Stunning landscape of Kaptai lake area of Bangladesh.

[TopCat]

The Chakmas were refugees from Arakan.

They had conflicts with Rakhine people in Arakan about two hundred years ago - from more than one account I have read in the past few years. They were originally from Shan areas in China, and eventually moved to Arakan before this conflict to settle and conduct agriculture. It seems Rohingyas (who were more organized) could resist these issues violently with the Rakhine, but not the Chakmas who were a more pacified population.

The Rakhine completely drove out the Chakma (alongwith their royal family) and they moved to and settled around a few Hill Tract areas, such as Rangamati, Barakal and Chandraghona upstream on the banks of the Karnaphuli as these were safer areas for them. Please google it. Rest of the uninformed Bullsh*t merchants can just shut their trap.

This is logical - because if the Chakmas were settled for more than two hundred years, where is their 'civilization'?? There are zero civilized structures (signs of long period of settlement) in Rangamati and no sign of any land or infra improvements before Bengalis moved in.

These are just itinerant vagrants, migrants and assorted troublemakers. Unfortunately that is the legacy. read more here about how the British tamed these hill-dwellers,

https://books.google.com/books?id=GZtEAQAAMAAJ&pg=PR17&dq=bohmong+circle&hl=en#v=onepage&q=bohmong circle&f=false

A big number of Chakma still live in Arakan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daingnet_people
A lot people write all kind of craps without acutally knowing the Chakma themselves.
The Arakanese or Burmese Chakma speak a language similar to Rohingya too(Bengali). If they were from China or burma they would had spoken something like Rakhine or Marma people the derivatives of Burmese.
Daingnet people is the proof that Chakmas actually moved from north to south not south to north.

 

[Arsalan]

@Bilal9 @Bengal71 English language only please as mentioned by @WAJsal as well. This will be final soft warning.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

A big number of Chakma still live in Arakan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daingnet_people
A lot people write all kind of craps without acutally knowing the Chakma themselves.
The Arakanese or Burmese Chakma speak a language similar to Rohingya too(Bengali). If they were from China or burma they would had spoken something like Rakhine or Marma people the derivatives of Burmese.
Daingnet people is the proof that Chakmas actually moved from north to south not south to north.

Chakma's origin lies in the East, there is no doubt. Their genetics testify that. But for the few hundreds of years, they are in a close contact with Bengalis and Rohingyas. So a lot of Bengali/Rohingya words have entered in their vocabulary.

 

[namefield_empty]

A lot people write all kind of craps without acutally knowing the Chakma themselves.

I second that notion, lots of Bangladeshi haven't yet set foot in Rangamati or Khagrachari before peddling lies about the Chakmas.

The Arakanese or Burmese Chakma speak a language similar to Rohingya too(Bengali). If they were from China or burma they would had spoken something like Rakhine or Marma people the derivatives of Burmese.

My roommate during the undergrad days couple of decades back was a Chakma, whose family found their way into Mizoram from CHT and subsequent settled into the friendlier state of Tripura. I was astonished by his proficiency of the Assamese and Bengali language alike, and when i enquired further he said that Assamese came naturally to him as did Bengali(also the fact that he was from Tripura helped). That's when i realised that there was palpable similarities between Assamese/Bengali and the Chakma tongue. The people here who claim that the Chakmas are some Burmese or Chinese descendants are lying through their teeth.

Now comes the question of why I'm taking so much interest in this thread. The Chakmas have always dissociated themselves from the Kukis and other NE tribes of the Lushai Hills(Mizos). But fate had other designs for them, after being driven out of Bangladesh they were forced to seek refuge amongst those people who have historically hated their very existence. It is akin to us Assamese being forced to live with the Bangladeshis. Every fcuking day we see the Mizos complain about the Chakmas living in their state, and the Arunachalis are following suit too. There is no easy solution in sight.

 

[Bengal71]

@Bilal9 @Bengal71 English language only please as mentioned by @WAJsal as well. This will be final soft warning.

People use urdu all the time.

 

[Arsalan]

People use urdu all the time.

Sometimes to share an article written in urdu or to share a link/news report. Not for discussion. Even then we always ask them not too. I can show you posts of moderators asking members not to use Urdu even in the "stupid and funny" thread.

So as requested, please use English only for all debates and discussion or any other posts so everyone understands and can participate.

 

[Bengal71]

Sometimes to share an article written in urdu or to share a link/news report. Not for discussion. Even then we always ask them not too. I can show you posts of moderators asking members not to use Urdu even in the "stupid and funny" thread.

So as requested, please use English only for all debates and discussion or any other posts so everyone understands and can participate.

No worries, will do.

I regularly see people transliterating conversations in Urdu, also have seen Turkish members writing in Turkish.

 

[Arsalan]

No worries, will do.

I regularly see people transliterating conversations in Urdu, also have seen Turkish members writing in Turkish.

Please report such posts or send link to me in PM or on my profile or tag me or any MOD.


We request all members to please post in English so everyone here can understand and participate.

 

[TopCat]

Chakma's origin lies in the East, there is no doubt. Their genetics testify that. But for the few hundreds of years, they are in a close contact with Bengalis and Rohingyas. So a lot of Bengali/Rohingya words have entered in their vocabulary.

This is not some Word... They just speak indo aryan group of language unlike marma or rakhine or mro Who speak tibeto burman.