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Read it again, I am talking about Bangladeshi holding Bangladesh citizenship migrating to Pakistan for better economic opportunities in the 80s...

Fake claim. It was not possible for Bangladeshis to go Pakistan in big number after 1971 as there are no direct route. Officially Bangladeshis could obtain Pakistani citizenship till 1978.

If anyone has gone after 1978 and you can prove it Bangladesh is always ready to take them back after verification.
 
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there is no pakistani stranded in BD .
 
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Fake claim. It was not possible for Bangladeshis to go Pakistan in big number after 1971 as there are no direct route. Officially Bangladeshis could obtain Pakistani citizenship till 1978.

If anyone has gone after 1978 and you can prove it Bangladesh is always ready to take them back after verification.
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engalis in Pakistan: A neglected community crying for recognition

Pakistanis call Karachi 'Mini Bangladesh'. There are about 132 Bengali colonies in and around Karachi, the largest city in Pakistan, writes Rakib Al Hasan for South Asia Monitor
Rakib Al Hasan By Rakib Al Hasan Jun 18, 2021
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Bengalis in Pakistan
Bengalis in Pakistan

When we hear the word “Bengali”, the names of two countries come to our mind first — India and Bangladesh. Despite the historic truth that Bangladesh was once known as East Pakistan, it is almost impossible to even imagine the phrase ‘Pakistani Bengali’. But it’s a fact that after Bangladesh and India, the country where most Bengalis live, is still Pakistan. Although the official estimate is three million, in reality, that number is far more.

Two separate countries were born on August 15, 1947, India and Pakistan. After a bloody war, Pakistan got bifurcated, and Bangladesh was born as an independent nation in 1971. However, how Karachi, now the economic epicenter of Pakistan and the capital of its Sindh province, became home to such a significant number of Bengali dwellers, many of whom now live a miserable existence, is interesting, but, at times, a tragic yet not so known story.

Since the partition of the subcontinent in 1947, many Bengalis migrated to the port city of Karachi in search of work. Many of them settled in Karachi and established themselves through their talent and hard work.

Before 1971, Bengalis were the second largest linguistic community in Karachi. During the British rule, Urdu-speaking traders brought fishermen from the coastal areas of then East Bengal to Karachi because of their fishing skills. The group comprised both Hindus and Muslims. The traders set up fishermen's colonies by the sea during the first half of the twentieth century. The Bengali-speaking fishermen quickly adapted to the environment in Karachi and made it their home.

The Bengalis who have been living in Karachi for so many years still keep their Bengali identity alive. Although many of them cannot read or write Bengali properly, they speak the language fluently. Rice is still their staple food and they also love listening to Bangla songs in their spare time.

When one walks along such lanes, the sound of hit Bangla songs frequently catches the eardrums. Post-graduate studies in Bengali can be done at Karachi University. Bengali books written by Nobel laureate Rabindranath Tagore, Kazi Nazrul Islam, Jasimuddin, Manik Bandopadhyay, Shakti Chattopadhyay, Sunil Gangopadhyay and Humayun Ahmed are also taught at the university.

At one time two Bengali dailies 'Qaumi Bandhan' and 'Mukti' used to be published from Karachi. That is why Pakistanis call Karachi 'Mini Bangladesh'. There are about 132 Bengali colonies in and around Karachi, the largest city in Pakistan and the 12th largest in the world.

Struggle for identity documents

Bengalis who came to Pakistan before 1971 may be somewhat better off, but those who migrated after the Liberation War of 1971 met with a dire fate. These Bengalis are yet to receive a legitimate identity card to access the basic services of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. The procedure of getting a work permit is also quite complex, as one has to cross several stages, often having to pay bribes.

Due to a lack of educational opportunities, fishing is the main occupation of most Bengalis living in Karachi. As they do not have an identity document, they are forced to work on lower wages and cannot own any property. Thus, they end up living in rented apartments year after year.

Also, since the Bengalis live in over-populated slums, the environment is very dirty. Congested slums are uninhabitable and do not have electricity for about 20 hours a day. The city civic body supplies drinking water only once a day. As the younger generation cannot pursue higher education, they have to work in grocery stores or sell vegetables on the roadside.

