree with the anti-religious views held by "atheistic" Marxists, but do agree with many of the economic and existential aspects of Marxist theory ..

"Atheistic" Socialism is Bolshevism ... Christian Socialism or Islamic Socialism are examples of "Theistic" Socialism .

Even Bolshevism is not atheistic at heart

The famous Russian Religious Philosopher Nikolai Alexandrovich Berdyaev wrote an article in 1917 (titled The Religious Foundations of Bolshevism) :

Such a setting of theme might evoke astonishment. What relationship has Bolshevism to religion? The Bolsheviks, just like the overwhelming majority of the Social Democrats, -- are materialists, positivists, atheists, foreign to them is every religious interest, and they mock at any religious setting of themes. Everyone tends to say, that Bolshevism is a phenomenon totally non-religious and anti-religious. All this is indeed so, if we stay at the surface and regard as conclusive those word formulas, in which people tend to cloak their consciousness. But I think, that the Bolsheviks themself, as so often transpires, know not the final truth about themself, do not perceive, of what sort of spirit they are. To recognise about them a final truth, to recognise, of what sort of spirit they are, is possible only for people of a religious consciousness, endowed with a religious criterion of distinction. And here, I am wont to say, that Russian Bolshevism -- is the manifestation of a religious order, in it are active certain ultimately religious energies, if by religious energy be understood not only that, oriented towards God. A religious substitute, an inverted religion, a pseudo-religion -- is indeed likewise the manifestation of a religious order, in it there is its own absoluteness, its own final end, its own all-encompassing aspect, its own pseudo and phantasmic plenitude ....



Bertrand Russell said :"Communism does not oppose religion. It merely opposes the Christian religion, just as Mohammedanism does"

and "Among religions, Bolshevism is to be reckoned with Mohammedanism rather than with Christianity and Buddhism. Christianity and Buddhism are primarily personal religions, with mystical doctrines and a love of contemplation. Mohammedanism and Bolshevism are practical, social, unspiritual, concerned to win the empire of the world.’"


Indeed, the Bolsheviks welcomed left wing Muslims into the communist parties (CPs). The Bolshevik leader Leon Trotsky noted in 1923 that in some former colonies as many as 15 percent of CP members were believers in Islam. He called them the 'raw revolutionary recruits who come knocking on our door'. In parts of Central Asia, Muslim membership was as high as 70 percent.

Sacred Islamic monuments, books and objects looted by the tsars were returned to the mosques. Friday - the day of Muslim celebration - was declared to be the legal day of rest throughout Central Asia. A parallel court system was created in 1921, with Islamic courts administering justice in accordance with sharia laws. The aim was for people to have a choice between religious and revolutionary justice. A special Sharia Commission was established in the Soviet Commissariat of Justice.

A parallel education system was also established. In 1922 rights to certain waqf (Islamic) properties were restored to Muslim administration, with the proviso that they were used for education. As a result, the system of madrassahs - religious schools - was extensive. In 1925 there were 1,500 madrassahs with 45,000 students in the Caucasus state of Dagestan, as opposed to just 183 state schools.

The Bolsheviks took a very different approach to Orthodox Christianity, the religion of the brutal Russian colonists and missionaries. Party policy in Central Asia, endorsed by Moscow, stated that 'freedom from religious prejudice' was a requirement for Russians only. So in 1922 over 1,500 Russians were kicked out of the Turkestan CP because of their religious convictions, but not a single Turkestani. Bolsheviks were fierce enemies of Russian orthodox church . They killed clergy in large numbers and confiscated their properties ...


Christians started seeing Bolshevism as an anti-christ "religion" (Just like Islam) , Bolsheviks made alliances with Muslims . Majority of Muslim leaders supported the soviets, convinced that Soviet power meant religious liberty. There was serious discussion among Muslims of the similarity of Islamic values to socialist principles. Popular slogans of the time included: 'Long live Soviet power, long live the sharia!'; 'Religion, freedom and national independence!' Supporters of 'Islamic socialism' .... !!

However , From the mid-1920s the Stalinists began planning an all-out attack on Islam under the banner of women's rights. The slogan of the campaign was khudzhum - which means storming or assault. At mass meetings women were called upon to unveil. It was a million miles from Lenin's instruction that 'we are absolutely opposed to giving offence to religious conviction'.




Allama Muhammad Iqbal was a great admirer of Karl Marx .. He writes : Marx the author of Das Capital ; being one of the children's of Abraham is also a Messenger but without Gabriel i.e. Divine Revelation .. Iqbal lauded Lenin , Marx and communism ...

