SU 30 crashed near Jaisalmer

[Jayanta]

Atleast four have crashed so far:

- 30 April 2009, in the Pokhran region of Rajasthan, at Rajmathai village, around 170 km from Jaisalmer.
- 30 November 2009, in Jathegaon, about 40 km from Jaisalmer after a fire warning.
- 13 December 2011, the aircraft had taken off from the Lohegaon Indian Air Force Base near Pune, crashing at Wade-Bholai village, 20 kilometres from Pune.
- 19 February 2013

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Fighter crash is nothing new, it happens to best of the pilots and the best of the fighters. Even the so called best fighter of the world F-22 has also crashed.
1.On 25 March 2009, an F-22 crashed 35 miles (56 km) northeast of Edwards Air Force Base.
2.On 16 November 2010, an F-22, based at Elmendorf, Alaska, lost contact with Air Traffic Control.The aircraft was discovered to have crashed; the pilot, Captain Jeffrey Haney, was killed.
3. On 15 November 2012, an F-22 crashed near Tyndall Air Force Base, just south of Panama City, Florida
4. On 7 December 2012, an F-22 from the 199th Fighter Squadron.

whats the big fuss in it...the good news is that the pilots have survived.

 

[anant_s]

IAF Statement: "One Su-30 aircraft of the IAF crashed at Pokhran Range on 19 Feb 2013 at about 1920h. The aircraft was on a night flying training mission. Both the pilots ejected safely. There is no reported damage to any civil property or life on ground. A Court of Inquiry has been ordered to investigate into the accident."

This was the fourth crash of an IAF Su-30 MKI. The previous three were on 13 Dec 2011, November 2009 and 30 April 2009.

Livefist: IAF Su-30 MKI Crashes, Pilots Safe

 

[graphican]

Some Indians are putting 4 crashes in 15 years is not bad stats. True if you look at 15 years vs 4 crashes but all 4 crashes took place within the last 4 years or so. That means aircraft after living their safe decade are showing unreliability or maintenance problems.

 

[rockstarIN]

Some Indians are putting 4 crashes in 15 years is not bad stats. True if you look at 15 years vs 4 crashes but all 4 crashes took place within the last 4 years or so. That means aircraft after living their safe decade are showing unreliability or maintenance problems.

Wrong, MKIs are getting produced even now, there is no news that the crashed jets are 12-14 years old.

 

[chinapakistan]

No way, there is no way super advanced SU30 crashed, there must be some mistakes.

 

[HongWu]

No way, there is no way super advanced SU30 crashed, there must be some mistakes.

You didn't read the thread then. There are Indians claiming the MKI crashed because it is so advanced and powerful pilots simply can't handle it

 

[chinapakistan]

You didn't read the thread then. There are Indians claiming the MKI crashed because it is so advanced and powerful pilots simply can't handle it

Yes, it is a tradition they blame the pilots for every jet crash. It is pity to be indian pilots, it seems their goverment does not give respects to them.

 

[GORKHALI]

IAF need to take it seriously , i think it is lack of maintenance check . In 42 years of Bangladesh Air force history only 1 Aero L-39 crashed and another Aero L-39 needed emergency landing in India. Those are really old category aircraft compare to India (In fact entire Bangladesh Air Force Aircraft).

Yes when you let your aircraft to do high speed taxi rather than flying,so crash chanches going to be slim ...

 

[Speeder 2]

yeah yeah... are the mig-21s almost gone?

 

[shuttler]

Notable accidents

Sukhoi Su-30MKI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A Su-30MKI aircraft crashed on 30 April 2009 in the Pokhran region of Rajasthan, at Rajmathai village, around 170 km from Jaisalmer, after it took off from Pune during a routine sortie, killing one of its two pilots. Defence minister A. K. Antony, stated that the likely cause of the crash was "failure of the fly-by-wire system". The Sukhoi fleet was then grounded for around three weeks.[19] However it was found that the crash was caused by the incorrect position of critical switches behind the pilots and outside their field of view. The aircraft crashed when a critical switch was toggled disabling the Flight control system. Wing Commander PS Nara was killed in the mishap, while Wing Commander SV Munje was injured. Critical switches identified by the accident investigators were inhibited.[72]

Another Su-30MKI crashed on 30 November 2009 in Jathegaon, about 40 km from Jaisalmer after a fire warning.[19] Both aircrew ejected safely. As a result the entire fleet of Su-30MKIs was grounded while the cause of the problem was investigated. It was attributed to accidental ingestion of a foreign material in the engine intake.

A Su-30MKI crashed around 1:30 pm on 13 December 2011; both the pilots ejected safely. The aircraft had taken off from the Lohegaon Indian Air Force Base near Pune, crashing at Wade-Bholai village, 20 kilometres from Pune. Preliminary reports said that the crash was due to a malfunction in the fly-by-wire system. Wing Commander Gurkirat Singh Sohal, the pilot of the plane was conferred with the Vayu Sena Medal (Gallantry).

An IAF Su-30 crashed at the Pokhran Range on 19 February 2013 at about 1920h. The aircraft was on a night flying training mission. Both the pilots ejected safely. There is no reported damage to any civil property or life on ground. A Court of Inquiry has been ordered to investigate into the accident

bad news,money burnt.
how many su30 do you have now?

Indian Air Force has 157 Su-30MKIs in service as of January 2013

Unit cost 1.61 billion (US$29 million)

so it is 157 minus 4 = 153

and US$29 million x 4 = $116 million in smoke

 

[Speeder 2]

You didn't read the thread then. There are Indians claiming the MKI crashed because it is so advanced and powerful pilots simply can't handle it

i thought their defence chief antony had claimed that the pilot accidentally touched Terrain Hugging button.

 

[ejaz007]

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Fighter crash is nothing new, it happens to best of the pilots and the best of the fighters. Even the so called best fighter of the world F-22 has also crashed.
1.On 25 March 2009, an F-22 crashed 35 miles (56 km) northeast of Edwards Air Force Base.
2.On 16 November 2010, an F-22, based at Elmendorf, Alaska, lost contact with Air Traffic Control.The aircraft was discovered to have crashed; the pilot, Captain Jeffrey Haney, was killed.
3. On 15 November 2012, an F-22 crashed near Tyndall Air Force Base, just south of Panama City, Florida
4. On 7 December 2012, an F-22 from the 199th Fighter Squadron.

whats the big fuss in it...the good news is that the pilots have survived.

All types of fighters be the latest generation or the old generation do suffer accidents and crashes. Nothing unusuall about that. The reason I mentioned four crashes was that some Pakistani members had stated somewhere on the thread that five or perhaps more had crashed and an Indian member Rebuffed the claim. I thought should clear.

Another fact worth mentioning is that another Indian member pointed out that the plane crashed because it is state of the art and IAF did not have a fighter of the class of SU-30 before.

Now this statement can be taken in so many perspectives and one being that IAF pilots are not capable of flying the fighters. Just to point out that it is the statements made by fellow members that lead to discussions.

 

[ejaz007]

@ejaz007, the thing to argue and note is that most IAF fleet consists of twin engine fighters (SU-30, MiG-29, Jaguar) where as all PAF aircraft are single engine machines, meaning no recovery or back up even due to a small glitch. Still PAF F-16s logged over 100 000 accident free flying hours expanding over some 14 years....keeping in mind that during that period, PAF F-16s were also flying combat sorties.

This is a different matter to be discussed. The advantages and disadvantages of twin engine fighters.

The main causes of crashes I believe still are related to reliability of the equipment, maintenance, pilot error and accidents.