SU30mki vs F16C/D,MIG29 vs f16A/B MLU,MIRAGE2000 vs jf17

[Hayreddin]

please be realistic .

compare
SU30 MKI VS F16 C/D
MIG29 VS F16 A/B MLU
MIRAGE 2000 VS JF 17 THUNDER FIGHTER

 

[Hayreddin]

 

[Hayreddin]

General characteristics OF SU30 MKI

* Crew: 2
* Length: 21.935 m (72.97 ft)
* Wingspan: 14.7 m (48.2 ft)
* Height: 6.36 m (20.85 ft)
* Wing area: 62.0 m² (667 ft²)
* Empty weight: 18,400 kg [1] (40,565 lb)
* Loaded weight: 24,900 kg (54,895 lb)
* Max takeoff weight: 38,800 kg (85,600 lb)
* Powerplant: 2× Lyulka AL-31FP turbofans with thrust vectoring, 131 kN (29,449 lbf) each

Performance

* Maximum speed: Mach 2.35 (2,500 km/h) at 11,000 m (36,000 ft)
* Range: 5,000 km (2,700 nmi) at altitude; (1,270 km, 690 nmi near ground level)(With Internal Fuel Tank)
* Service ceiling: 17,300 m (56,800 ft)
* Rate of climb: >355 m/s (70,000 ft/min)
* Wing loading: 401 kg/m² (98 lb/ft²)
* Thrust/weight: 1.07 (at loaded weight & 1.15 with 50% fuel)

Armament:

built-in single-barrel GSh-301 gun (30 mm calibre, 150 rounds)

Air to Air Missiles:

* 10 × R-77 (AA-12) active radar homing medium range AAM, 100 km
* 10 × Astra active radar homing medium range AAM, 100 km
* 6 × R-27P (AA-10C) semi-active radar guided, long range AAM 130 km
* 6 × R-27P (AA-10D) Infrared homing extended range version, long range AAM 120 km
* 2 × R-27R/AA-10A semi-active radar guided, medium range AAM,80 km
* 2 × R-27T (AA-10B) infrared homing seeker, medium range AAM, 70 km
* 6 × R-73 (AA-11) short range AAM, 30 km
* 3 × Novator KS-172 AAM-L 300 km/Russian air-to-air missile designed as an "AWACS killer"

Air to Surface Missiles:

* 2 × Kh-59ME TV guided standoff Missile, 115 km
* 2 × Kh-59MK Laser guided standoff Missile, 285 km
* 4 × Kh-35 Anti-Ship Missile, 130 km
* 3 × PJ-10 Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile,300 km
* 6 × Kh-31P/A anti-radar missile, 70 km
* 6 × Kh-29T/L laser guided missile, 30 km
* 4 × S-8 rocket pods (80 unguided rockets)
* 4 × S-13 rocket pods (20 unguided rockets)

Bombs:

* 6 × KAB-500L laser guided bombs
* 3 × KAB-1500L laser guided bombs
* 8 × FAB-500T dumb bombs
* 28 × OFAB-250-270 dumb bombs
* 32 × OFAB-100-120 dumb bombs
* 8 × RBK-500 cluster bombs

F16 C/D

Engine: One Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220 turbofan, rated at 14,590 lb.s.t. dry and 23,770 lb.s.t. with afterburning or one General Electric F110-GE-100 turbofan, rated at 17,155 lb.s.t. dry and 28,984 lb.s.t. with afterburning.

Performance: Maximum short-endurance speed: Mach 2.02 (1333 mph) at 40,000 feet. Maximum sustained speed Mach 1.89 (1247 mph) at 40,000 feet. Tactical radius (hi-lo-hi interdiction on internal fuel with six 500-lb bombs) 360 miles. Maximum ferry range 2450 miles with maximum external fuel.

Dimensions: wingspan 31 feet 0 inches, length 49 feet 4 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.

Weights: 18,238 pounds empty, 26,463 pounds normal loaded (air-to-air mission), 42,300 pounds maximum takeoff.

 

[garibnawaz]

As suggested in another thread I suggest some more new threads or comparisions in the same thread which haven't been discussed yet.

Lets begin with

JF-17 v/s HPT-32
JF-17 v/s HJT-16
JF-17 v/s HJT-36

In this thread

Su-30MKI v/s Super Mushak
Su-30MKI v/s K-8
Su-30MKI v/s Rose Upgraded Mirage III/V
Su-30MKI v/s A-5 Phantan
Su-30MKI v/s PAF presidential/PM A-310

Regards,

GB

 

[satishkumarcsc]

please be realistic .

compare
SU30 MKI VS F16 C/D
MIG29 VS F16 A/B MLU
MIRAGE 2000 VS JF 17 THUNDER FIGHTER

Being realistic...this will lead to a direct mudslinging and indian poverty, Pakistani insurgency, Indian Naxalism, 1965 war thread...

