Stop maligning Pak Army for 2013 elections: Former MI official gives rejoinder to Imran Khan

[BATMAN]

Article 6. High treason
6. High treason.—1[(1) Any person who abrogates or subverts or suspends or holds in abeyance, or attempts or conspires to abrogate or subvert or suspend or hold in abeyance, the Constitution by use of force or show of force or by any other unconstitutional means shall be guilty of high treason.]

What about those who allowed India to build dams on Pakistani watres?

 

[volatile]

Thank you for posting the following vid that exposes the real face of Nawaz and his own planted judiciary that history records as such. This judiciary of the past is what Nawas was expecting when he went to this current SCP and got caught in MakafateAmal :

https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pak...ran-khans-shocking-disclosure-jolts-pakistan/

‘Justice Asif Saeed Khosa asked me to approach SC instead of agitation’, Imran Khan’s shocking disclosure jolts Pakistan

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What about those who allowed India to build dams on Pakistani watres?

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...-pakistani-rivers-to-india-ppp-leader-1339751
Former dictators sold Pakistani rivers to India: PPP leader
Coming from the houses mouth

http://www.theweekendleader.com/Culture/2531/river-trap.html
Six things you should know about Indus Waters Treaty


ISLAMABAD: Syed Jamaat Ali Shah, former commissioner of Pakistan Commission of Indus Water, whose name was put on the Exit Control List after it was established that he had helped and facilitated India in building a hydropower project on Pakistan’s Indus River, inflicting huge damage to the country’s water interests, has escaped to Canada.
According to Additional Secretary Hamid Ali, it was established in the report prepared by Mohammad Imtiaz Tajwar, Secretary Wapda, that Syed Jamaat Ali Shah did not play his due role and remained silent about the Nimoo Bazgo Hydropower Project (built by India during 2002- 2009) and did not raise any objections during the Pak-India meetings at the level of Permanent Indus Commission of Indus Waters.
It is surprising that Shah has managed to dodge the concerned authorities and is now in Canada, a senior official requesting anonymity told The News. This correspondent made several attempts to contact the federal minister for water and power to know how Jamaat Ali Shah had managed to escape, but his cell phone remained unattended.


Now who was in Govt between 2001 to 2008 ,Reagards

 

[BATMAN]

@volatile thanks...
Once I started a discussion, titled 'Traitors of Pakistan' but that thread was deleted shortly after.

 

[Shane]

Justice Asif Saeed Khosa asked me to approach SC instead of agitation’, Imran Khan’s shocking disclosure jolts Pakistan

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What level of lack of comprehension is at display here is mind boggling, and not just mind boggling but utterly humiliating for my ignoramus accost.

I'm literally flabbergasted here as you seem to simply Google-up things that suits you without actually knowing what the event was all about and was a twisted lie that was exposed as such soon after.

Read the following slowly and carefully dear, you might learn something:

What was twisted, planted and widely reported as a revelation by Imran Khan was actually comments by Justice Khosa while hearing the case in a five members bench headed by then CJ Anwar Zaheer Jamali and not some conspiracy as was portrayed by PID planted news feeds in various media.


A five-member apex court bench herd the case, comprising former CJP Answar Zaheer Jamali, Justice Asif Saeed Khosa, Justice Amir Hani Muslim, Justice Sheikh Azmat Saeed, and Justice Ijazul Hassan.

The Supreme Court also asked counsels on both sides to seek written statements of their clients’ respective stance, so there was no grievance.

Former dictators sold Pakistani rivers to India: PPP leader
Coming from the houses mouth

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  ISLAMABAD, Dec 15: In the middle of a high-profile case involving India (over the construction of Kishanganga hydropower project) pending before the International Court of Arbitration (COA), the government on Wednesday removed its Permanent Indus Water Commissioner, Jamaat Ali Shah. Sources told that the ministry of water and power was unaware of the decision as it had not moved any summary for Mr Shah's removal. The ministry got to know of the decision at the last moment.
  
  A ministry official said that Mr Shah was told on telephone in Lahore to hand over charge to his deputy, Sheraz Jamil Memon, and report to the Establishment Division.
  
  Mr Memon will work as Pakistan's commissioner at the (Pak-India) Permanent Indus Commission. He said the commissioner's post was of a permanent nature and should have fallen vacant on superannuation of Mr Shah next year.
  
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  “There are no charges against me. The government has the discretion to replace me like any other civil servant,” Jamaat Ali Shah told Dawn on telephone.
  
  He said he had another year to reach the age of superannuation, but declined to comment why he had been removed unceremoniously at a time when the International Court of Arbitration was about to take up Pakistan's case against India over construction of Kishanganga Hydropower project on river Neelum in violation of the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty.
  
  Sources in the water and power ministry said the development took place in the background of an ongoing discord between Mr Shah and Prime Minister's Adviser on Agriculture and Water Resources, Kamal Majidullah, over selection of a panel of lawyers and Pakistans lead jurist to defend Islamabads case before the court.
  
