Strikes on Pakistan can create nuclear holocaust: Feroz Khan

[Black Widow]

There is a similarity between the Cold War and the nuclear arms race b/w Pakistan and India. Keeping the tactical nuke-talk aside, Pakistan has the capability of inflicting the amount of damage which India simply cannot reciprocate.

French President de Gaulle stated once, regarding the french nuclear warfare doctrine:

"Within ten years, we shall have the means to kill 80 million Russians. I truly believe that one does not light-heartedly attack people who are able to kill 80 million Russians, even if one can kill 800 million French, that is if there were 800 million French."

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Explain the bold part..

 

[doppelganger]

I just came into the thread because I read "hemp" being mentioned somewhere .....

 

[chhota bheem]

so after more than 10 pages have we come to any conclusion ,will India be history or Pakistan will be history or Both the countries will be history.

 

[Black Widow]

Not exactly, The BMD won't work effectively in a lot of circumstances,

• Ineffective against Cruise missiles
• decreased effectiveness incase of MARVs and even less incase of MIRVs
• Incase of a large scale nuclear exchange , the sheer number of CMs/BMs might overwhelm the Engagement system of the BMD

P.s. Do read my previous replies in this thread, have explained all this and given detailed answers to these questions multiple times

1. Cruise missile can not carry heavy payload.
2. MARV and MIRV is not available in Pakistan inventory, even if it is, it is not tested well
3. stupid logic, no one keep 1000s of MRBMs..

Ever heard of nuclear triad??

 

[Black Widow]

What a stupid way to butt in, into an argument without taking into account the past communications.

Apparently, Pakistan has over 200 Nuclear Warheads which will all be launched simultaneously but only at 20-30 cities (let alone a 1000 warheads). Which means that each city will be targeted with at least 6-10 Nuclear Warheads carried by various different kinds of Missiles which will include decoys and countermeasures such as terminal phase manoeuvres etc.

In a Nuclear exchange, India will fall.

Pakistan has 200 warhead which will inflict damage to 20 cities in India, while India has 100 Warhead, which can inflict damage to 100 cities of Pakistan..

 

[Alpha1]

1. Cruise missile can not carry heavy payload.

They can carry enough, to do the job

2. MARV and MIRV is not available in Pakistan inventory, even if it is, it is not tested well

Well your BMD isn't deployed either

3. stupid logic, no one keep 1000s of MRBMs..

We don't need 1000s of BMs to overwhelm the BMD.

Ever heard of nuclear triad??

here we go again,
we have air,land,sea based delivery platforms. (I have explained this in the past pages, many times)
.
This debate is realy getting monotonous

 

[Alpha1]

It does depend on the yield, the altitude and the earth's hemisphere/electromagnetic field. Therefore, any such attack would be supremely calculated before being conducted. But such an attack will be limited to Indian cities, that will be ensured.

It is theoretically possible then,
I am not sure if Pakistan plans to deploy such weapons , no one can know.
Another use of NEMP can be against an Indian Naval Armada, it will disable the electronics on the ships and rendering them useless.
And as EMP attack is not harmful to human , India 'may' not respond with massive retaliation

 

[Black Widow]

They can carry enough, to do the job

Well your BMD isn't deployed either

We don't need 1000s of BMs to overwhelm the BMD.

here we go again,
we have air,land,sea based delivery platforms. (I have explained this in the past pages, many times)
.
This debate is realy getting monotonous

BMD is under deployment. Soon 4 Major cities will get it. In second phase 4 other cities will get it.
Cruise missiles can carry only 300-500 KG of payload. 20 to 34 Kt Nukes. It will scratch India, won't wound.
Then how much BMs needed to overhelm BMD? 50?
I don't see your water based delivery platform which can't be intercepted.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

so after more than 10 pages have we come to any conclusion ,will India be history or Pakistan will be history or Both the countries will be history.

in a full fledged massive strategical nuclear strikes by both countries on each other in an full scale indo-pak nuclear war both India & Pakistan will be history

 