Amen

 

[Hayreddin]

dont fool urself........never compare Russsian Tech with the rest of the world....they are different.....its always a big fat cats with lots of cholestrol....under the hood.......unlike french fashion models ...looks awesome..same for US...................

but i dont know where to fit the chinese one...

I dont agree with you ,,,,
why cant we compare two different technologies,,
Incase of fighter jets we can compare the jets of same generation.

when we talk about SU30 MKI AND F16 C/D ,F16 has advantage that it is war proven .SU 3o MKI has more strong radar than f16.

In dog fight which jet has more advantage ,,,,,? i have less knowledge about it ,so i want our senior members to tell us something about it .

 

[PAFAce]

Sorry Bezerk, I was just having a bit of fun. You can delete this post if you like.

Original Post:

You mean to say the anorexic ones?...yep they crack up too soon. And my opinions are Russian Chicks are hotter to french babes...been to both places...

I don't know, sir. I'll need samples of each. You can send them at my address, and I'll have my judgment within a week.

Also, if we're comparing jets based on women, I guess the Gripen wins by far. It might be a little "blonde" under the hood, but i won't refuse it. Would you?

dont fool urself........never compare Russsian Tech with the rest of the world....they are different.....its always a big fat cats with lots of cholestrol....under the hood.......unlike french fashion models ...looks awesome..same for US...................

but i dont know where to fit the chinese one...

Chinese "tech" will surprise you, trust me. I've been "surprised" on many occasions.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

I don't know, sir. I'll need samples of each. You can send them at my address, and I'll have my judgment within a week.

Also, if we're comparing jets based on women, I guess the Gripen wins by far. I might be a little "blonde" under the hood, but i won't refuse it. Would you?


Chinese "tech" will surprise you, trust me. I've been "surprised" on many occasions.

I Always loved the little blonde(Gripen)...But she is also a bit dumb(American tech in it)...That is what worries me a bit. But all together she is a great eye candy(looks).

 

[Hayreddin]

Russian aircraft manufacturers heavily emphasize supermaneuverability
Supermaneuverability

Supermaneuverability is quality of aircraft defined as a threshold of attitude control exceeding that which is possible by pure aerodynamic maneuverability; in other words, a controlled loss of control beyond normal abilities....
and dogfight capabilities in fighter design, with aircraft such as the the Su-30MKi
Thrust vectoring is the ability of an aircraft or other vehicle to direct the thrust from its main engine in a direction other than parallel to the vehicle's longitudinal axis....
systems to achieve these goals, pushing the aircraft to its limits to give it an advantage in combat. USAF fighter, such as the F-16, tend to favor higher speeds, because of their emphasis on high power-to-weight ratio
Power-to-weight ratio.
Empty an F-16C power/weight ration is about 1.5, the Su30 is about 1.2, full the F1-6C is 0.68 and the Su30 is 0.68
F-16C combat radius is 340nm with a typical weapon load, the Su30 combat radius is around 500nm.

 

[Novice09]

Include few more FJs to compare that will really debase this topic.

 

[Wingman]

As suggested in another thread I suggest some more new threads or comparisions in the same thread which haven't been discussed yet.

Lets begin with

JF-17 v/s HPT-32
JF-17 v/s HJT-16
JF-17 v/s HJT-36

In this thread

Su-30MKI v/s Super Mushak
Su-30MKI v/s K-8
Su-30MKI v/s Rose Upgraded Mirage III/V
Su-30MKI v/s A-5 Phantan
Su-30MKI v/s PAF presidential/PM A-310

Regards,

GB[/QUOTE

Forum members please look into his request

 

[ice_man]

As suggested in another thread I suggest some more new threads or comparisions in the same thread which haven't been discussed yet.

Lets begin with

JF-17 v/s HPT-32
JF-17 v/s HJT-16
JF-17 v/s HJT-36

In this thread

Su-30MKI v/s Super Mushak
Su-30MKI v/s K-8
Su-30MKI v/s Rose Upgraded Mirage III/V
Su-30MKI v/s A-5 Phantan
Su-30MKI v/s PAF presidential/PM A-310

Regards,

GB[/QUOTE

Forum members please look into his request

@garibnawaz..... i bet you have a HOTAS issue all the time! that is the biggest problem with Bharat rakshak boys! they never let go of their stick!