Since most Bengalis living in Pakistan do not have the right to vote, they do not have access to local politics. Thus local political leaders are least concerned about their daily basic needs. Due to a lack of proper communication between the two nations, they cannot meet or send any gifts or money to their relatives in Bangladesh.

Professionally, the Bengali-speaking people of Karachi are mainly involved in the local fisheries. They are also the main driving force in Pakistan's 25 billion rupee fish export sector. Many of them work in ocean-going trawlers. These people are a permanent source of cheap labor in the economic life of Karachi. Lack of citizenship certificates makes it easier for employers to defraud them. The absence of birth registration certificates (known as B-form) has hampered the education of many and without a computerized National ID Card (CNIC), they are barred from matching requirements of high-paid jobs.

The majority of the current Bengali community in Karachi was born and brought up there. According to the country's citizenship law 1951, they deserve to be bona fide citizens. But when they ask for birth certificates or identity documents, they are denied such facilities.

Emotional distress

A good number of those who have migrated there in recent decades want to return to Bangladesh. But many among them who had migrated without a Bangladeshi identity card, cannot now claim themselves as Bangladeshis. Again, the diplomatic relations between the two countries are now cold. This has also made it difficult for them to visit their close relatives in Bangladesh. Years of separation from their near and dear ones has become a cause of emotional distress for many.

At the same time, the reverse side of the coin has the image of hope and happiness. The Bengali-speaking young generation in Karachi now finds their claim to citizenship more reasonable than ever because of the extraordinary precedent set by the Bangladesh government for the Urdu-speaking people living in camps in Bangladesh a few years ago. But despite the humanitarian sympathy, the problem remains unresolved as the political parties weigh their gains and losses.

Pakistan's census documents mention nine mother tongues, but Bangla has no place in the list yet. This scenario is disheartening for the Bangla-speaking community. On the other hand, the government of Bangladesh is giving benefits to all the citizens by recognizing the Urdu speakers trapped in the camps on its soil. This initiative was also noticed by current Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan. As a result, he promised citizenship and passports to the stranded Bengalis and Afghans in the run-up to the last election. That promise is yet to see the light of day.

Pakistan needs to reciprocate

Moreover, Bangladesh is now the second-largest economy in South Asia. Bangladesh's exports to India are USD 1 billion in monetary value and imports are USD 7 billion. With China, Bangladesh's exports exceed USD 1 billion and its imports exceed USD 10 billion.

In the past, Bangladesh was a huge market for Pakistan-made sports goods, surgical equipment, and Islamic heritage items. Over time, that industry has faded. If Pakistan wants to boost its current economy, they have to work on building good economic relations and move their own economic wheel.

Moreover, just as Bangladesh has extended its hand of friendship by giving recognition to the stranded Pakistanis, Islamabad should reciprocate by extending its hand in like manner. On the golden jubilee of Bangladesh's independence that all Bengalis of the country are celebrating, giving recognition to three million Bengalis in Pakistan can be the best gift. All it demands is kindness and generosity.

(The writer is an activist and award-winning international youth leader in Bangladesh. The views expressed are personal. He can be contacted at md.rakibalhasan.bd@gmail.com/ he tweets @ rakibalhasan_bd)

Read more at: https://www.southasiamonitor.org/spotlight/bengalis-pakistan-neglected-community-crying-recognition
So who are these Biharis? Dropped from heaven out of no where?
thats your problem not ours they came from india. a country thousands kms away from us like BD is not our issue . do you know iraq /turkamnistan /uzbikistan even yemen is close to pakistan then BD ? we have dozens of regional countries to be worry of rather then BD
 
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Fake claim. It was not possible for Bangladeshis to go Pakistan in big number after 1971 as there are no direct route. Officially Bangladeshis could obtain Pakistani citizenship till 1978.

If anyone has gone after 1978 and you can prove it Bangladesh is always ready to take them back after verification.

