Always entertaining when you guys run out of actual arguments and make up your own hyperbolic strawmen like "most Muslims in the West" are this or that, or that "you guys" believe this or that.
I don't know who else is included in this. Not sure if I care for the answer.
"Most Muslims in the West" are no different to "Most Muslims in the Muslim countries". If anything, most surveys show that many get more indoctrinated than even back home.
Reports from country after country show that.
When unable to rebut specific points, all you can do is resort to the stock recourse of "conspiracy" or "apologist" or "denialist".
Am I the one who is looking for conspiracy in 9/11 or Boston or anywhere!
Those in denial can be called a "denialist", you should know, this being your first language.
On the contrary, I am the only one who has provided actual facts and principles of a liberal democratic society. You seem to confuse a blog post full of opinions as facts -- it's a common tactic of hatemongers that they start promoting opinions as facts.
I am living a liberal democratic society. This is my country's and my chosen system of governance, despite any shortfalls in implementation.
You are just a beneficiary of it. You use it to make ever increasing demands on others.
Just moving to a Western country doesn't change the value system of people and it is in evidence everywhere.
You call them names when things are "normal". You claim that their armies kill Muslims civilians deliberately, that 9/11 and other attacks are official conspiracies, that people that want to kill Muslims in these countries join their armies to do that.
When times are not "normal", you remind them of "their laws" based on "their values".
The people who are most clueless of, and contrary to, liberal, democratic values are your side. The fact that all your specious arguments ultimately boil down to advocacy of collective punishment, racial segregation of rights, and thought control is quite rich indeed.
Absolutely not.
I abhor all racial discrimination. Not just by one side.
For you, Arab discrimination (among others), of even Pakistanis and non Arab Muslims (leave alone the non Muslims) is halal.
Till you demand (and accomplish on the ground) changes in your own societies to the standards you demand from others, your demands will remain hypocritical.
You can't suddenly become a "Westerner" while making these demands, while remaining a global Islamist at all other times.