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Stop seeing Bangladesh as ‘East Pakistan’. Last 50 years are a missed opportunity

wtf, hasina and india cannt do anything without naming Pakistan :lol:

seems like Pakistan is there only lifeline.
 
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Inland water transport, too, has potential given the number of rivers in the region and it can connect the traditional areas again — Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Assam, and Tripura get connected to the Bay of Bengal, thereby bringing around a new wave of growth, something similar to Europe and the US. The entire Bay of Bengal coast must be looked as one continuous line for common advantage of the people living in the vicinity, just the way it was before the Partition in 1947.
Kolkata Port is already there for Uttar Pradesh and other Provinces. India, please do not try to bring your cargo ships to our Paira Port.

The thread title should read, " Stop seeing Bangladesh as another Province of old-time Hindustan".
 
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Good report by BBC:
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Why Narendra Modi's visit to Bangladesh led to 12 deaths
Anbarasan Ethirajan - BBC News
Wed, March 31, 2021, 5:08 AM

Mr Modi is a polarising figure both at home and abroad. His government, led by the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), has often been accused of pursuing policies that target Muslim minorities, and not doing enough to curb violence against them. The BJP denies the charges.
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His contentious image appears to have sparked the protests in the capital Dhaka - and the violence that followed no doubt was an embarrassment to both countries. It also casts a shadow on what has always been an amicable relationship between India and Bangladesh.

What happened in Bangladesh?
Mr Modi arrived in Dhaka for a two-day visit on 26 March, Bangladesh's independence day. It also coincided with the birth centenary of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, the country's founder and father of the current prime minister, Sheikh Hasina.

Leaders of the Maldives, Sri Lanka, Bhutan and Nepal were all guests of honour at the event. But Mr Modi's visit, which was meant to cap off the 10-day long celebrations, set off protests.
A group of Muslim worshippers held a protest on 26 March after Friday prayers at a mosque in the city. Soon, clashes erupted and police used tear gas and batons to disperse the crowd.
Protests then spread to other parts of the country and a hardline Islamist group, Hefazat-e-Islam, called for a nationwide shut down on 28 March to protest the attacks on those who held rallies against Mr Modi's visit.
Police fired tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse the crowd, which threw rocks and stones at security forces.
Dhaka and the eastern district of Brahmanbaria witnessed some of the worst violence. Buses, a train, a Hindu temple and several properties were damaged. A number of people with gunshot wounds were admitted to hospitals.
"Madrassa students holding processions were attacked by security forces and supporters of the [governing] Awami League. That led to the conflict. But there was no need to open fire on unarmed people," Dr Ahmed Abdul Qader, vice chairman of the Hefazat, told the BBC.
Officials say 12 protesters have died so far but the Islamist group say there were many more casualties.
"Bangladesh is a democracy and everybody has a right to say what they have to say. But they [the protesters] cannot take law and order in their hands," Anisul Haq, Bangladesh's law minister, told the BBC.
"They [the protesters] exceeded the limit. To protect the citizens of the country, and to protect law and order, the law enforcing agencies intervened," Mr Haq said.
Why were they protesting?
The protests were led by Islamists, students of madrassas (religious schools) and left-wing groups opposed to Mr Modi's visit to Bangladesh. They accused him of pursuing anti-Muslim policies.
Those who organised the rallies and even supporters of the ruling Awami League have accused security forces of brutally attacking protesters.
The incident prompted a group of eminent citizens and activists to issue an open statement demanding justice for the attacks on protesters.

The incident prompted a group of eminent citizens and activists to issue an open statement demanding justice for the attacks on protesters.

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Despite good bilateral relations, there has always been an undercurrent of anti-India sentiment among a section of Bangladeshis.

After the BJP came to power in India in 2014, "the anti-India sentiments turned into more of an anti-Modi feeling in Bangladesh", Shireen Huq, a women's rights activist, told the BBC.

"The protesters were not against India or the people of India. They were angry at the invitation to Mr Modi, who's extremely controversial and who's known for his anti-Muslim stance," she added.

"Bangladesh could have invited the president of India. That would have been acceptable to everyone."

But the government has justified its decision to invite Mr Modi.

"The government and the people of Bangladesh want to invite somebody from a country which steadfastly helped in our nine-month long independence war," Mr Haq said.

Does the violence affect bi-lateral relations?
India and Bangladesh have historically enjoyed a good relationship.

Bangladesh was formerly East Pakistan. It became a part of Pakistan when the Britain divided the subcontinent into a Hindu-majority India and a Muslim-majority Pakistan in 1947.