Since you are an Indian pretending to be Bangladeshi you do not qualify as someone ill talk to, so bugger off!!! Since we all know why you start threads like these...
 
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IMO they should obtain Bangladeshi citizenship or ask US to settle them in America. If they really want to come to Pakistan, they will have to risk once more their and their family lives and use illegal means(most likely sea route self help).

Pakistan is so poor and accepting them officially will open series of troubles like enormous relocation expense, political headache where "sons of soil" will cry wherever govt try to settle them despite of them supporting Pakistan Army in 71 risking their and their family's lives and other legal troubles.
 
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May be we should swap the tens of thousands of Bengalis living in pakistan for stranded Pakistanis on BD? They will get of people they do t want, and same here.
 
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And exactly how will Bihari's fit into the cultures you describe? Bihari's are neighbours of Banglas and would find it easier to mix with them.


Beharis hate bengalis and that is a well known fact.. they take great joy in moving to West Bengal and then, for the lack of a better word, shitting all over it and then biting the very bengali hand that feeds them..


It's not a question of finding it easy to mix, Beharis loathe bengalis for reasons beyond my understanding..


If they had the means they'd run as all into extinction.
 
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engalis in Pakistan: A neglected community crying for recognition

Pakistanis call Karachi 'Mini Bangladesh'. There are about 132 Bengali colonies in and around Karachi, the largest city in Pakistan, writes Rakib Al Hasan for South Asia Monitor
Rakib Al Hasan By Rakib Al Hasan Jun 18, 2021
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Bengalis in Pakistan
Bengalis in Pakistan

When we hear the word “Bengali”, the names of two countries come to our mind first — India and Bangladesh. Despite the historic truth that Bangladesh was once known as East Pakistan, it is almost impossible to even imagine the phrase ‘Pakistani Bengali’. But it’s a fact that after Bangladesh and India, the country where most Bengalis live, is still Pakistan. Although the official estimate is three million, in reality, that number is far more.

Two separate countries were born on August 15, 1947, India and Pakistan. After a bloody war, Pakistan got bifurcated, and Bangladesh was born as an independent nation in 1971. However, how Karachi, now the economic epicenter of Pakistan and the capital of its Sindh province, became home to such a significant number of Bengali dwellers, many of whom now live a miserable existence, is interesting, but, at times, a tragic yet not so known story.

Since the partition of the subcontinent in 1947, many Bengalis migrated to the port city of Karachi in search of work. Many of them settled in Karachi and established themselves through their talent and hard work.

Before 1971, Bengalis were the second largest linguistic community in Karachi. During the British rule, Urdu-speaking traders brought fishermen from the coastal areas of then East Bengal to Karachi because of their fishing skills. The group comprised both Hindus and Muslims. The traders set up fishermen's colonies by the sea during the first half of the twentieth century. The Bengali-speaking fishermen quickly adapted to the environment in Karachi and made it their home.

The Bengalis who have been living in Karachi for so many years still keep their Bengali identity alive. Although many of them cannot read or write Bengali properly, they speak the language fluently. Rice is still their staple food and they also love listening to Bangla songs in their spare time.

When one walks along such lanes, the sound of hit Bangla songs frequently catches the eardrums. Post-graduate studies in Bengali can be done at Karachi University. Bengali books written by Nobel laureate Rabindranath Tagore, Kazi Nazrul Islam, Jasimuddin, Manik Bandopadhyay, Shakti Chattopadhyay, Sunil Gangopadhyay and Humayun Ahmed are also taught at the university.

At one time two Bengali dailies 'Qaumi Bandhan' and 'Mukti' used to be published from Karachi. That is why Pakistanis call Karachi 'Mini Bangladesh'. There are about 132 Bengali colonies in and around Karachi, the largest city in Pakistan and the 12th largest in the world.

Struggle for identity documents

Bengalis who came to Pakistan before 1971 may be somewhat better off, but those who migrated after the Liberation War of 1971 met with a dire fate. These Bengalis are yet to receive a legitimate identity card to access the basic services of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. The procedure of getting a work permit is also quite complex, as one has to cross several stages, often having to pay bribes.

