Stimson Poll: Vast Majority of Indians Believe Nuclear War Against Pakistan is Winnable

[Genghis khan1]

World is way too big. Exchange of Few dozen 10 to 15 kt wouldn’t change much drastically either in the climate or on the land outside subcontinent.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Imran Khan

IK sb,

they also believe in half elephant and half man /half monkey half human gods

A lot more harmless than wanting to fight a nuclear war, mercifully

Regards

@Imran Khan

IK sb,

they also believe in half elephant and half man /half monkey half human gods

A lot more harmless than wanting to fight a nuclear war, mercifully

Regards

 

[VkdIndian]

Mr Riaz Haq creates a thread. He mostly quotes his own articles and blogs as source. Please quote independent sources if you really want to create a convincing and authentic analysis.

Vast majority of Indians, including those who oppose Prime Minister Narendra Modi, believe that nuclear war is "winnable", according to the results of a Stimson Center poll released recently.

Nuclear policies may be decided by polls in a bana republic but in in India. The whole premise of this article is to create a clickbait thread and espouse a self created theory reeking of juvenile analysis.

If this theory concocted by you was really the case then few nuclear bombs would have been launched already.

 

[Azadkashmir]

nuclear tipped cow dung combined muttar will wipe out whole subcontinent.

vedic technology, wat you expect you low iq chinese and pakistanis.

 

[dilpakistani]

Pakistan’s longest range missile, Shaheen-III, has a max range of 2,750 kilometers. The missile uses a two-stage, solid propellant propulsion system. It is mounted on a Chinese TEL.
Given that Shaheen-III is Pakistan’s most powerful missile, it is essential to see how it fares with India’s most potent nuclear-capable missile — Agni-V.
Agni-V uses a three-stage, solid propellant propulsion system and is transported by a truck and launched with a canister. Its maximum velocity during the terminal phase reaches Mach 24. It is guided by a highly accurate ring laser gyroscope inertial navigation system that can strike a target within 10 meters.It has an operational range of 5,500-8,000 kilometers.It can even reach China’s eastern seaboard, where most of its economic output is concentrated.

In hindsight, there is no comparison between Shaheen-III and Agni-V as the latter completely outguns Shaheen-III due to its superior navigation system, propulsion, range, and terminal phase velocity. On top of that, Agni-V is an ICBM, whereas Shaheen-III is a medium-range ballistic missile. A better Indian missile to compare with Shaheen-III will be Agni-III.

Like Shaheen-III, Agni-III also has two-staged, Solid propellant propulsion. Agni-III has an edge over Shaheen-III in mobility and launch versatility.
While Shaheen-III is only road-mobile, Agni-III is both rail and road-mobile. Agni-III also has a superior guidance system than Shaheen-3. Agni-III operates on a Ring Laser Gyroscope inertial navigation system (same as Agni-V) and is augmented by GPS/NaVIC satellite guidance.

Pakistani's thinks that the Shaheen-III can impede India’s second-strike capability However, it is essential to note here that India has a functioning nuclear triad, and a mere targeting of its land-based launching facilities will not disable India’s second-strike capability.

Pakistan has come a long way in creating credible deterrence with the induction of Shaheen-III. However, they are still way behind India in missile technology. They will take centuries to catch up, even with the help of China.

khota bhai hum aisay missile ka kia karien gai jo sara india cross karkay Burma ko ja lgaya ya japan ko dabooo dai... We only need a delivery system that can reach to the far end of India... Global reach is not needed/required by us.

 

[mulj]

wast of them shit on streets and drink polluted waters.