But in 1971, Bangladesh fought for its independence from Pakistan and with the help of Indian military intervention, it became a separate country.

But the BJP's rise to power has complicated matters.

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In recent election campaigns in the border states of West Bengal and Assam, Mr Modi and other senior BJP leaders have often raised the issue of alleged unauthorised immigration from Bangladesh. Bangladeshi officials have denied the accusation.

In a 2019 election rally, Home Minister Amit Shah described illegal immigrants as "termites", adding that the BJP government would "pick up infiltrators one by one and throw them into the Bay of Bengal".

Mr Shah's comments drew sharp criticism from rights groups and triggered anger in Bangladesh too.

But the repeated references to unauthorised Muslim immigrants from Bangladesh, especially during polarising election campaigns, have caused resentment in Dhaka. Ms Hasina's government, which is seen as pro-India by the opposition, is facing domestic pressure.

In 2019, Mr Modi's government passed a contentious citizenship law that would give asylum to religious minorities fleeing persecution from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh. By definition, that does not include Muslims.

The Citizenship Amendment Act was seen as anti-Muslim and it drew widespread criticism from India's opposition parties and rights groups.

The controversial law took Dhaka by surprise as well.

Ms Hasina went on the defensive and denied that minorities were fleeing Bangladesh due to religious persecution. Hindus constitute around 8% of Bangladesh's population of more than 160 million.

At one point Bangladesh even cancelled a few high-profile ministerial visits to India following domestic criticism of the citizenship law and a proposed National Register of Citizens (NRC).

The final NRC in Assam has left out nearly two million, including Hindus and Muslims, who ostensibly lacked sufficient documentation to prove that they were not unauthorised immigrants from Bangladesh. Hindu hardliners want the Muslims who have not made it to the list to be deported to Bangladesh.

Another thorn in the bilateral relationship is the killing of Bangladeshi civilians along the border by Indian security forces. Rights groups allege that more than 300 people have been killed since 2011 and the shootings have triggered widespread anger in Bangladesh.

Indian officials say most of those killed are smugglers from criminal gangs. But Bangladesh maintains that many of the victims were civilians. Activists point out that despite repeated assurances from Delhi, the killings have not stopped.

"India-Bangladesh relations has been one-way traffic. Bangladesh has given lots of concessions to India without getting much in return. Still, we have many unresolved issues like the sharing of river water," Ms Huq said.

The two countries share 54 rivers and except for one, they all flow from upstream India to Bangladesh before reaching the Bay of Bengal. So India has the ability to regulate the water flow. But except for the Ganges, the two countries have not yet signed an agreement on any other river, much to the displeasure of Bangladeshis.

Maintaining a good relationship with Bangladesh is key to India's security in its north-eastern region where several indigenous separatist groups operate. Many of them have been subdued over the years with Dhaka's help.

India often boasts of its "excellent" relationship with Bangladesh. It's seen as a silver lining in its diplomacy in its backyard given Delhi's troubled ties with other neighbours such as Pakistan and China.

The anger over Mr Modi's visit is therefore a clear warning to Delhi - if the sensitivities of its neighbour are not addressed, India may end up being friends only with the government in Dhaka and not with the people of Bangladesh.
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India surrounds you from 3 sides and has military power to crush you in weeks
Lmao supa pow. Even in 1971 war mighty mahabharata army had extremely hard time to fight Pakistan army that was already damaged by freedom fighters and was surrounded by hostile bengali people .

Now Bangladesh armed forces has 170 millions of patriot people and still you want to crush us in a weak?

You must me out of your mind. Go kid ,get some sleep. 8-)
China and Pakistani combined army can crush you in weeks , India's dumb diplomacy got them in trouble
What are you saying? How can mahabharata army be defeated? You are an asura ( অসুর) who don't honor the mighty vedic army. :omghaha:
 
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Lmao supa pow. Even in 1971 war mighty mahabharata army had extremely hard time to fight Pakistan army that was already damaged by freedom fighters and was surrounded by hostile bengali people .

Now Bangladesh armed forces has 170 millions of patriot people and still you want to crush us in a weak?

You must me out of your mind. Go kid ,get some sleep. 8-)

What are you saying? How can mahabharata army be defeated? You are an asura ( অসুর) who don't honor the mighty vedic army. :omghaha:

Like a Chinese brother once said, Indians are equipped with "Mouth Cannon". :lol:

Look at this gem, this bhakt idiot mentioned, and then ran away. :P

India surrounds you from 3 sides and has military power to crush you in weeks.

Weeks? I guess our Army will sit on its a$$, chewing Paan Ghutka?

