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Strike from 30 thousand feet.

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In the context of NATO does that even matter? Even if there was a way to stop strikes from 30,000ft, it is unlikey that any NATO assets would be fired upon.

You are mistaken in your perception baby. come back when we are done with replacing our F-7 with JF-17 than you will see how we respond to a 30'000ft strike.
Killing some lonely men in void is terrorism. Pakistan is a responsible state and the hostile act of US forces was extremely irresponsible.

Don't you have any doubts on Pakistan army's ability to strike any where in india or gulf or Afghanistan, with pin point precision.
Trust me Pak Army can very much lightup your your nights, but we are responsible state and we don't want to push humanity in to a nuclear war. It is American legacy, we let them continue.

Don't you forget, when we begin, we began from india. Afghanis themself will soon end their ocupation.
 
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Keys,

Did you read the discrepancies pointed out between that video and the US military's own statements in the main NATO attack thread?

Actually I'm not even sure why NATO is going about releasing footage before a full investigation is conducted. They are wrecking their own case.
 
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You are mistaken in your perception baby. come back when we are done with replacing our F-7 with JF-17 than you will see how we respond to a 30'000ft strike.
Killing some lonely men in void is terrorism. Pakistan is a responsible state and the hostile act of US forces was extremely irresponsible.

Don't you have any doubts on Pakistan army's ability to strike any where in india or gulf or Afghanistan, with pin point precision.
Trust me Pak Army can very much lightup your your nights, but we are responsible state and we don't want to push humanity in to a nuclear war. It is American legacy, we let them continue.

Don't you forget, when we begin, we began from india. Afghanis themself will soon end their ocupation.

The Jf-17 can't do anything in this role it is really no different from the F-7 in its inability to deter Coalition air assets. While this incident is regrettable, the Frontier Corps has shown its limited usefulness and coupled with the mass surrender to the Taliban previously, should be withdrawn from the active combat zone and a full scale Pakistani Army offensive launched against insurgents with the end goal of containing and regulating the Pak-Afghan border as well as a massive massadra crackdown to shut down the insurgent recruiting centres. This is the only way to solve the current crisis and critically necessary as while there may be losses to the PA-once Coalition forces withdraw from Afghanistan the insurgents will turn their attetntion southwards causing untold damage, physically and economically to Pakistan. So it is merely a strategy of striking first and containing the threat before it gets out of hand and preventing more of these conflicts of interests between partners.
 
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Actually I'm not even sure why NATO is going about releasing footage before a full investigation is conducted. They are wrecking their own case.

I would agree, and quite honestly, nothing irritated me more than waking up to the denials from the US military (so far they haven't even acknowledged Pakistani Security Forces deaths) and this poor excuse of an explanation - the UAV video.

The appropriate thing, even if they weren't ready to apologize, would have been to simply state that an investigation was ongoing, rather than this "propaganda", for lack of a better word.

Mullen a little bit ago released a statement saying that the bombing was "textbook", but the details are not yet known, and there is still no recognition of Pakistani Security Forces deaths.

This US response is more along the lines of what one would expect it would be towards Iran!

P.S: I apologize if my response to you in the other thread was harsh, reading back over it it seemed so to me. I was a little strung out that day.
 
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The Jf-17 can't do anything in this role it is really no different from the F-7 in its inability to deter Coalition air assets. While this incident is regrettable, the Frontier Corps has shown its limited usefulness and coupled with the mass surrender to the Taliban previously, should be withdrawn from the active combat zone and a full scale Pakistani Army offensive launched against insurgents with the end goal of containing and regulating the Pak-Afghan border as well as a massive massadra crackdown to shut down the insurgent recruiting centres. This is the only way to solve the current crisis and critically necessary as while there may be losses to the PA-once Coalition forces withdraw from Afghanistan the insurgents will turn their attetntion southwards causing untold damage, physically and economically to Pakistan. So it is merely a strategy of striking first and containing the threat before it gets out of hand and preventing more of these conflicts of interests between partners.

Jliu,

Most of us would agree that the FC in its current state is not the best tool for combating the insurgency, but there are other dynamics in the region, and in FATA specifically, that preclude the deployment of the Army as the primary force for maintaining control.

The current plan of capacity building within the FC, with limited support from the Army and Air Force in certain situations, is the best one for the region because of those other factors.