  They said Mr Majidullah had been seeking removal of Mr Shah for his insistence on continuing with the services of James Crawford as lead jurist and a panel of lawyers who had pleaded Pakistans case before a neutral expert on Baglihar Hydropower project, built by India on Chenab in violation of the 1960 waters treaty.
  
  Kamal Majidullah had suggested Professor Kaiyan Kaikobad as the lead jurist, but he died before a decision could be taken.
  
  Because of overwhelming support from various stakeholders, the government finally decided in favour of James Crawford to plead Pakistans case on Kishanganga, but relieved other lawyers.
  
  Mr Majidulalh and deputy attorney general K. K. Agha are now leading the government team.
  
  Mr Majidullah did not reply to telephone calls and text messages.
  
  Pakistan and India have agreed on the selection of two arbitrators each for the seven-member court of arbitration, but have failed so far to agree on the appointment of three arbitrators belonging to engineering and law to complete the adjudication forum for more than seven months now.
  
  Pakistan had formally sought constitution of a COA in May this year after having exhausted all bilateral avenues with India at permanent Indus commission and political levels to address its objections over the controversial construction of a 330-mw storage project through diversion of Neelum river.
  
  Mr Shah had asked the government in October last year to immediately take up its case before the COA.
  
  Under the treaty, the three independent arbitrators must be experts in water disputes, engineering and law. They should be members of either the International Court of Justice (ICJ), the World Bank or the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (US). In case of a disagreement on names, the three independent members are to be selected through a secret draw – a process which is still to be completed.
  
  Pakistan has already nominated Bruno Simma, a German jurist currently working with the ICJ, and Jan Paulson, a Norwegian from an international law firm as its arbitrators.
  
  India has nominated Peter Tomka, a Slovak national currently working as vice-president of the International Court of Justice, and Lucius Caflish, a professor at the Graduate Institute of International Studies, Geneva.
  
  “The time is of real essence and any delay will help only India,” an official of the water and power ministry said. Pakistan is opposed to the Kishanganga project because its diversion will reduce by 16 per cent the power generation capacity of the 969-MW Neelum-Jhelum power project on the same river downstream Muzaffarabad in Azad Kashmir. The project will cause a loss of energy worth Rs6 billion every year.
  
  Moreover, the diversion will reduce river flows near the Line of Control, on the Pakistan side, for at least six months and cause an irreparable loss to the environment, particularly the Musk Deer Gurez Park – a vast grassland in AJK near the LOC – and deprive the Neelum valley of tourism.
  
  Overall, about 200 kilometres of river bed in Azad Kashmir will be affected by the Kishanganga project. The river will turn dry over 40kms, a negation of international environmental laws. Under the law, at least 70 per cent of river flows are to be protected in case any project is taken in hand.
  
  Pakistan has also objected to the design of the Kishanganga project as it envisaged drawdown flushing, which is against the spirit of the 1960 treaty. The design will arm India with the power to cause floods and water scarcity on the Pakistani side
  

 

[volatile]

What level of lack of comprehension is at display here is mind boggling, and not just mind boggling but utterly humiliating for my ignoramus accost.

I'm literally flabbergasted here as you seem to simply Google-up things that suits you without actually knowing what the event was all about and was a twisted lie that was exposed as such soon after.

Read the following slowly and carefully dear, you might learn something:

What was twisted, planted and widely reported as a revelation by Imran Khan was actually comments by Justice Khosa while hearing the case in a five members bench headed by then CJ Anwar Zaheer Jamali and not some conspiracy as was portrayed by PID planted news feeds in various media.


A five-member apex court bench herd the case, comprising former CJP Answar Zaheer Jamali, Justice Asif Saeed Khosa, Justice Amir Hani Muslim, Justice Sheikh Azmat Saeed, and Justice Ijazul Hassan.

disgusting is the way this country is running without constitution ,Now SC is not apex or Criminal proceeding court ,SC is constitutional court ,and in the constitution there is no room for it to ask any one or any party to come to the court .When SC becomes APEX court it is directly coincide with constitution by the way the word constitution is used again and again since after fall of DHAKA 1973 constitution was formed to stop another Dhaka falling ,Learn to respect constitution ,SC in no right can play the role which it is playing now ,For all other matters it was always to be directed to NAB or lower courts

 

[Shane]

disgusting is the way this country is running without constitution ,Now SC is not apex or Criminal proceeding court ,SC is constitutional court ,and in the constitution there is no room for it to ask any one or any party to come to the court .When SC becomes APEX court it is directly coincide with constitution by the way the word constitution is used again and again since after fall of DHAKA 1973 constitution was formed to stop another Dhaka falling ,Learn to respect constitution ,SC in no right can play the role which it is playing now ,For all other matters it was always to be directed to NAB or lower courts

Dont keep falling for usual rona dhona by PMLN boot lickers turned sour.

Bakvas Sharif asked SCP CJ to intervene long before any comments by any Judge of any court let alone those of CJ Anwer Zaheer Jamali Himself.

Everything happening is as per the contitution and therefore, the haplessness of PMLN.