We don't stand a chance against vedic weapons tek-na-lajee though. :lol:
 
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Like a Chinese brother once said, Indians are equipped with "Mouth Cannon". :lol:

Look at this gem, this bhakt idiot mentioned, and then ran away. :P



Weeks? I guess our Army will sit on its a$$, chewing Paan Ghutka?

We don't stand a chance against vedic weapons tek-na-lajee though. :lol:
Ho vai , oi moha purush Kei ei msg diyesi. Valo kore abar dekhen.

I am really afraid , where should we go if supa pow attack us with their mighty vedic army led by son gods ( like arjun ,bhim , bla bla bla .... ) . :rofl: :rofl:
 
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Stop seeing Bangladesh as ‘East Pakistan’. Last 50 years are a missed opportunity

Let’s stop anti-Bangladesh rhetoric and calling their people ‘ghuspathiye’. It is time to take them along for the economic prosperity and well-being of our people.

MAJ GEN YASH MOR (RETD)27 March, 2021

A file photo of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Bangladesh counterpart Sheikh Hasina | Photo: ANI


A file photo of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Bangladesh counterpart Sheikh Hasina | Photo: ANI

The past 50 years have been a missed opportunity for India and Bangladesh. The two countries’ leadership not only failed to fully exploit the economic potential of the region, but they also couldn’t connect people on both sides of the border. As Bangladesh proudly celebrates its 50th birth anniversary, we need to see how we can tap into the possibilities that lie ahead of us.

Bangladesh’s rise since its liberation in 1971 from the despotic and often cruel rule of the Punjabi-dominated West Pakistan has been phenomenal. The Indian military forces fought alongside the mukti yodhas for the freedom of Bangladesh, but somewhere in the Indian psyche, it still remained as East Pakistan. The advantages of the unique relationship were never fully exploited by both countries. So, we can say that 1971 was an incomplete victory because it failed to connect people to their shared heritage.

Economic benefits never exploited

The Bengal region became victim to the religious narrow outlook prevalent in the sub-continent. Only half-hearted efforts were made to exploit the traditional trading routes of the region. The economic advantages became prey to the ‘trust deficit’ between the leadership of India and Bangladesh. Successive governments in Bangladesh shied away from establishing long-term economic linkages, because they felt it was politically dangerous, often pandering to the sentiments of the Right-wing groups.

At the same time, the Indian leadership too did not rise beyond semantics, often blaming Bangladesh for supporting radical elements in neighbouring states of India. Thorny bilateral issues took centre stage and became part of the political discourse, instead of the leaders looking at the larger economic factors that could have alleviated poverty on both sides of the border. It reflects poorly on the leadership of both the nations that they could not fully understand the economic potential of a once-rich region of the sub-continent. Remember, Bengal (present-day West Bengal, Bihar, Odisha, Assam, Bangladesh and Uttar Pradesh) was one of the most prized assets of the Mughal kingdom.

On the lines of Europe, India should consider having a soft border with Bangladesh that allows free trade and commerce. The region can once again prosper, and bring millions of people out of abject poverty. India and Bangladesh have a stake in each other’s prosperity.

Possibilities are beyond imagination

We should start with connecting Tripura, Mizoram, Meghalaya and Manipur through Bangladesh. The issue has been on the table for many years. Transit facility through Bangladesh to these states can be a win-win situation for all the stakeholders. Revenue from transit fees will help develop the road infrastructure within Bangladesh. It goes without saying that this will lead to huge economic development all along these motorways. It will also remove the vulnerability of India’s ‘Chicken’s Neck’.

This may not be possible as a standalone agreement, without offering huge economic benefits to Bangladesh. India will have to provide access to Dhaka to freely trade with Nepal and Bhutan through Indian motorways. Just the tourist potential between the countries is huge, provided we can shed distrust and look at the bigger picture.

Another huge advantage to India is that a large number of our forces guarding the borders will be freed for better utilisation elsewhere.

Inland water transport, too, has potential given the number of rivers in the region and it can connect the traditional areas again — Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Assam, and Tripura get connected to the Bay of Bengal, thereby bringing around a new wave of growth, something similar to Europe and the US. The entire Bay of Bengal coast must be looked as one continuous line for common advantage of the people living in the vicinity, just the way it was before the Partition in 1947.

On the geo-strategic front, the gains are unfathomable. Bangladesh will be out of the Chinese influence, as would perhaps Myanmar and, to some extent, Nepal if this initiative succeeds. This will once again bring India to the leadership position in South Asia — only this time, all smaller states will be willingly cooperating for the common economic progress of all people. If China can plan to connect Central Asia, South and Southeast Asia on its own by having bilateral agreements with a large number of countries, why can’t India do it within its own region?


