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Strongest Empires by timeline

You will always find delusional pseudo-Iranians like Suraenas constantly gloating and fantasising of some mystical ancient history that happened thousands of years ago while sobbing and blaming all their current miseries on the backward uncultured barbaric Arabs who "destroyed" their homeland. This narrative is very common among the racial supremacists Iranians who live or been exiled in the West. If only they put down their popular fiction books and see Iranians have been poor and miserable for thousands of more years being conquered and subjugated by anyone who tried. Anyhow the Iranians in ancient history are not the same today by any respectable measure - genetics, language, culture, religion etc. Point bank - your history is no more "glorious" than that of what the Arabs have achieved or for that matter the Chinese, Indians, Russians etc.
 
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Thats because you have a narrow view of what the Arabs really are. All of those people you mention aren't Arabs and during their time they don't saw themselves as Arabs. I don't give a damn which people now call themselves Arabs. I'm talking about history, not present time. Fact is that throughout history the most people who came in contact with the Arabs saw them as barbaric savages without any civilization. From North Africa to Iran. Even now, you are considered to be a backward people with middle-ages views. While in every country we immigrate too we are among the most educated people, your people are famous in Europe for raping woman, stealing and barbaric behavior.

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The last thing we would ever think of is a Persian instructing us about who is an Arab and who is not. Anyway, the greatest civilizations in history were made by Arabs ancestors. live with it my friend. Arabs were sth else before being Arabs. Its like you are saying that Allah created first Arabs, Persians....etc.
 
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You will always find delusional pseudo-Iranians like Suraenas constantly gloating and fantasising of some mystical ancient history that happened thousands of years ago while sobbing and blaming all their current miseries on the backward uncultured barbaric Arabs who "destroyed" their homeland.

You're African?

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do we muslim worship a room?do christians worship the tree in chrismas?
when the arabs were puting their alive daughters in the grave and were worshiping the stones we worshiping the GOD the great.

WHAT ! This is why I get so annoyed

what the hell does that got to do with Islam at all ?
HAve you gone beyond retardness that you seemed to miss the entire point about ISlam Why it was brought down , How it was brought down and what it contained ?

JUST BEACUSE THE ARABS WERE PAGEN BEFROE ISLAM DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARE ANY LESS WHEN ISLAM CAME ABOUT. IN fact Islam is SUperior and its the LAST message that God send. If your monotheistic faith is so great why did God sent down 3 more after yours ?

WHy...its because it got corrupt over time by men.
Furthermore I don't say out of pride that Islam is superior but a fact it can never be corrupt
Its not an arab religion its religion for the creation of the ENtire Universe , A universe that God, Allah(swt) created. And I'm sorry to say there is no one including Muslim that could ever corrupted because ALlah(SWT) has protected. Just look at the extremist that justify voilence in Islam name yet in hadeath, Quran and the history of the prophet Mohamid(Pbuh) never show such violence.
 
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You will always find delusional pseudo-Iranians like Suraenas constantly gloating and fantasising of some mystical ancient history that happened thousands of years ago while sobbing and blaming all their current miseries on the backward uncultured barbaric Arabs who "destroyed" their homeland. This narrative is very common among the racial supremacists Iranians who live or been exiled in the West. If only they put down their popular fiction books and see Iranians have been poor and miserable for thousands of more years being conquered and subjugated by anyone who tried. Anyhow the Iranians in ancient history are not the same today by any respectable measure - genetics, language, culture, religion etc. Point bank - your history is no more "glorious" than that of what the Arabs have achieved or for that matter the Chinese, Indians, Russians etc.

Persians created a civilization but they have no proof at all that it was greater than others, so they are blaming Arabs of destroying their "libraries" and killed their "scientists". And thats why they also trying to steal Ummayad and Abbasid great attachments in all areas. Its pathetic. Its inferiority complex.
 
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I don't have to proof Persians have a greater civilization than the Arabs; history and historians will. Maybe somebody can name me a respected historian who put the Persian empire below or on a same level as the Arabs?
 
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lol i read all these pages i started this thread and it moved from turkish defence but now its 15 pages lol when i see british empire i get angry , and a bit jealous but when i see them ruling many places that didnt even have weapons i dnt mind i see that their policy was to loot and get others wealth while ours was to defeat the christian world , not counquer poor african countries but to conquer strong europeon thats why im so proud,

The 16 Great Turkish Empires

1) The "GREAT HUN EMPIRE" - 204 B.C - 216 A.D
Founder - Mete (Bagatir)
Area - At the north, Siberia; south, Tibet - Kashmir; east, Pacific Ocean; west, Caspian Sea; (Total Area - 18,000,000 Km 2)

2) The "WESTERN HUN EMPIRE" - 48 - 216 A.D

Founder - Panu
Area - The area over present Central Asia

3) The "EUROPEAN HUN EMPIRE" - 275 - 454 A.D

Founder - Muncuk, Oktar, Rua & Aybars (brothers)
Area - Southern Russia, Romania, Northern
Yugoslavia, Hungary, Austria, Chekoslovakia, Southern & Central Germany; The area from eastern France to the Ural mountains; from northern Hungary to the Byzantine Empire; (Total Area - 4,000,000 Km 2)