But i agree with you that the VIP protocoled trial of an ever free to cry and malign the state in public; Nawaz is in naked violation of rule of law, which is stringent but for the kammi voter, by the sitting government in full view.

 

[volatile]

Dont keep falling for usual rona dhona by PMLN boot lickers turned sour.

Bakvas Sharif asked SCP CJ to intervene long before any comments by any Judge of any court let alone those of CJ Anwer Zaheer Jamali Himself.

Everything happening is as per the contitution and therefore, the haplessness of PMLN.

But i agree with you that the VIP protocoled trial of an ever free to cry and malign the state in public; Nawaz is in naked violation of rule of law, which is stringent but for the kammi voter, by the sitting government in fu

They are not crying for themselves alone we all know what role SC has played in Pakistan from legitimizing Martial Laws to hanging electables .

 

[Shane]

They are not crying for themselves alone we all know what role SC has played in Pakistan from legitimizing Martial Laws to hanging electables .

To giving verdicts as ordered by Mian Sahiban... to perpetually overlooking Asghar Khan case about IJI funding...to kicking out CJ Sajjad Ali Shah...too letting Shahbaz Govern Punjab on a stay order for years on end...to brushing Hudaibya case under the carpet...etc etc etc

 

[volatile]

So you accept that Adalya the so called Messiah always play ,that is our point that nothing always come out of there actions

To giving verdicts as ordered by Mian Sahiban... to perpetually overlooking Asghar Khan case about IJI funding...to kicking out CJ Sajjad Ali Shah...too letting Shahbaz Govern Punjab on a stay order for years on end...to brushing Hudaibya case under the carpet...etc etc etc

 

[Shane]

So you accept that Adalya the so called Messiah always play ,that is our point that nothing always come out of there actions

Sorry my man, but nice try...

What you are saying doesn't mean always this or always that...you are blaming about Judiciary of the past that PMLN always itself took advantage of but is crying now that it cannot any more...

There is stark difference in what you are saying as in accusing this Judiciary now that it's doing its job and asking long pending answers from Sharifs...

... and equating it with that judiciary which always supported the corrupt and was mainly subservient of Mian Bradran.

 

[volatile]

Sorry my man, but nice try...

What you are saying doesn't mean always this or always that...you are blaming about Judiciary of the past that PMLN always itself took advantage of but is crying now that it cannot any more...

There is stark difference in what you are saying as in accusing this Judiciary now that it's doing its job and asking long pending answers from Sharifs...

... and equating it with that judiciary which always supported the corrupt and was mainly subservient of Mian Bradran.

Here mt friend you are wrong as every time its is necessary evil or Nazriya Zaroorat,Only history tells us all there decisions have made Pakistan a bad place .

E.g In 2007/8 Steel mill was going to be privatise for 22 Billion Rs but Adiyala in spirit of popularism stopped that privatism Now same steel mill has 180 Billion Rs loss and even Govt put 1 Rs to buy and no one wants to buy this elephant ,the criminal behaviour of Adliya continues even with PIA as well ,

 

[Shane]

Here mt friend you are wrong as every time its is necessary evil or Nazriya Zaroorat,Only history tells us all there decisions have made Pakistan a bad place .

E.g In 2007/8 Steel mill was going to be privatise for 22 Billion Rs but Adiyala in spirit of popularism stopped that privatism Now same steel mill has 180 Billion Rs loss and even Govt put 1 Rs to buy and no one wants to buy this elephant ,the criminal behaviour of Adliya continues even with PIA as well ,

That's such a shame, may be we should put on a loot sale like Mifta retorted, buy one, get one free.

The corrupt have such common interests.

Make an asset worthless first, buy it for scraps and enjoy the loot. Nice policy indeed.

Why didn't the government accept the offer by Russians to upgrade it?

Why didn't PMLN asked China to include Steel Mill upgrade in CPEC project but a completely unrelated Orange line train for Lahore was forcefully included in CPEC that has nothing to do with the trade corridor?

LOOTING NATIONAL ASSETS IS THE WORK OF TRAITORS.




Published Oct 23, 2017 07:17am
Centre’s help sought for recovery of Steel Mills land
KHALEEQ KIANI

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Steel Mills (PSM) has sought urgent help of the federal government to recover more than 1,800 acres of land from the Sindh government and private parties amid the Centre’s efforts to dole out pricy land near Karachi’s Bin Qasim Port for ‘selective’ settlement of liabilities on the balance sheet of the sick unit.

This comes as a newly formed PSM Stakeholders Group (PSMSG) comprising its employees, pensioners, suppliers, dealers and contractors has put up a Rs65 billion claim against the country’s largest industrial complex. It has warned the government not to transfer the expensive land to the National Bank of Pakistan (NBP) and the Sui Southern Gas Company Limited (SSGCL) under a selective “Liability Settlement Plan” at throwaway prices.

The entire process that has turned a profitable entity with tremendous growth potential into a white elephant over the last 10 years boils down to real estate booty, says Mumrez Khan, the convener of the PSMSG.