The answer to this pie-in-the-sky feel-good puff piece is this.

1. Indian Chanakya policy idiots will never see beyond using Bangladesh as a convenient market worth some $20 Billion every year - under their thumb. Dadagiri attitude will never end.
2. They neutralized the East Pakistan front in 1971 and it was a huge win. They will not let it go. They will neutralize every effort to strengthen our armed forces. Overtly and covertly.
3. They are only trying to complete the job they began in 1947 by sweet talking Bangladeshis so that border is opened up, they can flood our market (and the NE) with Indian manufactured exports, we become dependent on those and remain forever so. They are already doing this - this needs to stop.
4. "Connectivity with India" only benefits India, that is the ONLY INTENT from Indians. There is absolutely zero benefit for Bangladesh!! I dare any Indian to explain otherwise.
5. "Connectivity" is a strategic goal to make Bangladesh another dependent vassal. Indians will never (ever) stop trying. All their other moves with others have more or less failed. We are their last hope (like @Atlas bhai mentioned).

6. Indians are unreliable trade partners, as seen in the last fifty years. We should have a strategy to reduce dependence on imports (especially agri imports) from India and increase imports from China, Pakistan, Indonesia and Turkey, depending on items (whether technical or other types). Ultimately the end-game in the long term is to stop importing things from India completely.
7. There are too many Indian implanted spies and agents in Bangladesh. We should identify these people and kick them out. Bangladeshi traitors should be tried under sedition and jailed.

IMHO, border should never be opened, trade should occur on OUR TERMS, as an interim thing, as we lessen our dependence on imports from India.

A retaliatory NTB and Tariff barrier should be imposed on Indian imports - and it should only be rescinded when India stops putting Tariff and NTB's on our exports and decides to share water (all rivers) on fair terms.

But I don't see this happening at all.

So Thanks but no Thanks.

Ho vai , oi moha purush Kei ei msg diyesi. Valo kore abar dekhen.

I am really afraid , where should we go if supa pow attack us with their mighty vedic army led by son gods ( like arjun ,bhim , bla bla bla .... ) . :rofl:

It will be Kurukshetra all over again. :rofl:
 
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The answer to this pie-in-the-sky feel-good puff piece is this.

1. Indian Chanakya policy idiots will never see beyond using Bangladesh as a convenient market worth some $20 Billion every year - under their thumb. Dadagiri attitude will never end.
2. They neutralized the East Pakistan front in 1971 and it was a huge win. They will not let it go. They will neutralize every effort to strengthen our armed forces. Overtly and covertly.
3. They are only trying to complete the job they began in 1947 by sweet talking Bangladeshis so that border is opened up, they can flood our market (and the NE) with Indian manufactured exports, we become dependent on those and remain forever so.
4. "Connectivity with India" only benefits India, that is the ONLY INTENT from Indians. There is absolutely zero benefit for Bangladesh!! I dare any Indian to explain otherwise.
5. "Connectivity" is a strategic goal to make Bangladesh another dependent vassal. Indians will never (ever) stop trying. All their other moves with others have more or less failed. We are their last hope (like @Atlas bhai mentioned).


IMHO, border should never be opened, trade should occur on OUR TERMS, when India stops putting Tariff and NTB's on our exports and decides to share water on fair terms.

But I don't see this happening at all.

So Thanks but no Thanks.


It will be Kurukshetra all over again. :rofl:
Apatoto lip service dite den vai hasina and others der , Indian gula ally vabuk ar tole tole age force upgrade korte den. Er por dekhen khela kake bole.

Hasina surely knows that her father was killed by raw . But as she included the accomplices ( lots of old BAL MPs) in her ministry, same as she will take action against India.

She became a cunning politician that many people don't understand.

Thankfully Modi Thakur and other Indian leaders understand the reality unlike idiot bhakts , and that's why they will never trust Hasina.

Hasina has no hurry , she is already strengthened bond with China , now will make strong bond with Pakistan ( by claiming Bangladesh as Switzerland of East) ,and timely will bite the enemy.

And after all she has strong reason, if India can give submarine to Myanmar, why she can't make alliance with Pakistan?

Ekei bola hoy chora mair. :lol: :lol:

By this time let the bhakts worship Bangabandhu as their deity , and later the daughter of the deity will give them proper prasad by biting them.

Pran voira deikha lon @Bilal9 bhaijan. Real link is from pinaky ( perhaps a CPB bhakt draw the picture and Pinaky used it to troll them as usually) no longer found in his wall .so twitter is your friend.