Due to a lack of educational opportunities, fishing is the main occupation of most Bengalis living in Karachi. As they do not have an identity document, they are forced to work on lower wages and cannot own any property. Thus, they end up living in rented apartments year after year.

Also, since the Bengalis live in over-populated slums, the environment is very dirty. Congested slums are uninhabitable and do not have electricity for about 20 hours a day. The city civic body supplies drinking water only once a day. As the younger generation cannot pursue higher education, they have to work in grocery stores or sell vegetables on the roadside.

Since most Bengalis living in Pakistan do not have the right to vote, they do not have access to local politics. Thus local political leaders are least concerned about their daily basic needs. Due to a lack of proper communication between the two nations, they cannot meet or send any gifts or money to their relatives in Bangladesh.

Professionally, the Bengali-speaking people of Karachi are mainly involved in the local fisheries. They are also the main driving force in Pakistan's 25 billion rupee fish export sector. Many of them work in ocean-going trawlers. These people are a permanent source of cheap labor in the economic life of Karachi. Lack of citizenship certificates makes it easier for employers to defraud them. The absence of birth registration certificates (known as B-form) has hampered the education of many and without a computerized National ID Card (CNIC), they are barred from matching requirements of high-paid jobs.

The majority of the current Bengali community in Karachi was born and brought up there. According to the country's citizenship law 1951, they deserve to be bona fide citizens. But when they ask for birth certificates or identity documents, they are denied such facilities.

Emotional distress

A good number of those who have migrated there in recent decades want to return to Bangladesh. But many among them who had migrated without a Bangladeshi identity card, cannot now claim themselves as Bangladeshis. Again, the diplomatic relations between the two countries are now cold. This has also made it difficult for them to visit their close relatives in Bangladesh. Years of separation from their near and dear ones has become a cause of emotional distress for many.

At the same time, the reverse side of the coin has the image of hope and happiness. The Bengali-speaking young generation in Karachi now finds their claim to citizenship more reasonable than ever because of the extraordinary precedent set by the Bangladesh government for the Urdu-speaking people living in camps in Bangladesh a few years ago. But despite the humanitarian sympathy, the problem remains unresolved as the political parties weigh their gains and losses.

Pakistan's census documents mention nine mother tongues, but Bangla has no place in the list yet. This scenario is disheartening for the Bangla-speaking community. On the other hand, the government of Bangladesh is giving benefits to all the citizens by recognizing the Urdu speakers trapped in the camps on its soil. This initiative was also noticed by current Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan. As a result, he promised citizenship and passports to the stranded Bengalis and Afghans in the run-up to the last election. That promise is yet to see the light of day.

Pakistan needs to reciprocate

Moreover, Bangladesh is now the second-largest economy in South Asia. Bangladesh's exports to India are USD 1 billion in monetary value and imports are USD 7 billion. With China, Bangladesh's exports exceed USD 1 billion and its imports exceed USD 10 billion.

In the past, Bangladesh was a huge market for Pakistan-made sports goods, surgical equipment, and Islamic heritage items. Over time, that industry has faded. If Pakistan wants to boost its current economy, they have to work on building good economic relations and move their own economic wheel.

Moreover, just as Bangladesh has extended its hand of friendship by giving recognition to the stranded Pakistanis, Islamabad should reciprocate by extending its hand in like manner. On the golden jubilee of Bangladesh's independence that all Bengalis of the country are celebrating, giving recognition to three million Bengalis in Pakistan can be the best gift. All it demands is kindness and generosity.