4) The "WHITE HUN EMPIRE" - 420 - 552 A.D

Founder - Aksuvar (Aksungur)
Area - Half of northern India,
Afghanistan, parts of Turkistan (Total Area - 3,500,000 Km 2)

5) The "GOKTURK EMPIRE" - 552 - 743 A.D

Founder - Bumin Khan (Tumen)
Area - The inacessible valleys of the Altay Mountains (Ergenikon) (Total Area - 18,000,000 Km 2)

6) The "AVAR EMPIRE" - 562 - 796 A.D

Founder - Bayar Khan
Area - The area between the Volga, Hungary and Bessarabia

7) The "HAZAR EMPIRE" - 602 - 1016 A.D

Founder - There are no historical data as to the original founder, however, its greatest ruler was Hakan Yusuf.
Area - The Hazars who are believed to be an offshoot of the Gokturks migrated to the West and formed a state stretching from the Caucasian Mntns to the Danube and to the middle of and Southern Russia.

8) The "UYGUR EMPIRE" - 740 - 1335 A.D

Founder - Kutlug Bilgekul Khan
Area - Central Asia and Northern Mongolia.

9) The "KARAHAN" - 932 - 1212 A.D

Founder - Saltuk Bugra Han
Area - All the Trans-Oxus area including the area between the Issyk and Balkash Lakes

10) The "GAZNELI EMPIRE" - 962 - 1183 A.D

Founder - Alptekin
Area - The area from the Trans-Oxus to the Ganges River, and from the shores of the Caspian to the steppes of the Pamir. (Total Area - 4,700,000 Km 2)

11) The "SELCUK EMPIRE" - 1040 - 1157 A.D

Founder - Seljuk
Area - At the East, Balkash and Issyk Lakes and the Tarim Derya; At the West, Aegean and the Mediterranean shores; At the North, Aral Lake, Caspian Sea, Caucasian and the Black Sea; At the South, the area including Arabia and the sea Omman. (Total Area - 10,000,000 Km 2)

12) The "HARZEMSHAH" - 1077 - 1231 A.D

Founder - Kudrettin Mehmet (Harzemshah)
Area - Persia, Southern Caucasia, Dagistan, Afghanistan and most of Central Asia. (Total Area - 5,000,000 Km 2)

13) The "GOLDEN HORDE" - 1224 - 1502 A.D

Founder - Batur Han
Area - Eastern Europe, the Western Ural Area, the Crimea and the area to the north of the Volga.

14) The "EMPIRE OF TIMUR KHAN" - 1369 - 1501 A.D

Founder - Timur Gurgani
Area - At the West, Balkans; At the North, Volga shores; At the South, Indian Ocean; At the East, Central Asia;

15) The "EMPIRE OF BABUR" - 1526 - 1858 A.D

Founder - Babur Shah
Area - Afghanistan and India (Total Area - 2,700,000 Km 2)

16) The "OTTOMAN EMPIRE" - 1299 - 1922 A.D

Founder - Osman Bey
Area - Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Arabia, Jordan, Israel, Syria, Iraq, Anatolia, Caucasia, the Crimea, Bessarabia, Romania, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Greece, Cyprus, Hungary, the Sudan,.....and, the Black Sea, the Mediterranean Sea and the Red Sea were for a time - Turkish Lakes.

BEAT THIS HAHAH
 
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DOn't be racist
AFricans had a suprior History as well about same time as the Romans
Go educate yourself or is that too difficult for you.

Maybe you can name one great invention of those superior African kingdoms/civilizations?
 
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THIS IS ALSO ON THE TURKSIH PRESIDENTIAL SEAL BEFORE PEOPLE SAY ANYTHING I DNT THINK THE PEOPLE WHO DONE THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IS DUMB ENOUGH NOT TO RESARCH ENOUGH TO DO IT
 
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THere is a thing called google and books

Here is a start the Pharos.

You talking about the Egyptians? Well, let we see what one of the most respected Egyptologist Zawi Hawass say about this:

When pressed on the issue by American activists in September 2007, the current Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Dr. Zahi Hawass stated that

"Tutankhamun was not black, and the portrayal of ancient Egyptian civilization as black has no element of truth to it;" Hawass further observed that "[Ancient] Egyptians are not Arabs and are not Africans despite the fact that Egypt is in Africa."

I'm waiting.
 
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What an imbecile this Suranas is, denying the great civilizations that Arabs have created from the Spain to Damascus with all their contributions astronomy and world knowledge (btw most of which is lost). Only a retarded racial supremacist could say such things, and I am convinced you are one.

Also it is not logical to compare ancient Persia with something like the Ummayads or Al-Andalus, it's like comparing Vikings with the Soviets.

Compare Arab civilisations with the Safavids or Qajars and that would be fair. And we know who would win hands down. I wouldn't even put ancient Persia in top 10 really, how could an empire be considered great when it has been conquered by anyone who tried but miserable failed conquering others?

On the surface "Persia" conjures up images of roses, mystical horses and colourful carpets but in reality it is a mythical dream with no substance, recreated by Iranians for them to gloat and despair at the their current miseries.

You're African?

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I am Ethiopian/Somali with some Arab ancestry. So what motherf'ker?
 
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I don't have to proof Persians have a greater civilization than the Arabs; history and historians will. Maybe somebody can name me a respected historian who put the Persian empire below or on a same level as the Arabs?

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