Marx started his writing career as a poet, while Iqbal’s first book was on economics Ilm-al-Iqtisad ... Marx’s criticism of right-wing economists in his books Holy Family, The German Ideology, Poverty of Philosophy and Das Capital closely resembles the tone and tenor of Iqbal’s diatribes against exploiters, capitalists and the preachers of false gods. According to Engels, Marx “discovered the special law of motion governing the present-day capitalist mode of production and the bourgeois society that this mode of production has created. The discovery of surplus value suddenly threw light on the problem, in trying to solve which, all previous investigations of both right-wing economists and socialist critics, had been groping in the dark.”

Iqbal’s view on surplus labor closely follows that of Marx. He says in Ilm-al-Iqtisad: “If the wealth of the landlord is not the result of personal effort, then his property is unjust. In view of this fact some scholars maintain that this injustice is produced by the private ownership which is harmful to the national interest. Accordingly, land is not the property of a particular individual and should be nationalized.” Similarly, “the profit which in the present conditions goes into the pocket of the capitalist should accrue to labor. And, increased productivity which is the fruit of labor should entirely benefit labor, and capitalists have no claim over it.”

Iqbal assails right-wing economists who conceal the predatory nature of capitalism and exploit science to serve the interests of the ruling class.

According to Iqbal: “All lines of Muslim thought converge on a dynamic concept of the universe.” The dialectics of this concept is the essence of Marxian philosophy, which regards nature in constant motion and evolution, and studies it in the context of its interconnectedness, constant transformation and development. ,,

Iqbal has criticized Marx only for "not being able to realize God/creator" , Iqbal was against "atheistic" Socialism .. He was a proponent of "Islamic" Socialism ...





In his Chittagong 1948 broadcast, the Governor General (i.e. Muhammad Ali Jinnah) espoused Islamic Socialism (Burke, 2007, pp.166).


Before him Allama Iqbal had said God plus Bolshevism is Islam.


Hasrat Mohani used the term Islamic Communism.


Liaquat Ali Khan called Islamic Socialism the state policy of Pakistan (Symonds, 1976, pp.182).


Fatimah Jinnah with reference to her brother’s Chittagong speech advocated Islamic Socialism (Khan,1976, pp. 25, 26).

Dr. Muhammad Ali Siddiqui is witness that the Raja of Mahmudabad favored Islamic Socialism, in Katrak Hall, Karachi in 1967 (Siddiqui, 1998, pp.18)


Addressing workers in the Calcutta of 1943 , Jinnah said:

"Why am I turning my blood into water, for the rich, for the capitalist? No, for you, the poor people. There are so many places where one cannot get a square meal a day. Is that Pakistan? If that is Pakistan I would not want it."

Jinnah said :

"You are only voicing my sentiments and the sentiments of millions of Musalmans when you say that Pakistan should be based on sure foundations of social justice and Islamic socialism which emphasizes equality and brother-hood of man."

In his speech at the Frontier Muslim League Conference on 21-11-1945 he said:

"We have to fight a double-edged battle, one against the Hindu Congress and the other against British Imperialists, both of them being capitalists ... "




This, however, is another debate, and is beyond the scope of this thread
 
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No, not like gandhi but like wani.

You need to read my post again. I have clearly stated that anyone who takes up arms and tries to divide India will meet the same fate.

Did Mahatma took up arms against India, Did mahatma tried to divide India?



Rather than Moodi's strategy to destroy India by retaliatory Atom Bomb attack, it is time to kill him to save india. I hope this terrorist shall be killed by his own guards like Indrah Gandhi
 
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Israeli minds at work!
Sabotaging support by muslim countries on Kashmir cause.
Converting Kashmiri freedom struggle into general terrorist actions.
Defacing Kashmir cause.
Paving the path of inclusion of Hindus in large quantity into Mujahideen.


We dont eat grass my dear Indian military fellows and their Israeli military advisers.
 
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This shows that we don't discriminate between Hindus and Muslim.

The funda is simple :

"You sign your death warrant the day you decide to take up arms against India and it doesn't matter whether the person taking up arms is hindu or muslim.". :sniper:
But am still alive:chilli::chilli::chilli:
 
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This shows that we don't discriminate between Hindus and Muslim.

The funda is simple :

"You sign your death warrant the day you decide to take up arms against India and it doesn't matter whether the person taking up arms is hindu or muslim.". :sniper:

It also shows that the Hindu card is not working..people are loyal to their land..the panduits were cowards who ran away...the native will fight rather than flight...and it also give legitimacy to kashmir freedom struggle as an indigenous movement...and not just an Islamic insurgency...
 
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No you didn't got my point by the way. Wani took arm against you and you shot him at head but what was Mahatmas's fault? He was innocent i think but he had same fate.
Gandhi was British agent and was brought from South Africa by British to sabotage Indian freedom struggle.
 
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