(The writer is an activist and award-winning international youth leader in Bangladesh. The views expressed are personal. He can be contacted at md.rakibalhasan.bd@gmail.com/ he tweets @ rakibalhasan_bd)

Read more at: https://www.southasiamonitor.org/spotlight/bengalis-pakistan-neglected-community-crying-recognition

thats your problem not ours they came from india. a country thousands kms away from us like BD is not our issue . do you know iraq /turkamnistan /uzbikistan even yemen is close to pakistan then BD ? we have dozens of regional countries to be worry of rather then BD

This part of the article summarizes it better:

“Before 1971, Bengalis were the second largest linguistic community in Karachi. During the British rule, Urdu-speaking traders brought fishermen from the coastal areas of then East Bengal to Karachi because of their fishing skills. The group comprised both Hindus and Muslims. The traders set up fishermen's colonies by the sea during the first half of the twentieth century. The Bengali-speaking fishermen quickly adapted to the environment in Karachi and made it their home.

The Bengalis who have been living in Karachi for so many years still keep their Bengali identity alive. Although many of them cannot read or write Bengali properly, they speak the language fluently. Rice is still their staple food and they also love listening to Bangla songs in their spare time.”

Pakistan officially allowed to claim citizenship until 1978. Plus many who sided with Pakistan preferred to migrate there. So technically they are all Pakistani citizen.

But Pakistani government at a later time cancelled many ID cards of the Bengalis those who obtained it on the basis of their ancestor living in Pakistan prior to 1978 which was a political decision and many are still asking for restoration of those IDs but not necessarily they are illegals.

As I said number of illegals can’t be significant among the 3 million supposed Bengalis as moving to Pakistan to India is almost impossible and economically not viable for poor people if economy was the reason for migration.

Why you are making contradictory and absurd claim like Biharis came to East Pakistan so they are Bangladeshi citizen by default? Have you seen any partition? During partition every citizen has the right to choose with whom they would like to stay. Biharis has chosen it also.

please keep Bangladesh out of it as Bangladesh allows Biharis to obtain Bangladeshi citizenship if they wish.
 
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Another useless discussion.


The bihari ppl need to accept the reality and settle in bangladesh. Or they can also apply for refugees status in countries like canada or west if bd situation is bad.

Time to move on.
 
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Well this issue is settled for most part which is status quo. I don'ts see anything changing in the foreseeable future.
 
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May be we should swap the tens of thousands of Bengalis living in pakistan for stranded Pakistanis on BD? They will get of people they do t want, and same here.

Those Bengalis are Pakistani citizen not Bangladeshi. If you can prove they arrived after 1978 Bangladesh May accept them after verification of their identity.
Since you are an Indian pretending to be Bangladeshi you do not qualify as someone ill talk to, so bugger off!!! Since we all know why you start threads like these...

If you can’t do proper argument and post rationally stop making these childish claims. You don’t know anything.
 
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And exactly how will Bihari's fit into the cultures you describe? Bihari's are neighbours of Banglas and would find it easier to mix with them.

This is a simple problem with a very problematic solution. Biharis have been offered BD citizenship repeatedly, it is an open invitation. But they don't want it, they're clinging to Pakistan, their lost fatherland.

This lot drank the koolaid pre 1971, and are still drunk on it, waiting for Pakistan to appear in shining armour and take them away.

The question is worth asking again and again because it exposes the Ummah brigade in Pakistan.

Any Ummah believer who supports Bihari repatriation is doomed politically. And any Ummah believer who denies Bihari Muslim calls is doomed in his faith.
 
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Those Bengalis are Pakistani citizen not Bangladeshi. If you can prove they arrived after 1978 Bangladesh May accept them after verification of their identity.


If you can’t do proper argument and post rationally stop making these childish claims. You don’t know anything.
lolllz show us their NIC then please :lol:
This is a simple problem with a very problematic solution. Biharis have been offered BD citizenship repeatedly, it is an open invitation. But they don't want it, they're clinging to Pakistan, their lost fatherland.

This lot drank the koolaid pre 1971, and are still drunk on it, waiting for Pakistan to appear in shining armour and take them away.

The question is worth asking again and again because it exposes the Ummah brigade in Pakistan.

Any Ummah believer who supports Bihari repatriation is doomed politically. And any Ummah believer who denies Bihari Muslim calls is doomed in his faith.
what they want or think not our problem the issue was resolved 50 years ago in pakistan . no provance in pakistan want to take anymore . pakistan is not just a country but its federation of 5 provinces too .
 
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