:omghaha::omghaha::rofl::rofl::lol::lol:
 
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The answer to this pie-in-the-sky feel-good puff piece is this.

1. Indian Chanakya policy idiots will never see beyond using Bangladesh as a convenient market worth some $20 Billion every year - under their thumb. Dadagiri attitude will never end.
2. They neutralized the East Pakistan front in 1971 and it was a huge win. They will not let it go. They will neutralize every effort to strengthen our armed forces. Overtly and covertly.
3. They are only trying to complete the job they began in 1947 by sweet talking Bangladeshis so that border is opened up, they can flood our market (and the NE) with Indian manufactured exports, we become dependent on those and remain forever so. They are already doing this - this needs to stop.
4. "Connectivity with India" only benefits India, that is the ONLY INTENT from Indians. There is absolutely zero benefit for Bangladesh!! I dare any Indian to explain otherwise.
5. "Connectivity" is a strategic goal to make Bangladesh another dependent vassal. Indians will never (ever) stop trying. All their other moves with others have more or less failed. We are their last hope (like @Atlas bhai mentioned).

6. Indians are unreliable trade partners, as seen in the last fifty years. We should have a strategy to reduce dependence on imports (especially agri imports) from India and increase imports from China, Pakistan, Indonesia and Turkey, depending on items (whether technical or other types). Ultimately the end-game in the long term is to stop importing things from India completely.
7. There are too many Indian implanted spies and agents in Bangladesh. We should identify these people and kick them out. Bangladeshi traitors should be tried under sedition and jailed.

IMHO, border should never be opened, trade should occur on OUR TERMS, as an interim thing, as we lessen our dependence on imports from India.

A retaliatory NTB and Tariff barrier should be imposed on Indian imports - and it should only be rescinded when India stops putting Tariff and NTB's on our exports and decides to share water (all rivers) on fair terms.

But I don't see this happening at all.

So Thanks but no Thanks.



It will be Kurukshetra all over again. :rofl:

We have no military prowess to back all of those things up. We need to be self reliant, we need inhouse expertise and we need true patriots who will drop their blood for BD.

To curb the neighbour we need to show that we can do things ourselves. And enough with the sh-tty indian produce food available in BD localities it's making our people dumb asf.
 
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Apatoto lip service dite den vai hasina and others der , Indian gula ally vabuk ar tole tole age force upgrade korte den. Er por dekhen khela kake bole.

Hasina surely knows that her father was killed by raw . But as she included the accomplices ( lots of old BAL MPs) in her ministry, same as she will take action against India.

She became a cunning politician that many people don't understand.

Thankfully Modi Thakur and other Indian leaders understand the reality unlike idiot bhakts , and that's why they will never trust Hasina.

Hasina has no hurry , she is already strengthened bond with China , now will make strong bond with Pakistan ( by claiming Bangladesh as Switzerland of East) ,and timely will bite the enemy.

And after all she has strong reason, if India can give submarine to Myanmar, why she can't make alliance with Pakistan?

Ekei bola hoy chora mair. :lol: :lol:

By this time let the bhakts worship Bangabandhu as their deity , and later the daughter of the deity will give them proper prasad by biting them.

Pran voira deikha lon @Bilal9 bhaijan. Real link is from pinaky ( perhaps a CPB bhakt draw the picture and Pinaky used it to troll them as usually) no longer found in his wall .so twitter is your friend.

:omghaha::omghaha::rofl::rofl::lol::lol:

Sheikh rey to Hamlin er Bangshibadak banaiya dilo.

Krishna aasey -to radha koi? :omghaha::omghaha:
 
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Sheikh rey to Hamlin er Bangshibadak banaiya dilo.

Krishna aasey -to radha koi? :omghaha::omghaha:
Eita to mone hoiteche gopi der nia lila, oder e ekjon to radha hobar kotha. Obossho koli zuger krishno kina, radha nao thakte pare!:rofl: :rofl:
 
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The fact that you lungis need to involve pakistan plus china to save your *** shows how desperately weak you are.

We don't need anyone of them to like us.
Foreign policies are not run by liking or disliking this is not kindergarten.

The only thing we failed is to let this many retarded lungis in our country and time has come to round them up and throw them in jails for good.

We may not be Supa powa but Bangladesh will always remain a lungi swamp.

We also ended up butchering pakistan in half and giving birth to this retarded country.

These are not threats but proven facts in actual wars, what's funny is you can sometimes comprehend a sentence correctly.

LMAO NO ONE TAKES YOUR BUMASS SERIOUSLY PAJEET , also you guys have 0 people as friends in this neighborhood so WAY TO GO BOLLYWOOD
 
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