Even if the dynamics of FATA and their interplay with the rest of Pakistan were controllable (and thats a big if), the dynamics in South Asia, with respect to a lack of normalization between India and Pakistan, prevent any major redeployment of the regular military on the Western Front.

With redeployment, you still would not be able to address the situation in FATA with pure military action. Its a complicated situation that, while acknowledging the necessity of destroying the virulent ideology of some Taliban and AQ groups, must be addressed through dialog with those very groups to attain interim objectives.

I believe the British in Afghanistan recognized this, and attempted it (according to some reports) but were found out, and roundly criticized by both the US and the Karzai government. I do not know what the status of any of those initiatives is at the moment, but they were most likely dropped under pressure.
 
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The Jf-17 can't do anything in this role it is really no different from the F-7 in its inability to deter Coalition air assets. While this incident is regrettable, the Frontier Corps has shown its limited usefulness and coupled with the mass surrender to the Taliban previously, should be withdrawn from the active combat zone and a full scale Pakistani Army offensive launched against insurgents with the end goal of containing and regulating the Pak-Afghan border as well as a massive massadra crackdown to shut down the insurgent recruiting centres. This is the only way to solve the current crisis and critically necessary as while there may be losses to the PA-once Coalition forces withdraw from Afghanistan the insurgents will turn their attetntion southwards causing untold damage, physically and economically to Pakistan. So it is merely a strategy of striking first and containing the threat before it gets out of hand and preventing more of these conflicts of interests between partners.

I'm not saying that JF-17 will intercept a 30'000 ft bomber, neither I'm saying we will show any irresponsible behavior once we have better fire power.
But we may not show same tolerance to a similar incident.
I also don't believe that a 30'000 ft bomber can make guided hits. it was not a 30'000 ft bomber. it's just a stunt from our political leadership to save their face.

Now comming to the point of insurgence, we know that insurgents are our enimies too and we have fought with them without asking US. Sawat operation was one example.

The problem is foreigners does not know what we are facing here.
Undemocratic Afghan govt. is a bunch of brutal warlord who are well paid by indians to send insurgents into Pakistan for terrorism. Those insurgents can travel to Pakistan easily without being notice by PakArmy. instead we believe when ever afghan army has to send across big stock of explosives the do this kind of deviatory acts. So now it is almost certain that while Americans were busy engaging our border security guards. afghan army smuggled in huge quantities of indian made explosives for future terrorism.
Now I'm affraid that some thing bad is comming soon, which may involve huge explosives.

We not only blame NATO for killing Pakistani soldiers instead we blame them for sponsoring terrorism infect al-qaida and US are coalition partners in figting with Pak Army and ploting assisnation of P.Musharraf and of course the media campaign from both against Pakarmy.

Now lets use some brains; What do you expect when a child see his father dying infront of his eyes? he will be a rebel for sure.
What taliban is NATO talking? every day NATO kill young men of age 20 so perhaps when one taliban leader sheltered bin laden (retired american employee) in his house (fiction) they were perhaps 10 years old. Do you think it is fair enought to kill them for the crime which was committed by some one else while they were 10 year old.
DO you think we don't see the theater of war in whole region. Do you expect me to believe that taliban is responsible for it? open your eyes man. you are being brain washed if not than I urge you to become a reporter and go to afghanistan and report the attrocities NATO and indian soldiers are commiting with childrens.
We are helping NATO with our tax money. Please, first send the salaries for those whom you wish to hire for help or bring more soldiers and plug the whole border if still not than let us fence it.
 
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open your eyes man. you are being brain washed if not than I urge you to become a reporter and go to afghanistan and report the attrocities NATO and indian soldiers are commiting with childrens.
We are helping NATO with our tax money. Please, first send the salaries for those whom you wish to hire for help or bring more soldiers and plug the whole border if still not than let us fence it.

Dude there are no Indian soldiers in Afghanistan
 
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Although we don’t have that capability but cant we even target NATO installations in Afghanistan? Saying that it was a reaction to an attack from their side and we didn’t know who was attacking us.
 
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Although we don’t have that capability but cant we even target NATO installations in Afghanistan? Saying that it was a reaction to an attack from their side and we didn’t know who was attacking us.

Confrontation results with confrontation, not in the interest of Pakistan.
 
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These are in very limited numbers to protect Indian engineers from people trying to kidnap them (Taliban & and other anti development forces)theye are not helping the allys they protecting Indians .

Agree with you, troops are only for protection for Indian engineers, not for any offensive intent.
 
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