[fast and furious]

really ? ok lets do some geography then
in an india-pakistan case the size difference is only 3.6 times, India is not even 4 times but only 3.6 times larger then Pakistan
Pakistan plus Pakistan control Kashmir combined with out siachin is 338,000 sq mi ,while India plus Indian control Kashmir including siachin combined is 1,241,000 sq mi
now divide
Pakistan's 3 lakh's 38 hazar sq mi with India's 12 lakh 41 hazar sq mi
& you get 3.6, which mean if it take for example 20 nukes to wipe of Pakistan then just say multiply 20 by 3.6 will come to 72 ,so it will take 72 nukes to wipe of India, so you see my dear, Size unfortunately in India's case is not that much of a matter either

some reality check : in geographic term India comes under the category of Argentina, Algeria, Kazakhstan, its no where near those 3 million plus sq mi countries like U.S, China, Brazil, Australia, Canada, Russia but 1,241,000 sq mi country like Argentina's 1,073,000 sq mi , Kazakhstan, 1,053,000 sq mi

while Pakistan @ 338,000 sq mi comes under the category of ,turkey, 302,000 sq mi, Namibia, 318,252 sq mi, , Egypt 390,500 sq mi , Venezuela 352,140 sq mi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/country_profiles/

Hmmmmmm,pretty simple Math,eh ?
Please read my post again.It was about the fallout of a nations's (India/Pakistan) on strike on itself.
Anyways,To answer your question.wat you are talking about in your post is 72+20 strikes.How old are you ? 92 strikes and the world watches.go figure.Its is easier to Divide and multiply like you did,then to let fly.

 

[INDIC]

What military preparation? Where your tanks fall in wells? where your migs are falling outa sky like fleas? Where last time you pull back unilaterally from a stand off?

indian army is a rusted, slow duck...with full of p*ssies who can't do jack..thats why we cross over and butcher..literally butcher your pathetic soldiers and go back...while you can't do jack.

Pakistan Military is far more war-ready, way faster, and way more flexible than useless indian junkard military can ever dream...and we have shown that again and again to indians...heck! some time ago, your army chief was crying that indian tanks don't even have night time capability

Throughout history, in wars, in stand-offs, and in exercises etc...Pakistan has been able to deploy its military strike forces to front lines way quicker than slow, inflexible, pathetic indian rusted military...and thats a fact. Look at the map, indians just can't match us, the superior one's!

You again tried to destroy us with words. But you can't replicate those words from dreams into reality.

 

[fast and furious]

What military preparation? Where your tanks fall in wells? where your migs are falling outa sky like fleas? Where last time you pull back unilaterally from a stand off?

indian army is a rusted, slow duck...with full of p*ssies who can't do jack..thats why we cross over and butcher..literally butcher your pathetic soldiers and go back...while you can't do jack.

Pakistan Military is far more war-ready, way faster, and way more flexible than useless indian junkard military can ever dream...and we have shown that again and again to indians...heck! some time ago, your army chief was crying that indian tanks don't even have night time capability

Throughout history, in wars, in stand-offs, and in exercises etc...Pakistan has been able to deploy its military strike forces to front lines way quicker than slow, inflexible, pathetic indian rusted military...and thats a fact. Look at the map, indians just can't match us, the superior one's![/quote

 

[Biplab Bijay]

What military preparation? Where your tanks fall in wells? where your migs are falling outa sky like fleas? Where last time you pull back unilaterally from a stand off?

indian army is a rusted, slow duck...with full of p*ssies who can't do jack..thats why we cross over and butcher..literally butcher your pathetic soldiers and go back...while you can't do jack.

Pakistan Military is far more war-ready, way faster, and way more flexible than useless indian junkard military can ever dream...and we have shown that again and again to indians...heck! some time ago, your army chief was crying that indian tanks don't even have night time capability

Throughout history, in wars, in stand-offs, and in exercises etc...Pakistan has been able to deploy its military strike forces to front lines way quicker than slow, inflexible, pathetic indian rusted military...and thats a fact. Look at the map, indians just can't match us, the superior one's!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

 

[Mav3rick]

Pakistan has 200 warhead which will inflict damage to 20 cities in India, while India has 100 Warhead, which can inflict damage to 100 cities of Pakistan..

That is assuming that Pakistan has no BMD in place, which can be quite influential in the outcome of any such war

 

[SQ8]

Pakistan has 200 warhead which will inflict damage to 20 cities in India, while India has 100 Warhead, which can inflict damage to 100 cities of Pakistan..

That was either sarcastic or the most stupid post you have made in a while.