 

[Imran Khan]

@Imran Khan

IK sb,

they also believe in half elephant and half man /half monkey half human gods

A lot more harmless than wanting to fight a nuclear war, mercifully

Regards

@Imran Khan

IK sb,

they also believe in half elephant and half man /half monkey half human gods

A lot more harmless than wanting to fight a nuclear war, mercifully

Regards

nukes are useless its just suicide button nothing more

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

Pakistan’s longest range missile, Shaheen-III, has a max range of 2,750 kilometers. The missile uses a two-stage, solid propellant propulsion system. It is mounted on a Chinese TEL.
Given that Shaheen-III is Pakistan’s most powerful missile, it is essential to see how it fares with India’s most potent nuclear-capable missile — Agni-V.
Agni-V uses a three-stage, solid propellant propulsion system and is transported by a truck and launched with a canister. Its maximum velocity during the terminal phase reaches Mach 24. It is guided by a highly accurate ring laser gyroscope inertial navigation system that can strike a target within 10 meters.It has an operational range of 5,500-8,000 kilometers.It can even reach China’s eastern seaboard, where most of its economic output is concentrated.

In hindsight, there is no comparison between Shaheen-III and Agni-V as the latter completely outguns Shaheen-III due to its superior navigation system, propulsion, range, and terminal phase velocity. On top of that, Agni-V is an ICBM, whereas Shaheen-III is a medium-range ballistic missile. A better Indian missile to compare with Shaheen-III will be Agni-III.

Like Shaheen-III, Agni-III also has two-staged, Solid propellant propulsion. Agni-III has an edge over Shaheen-III in mobility and launch versatility.
While Shaheen-III is only road-mobile, Agni-III is both rail and road-mobile. Agni-III also has a superior guidance system than Shaheen-3. Agni-III operates on a Ring Laser Gyroscope inertial navigation system (same as Agni-V) and is augmented by GPS/NaVIC satellite guidance.

Pakistani's thinks that the Shaheen-III can impede India’s second-strike capability However, it is essential to note here that India has a functioning nuclear triad, and a mere targeting of its land-based launching facilities will not disable India’s second-strike capability.

Pakistan has come a long way in creating credible deterrence with the induction of Shaheen-III. However, they are still way behind India in missile technology. They will take centuries to catch up, even with the help of China.

Hmm.... wanna test your luck?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

nukes are useless its just suicide button nothing more

Iraqis, afghans, Syrians and Libyans would strongly disagree.

 

[TNT]

Pakistan’s longest range missile, Shaheen-III, has a max range of 2,750 kilometers. The missile uses a two-stage, solid propellant propulsion system. It is mounted on a Chinese TEL.
Given that Shaheen-III is Pakistan’s most powerful missile, it is essential to see how it fares with India’s most potent nuclear-capable missile — Agni-V.
Agni-V uses a three-stage, solid propellant propulsion system and is transported by a truck and launched with a canister. Its maximum velocity during the terminal phase reaches Mach 24. It is guided by a highly accurate ring laser gyroscope inertial navigation system that can strike a target within 10 meters.It has an operational range of 5,500-8,000 kilometers.It can even reach China’s eastern seaboard, where most of its economic output is concentrated.

In hindsight, there is no comparison between Shaheen-III and Agni-V as the latter completely outguns Shaheen-III due to its superior navigation system, propulsion, range, and terminal phase velocity. On top of that, Agni-V is an ICBM, whereas Shaheen-III is a medium-range ballistic missile. A better Indian missile to compare with Shaheen-III will be Agni-III.

Like Shaheen-III, Agni-III also has two-staged, Solid propellant propulsion. Agni-III has an edge over Shaheen-III in mobility and launch versatility.
While Shaheen-III is only road-mobile, Agni-III is both rail and road-mobile. Agni-III also has a superior guidance system than Shaheen-3. Agni-III operates on a Ring Laser Gyroscope inertial navigation system (same as Agni-V) and is augmented by GPS/NaVIC satellite guidance.

Pakistani's thinks that the Shaheen-III can impede India’s second-strike capability However, it is essential to note here that India has a functioning nuclear triad, and a mere targeting of its land-based launching facilities will not disable India’s second-strike capability.

Pakistan has come a long way in creating credible deterrence with the induction of Shaheen-III. However, they are still way behind India in missile technology. They will take centuries to catch up, even with the help of China.

U must be really stupid to compare ICBM with IrBM. Also the accuracy doesn't really matter for nuclear weapons. Centuries to catch up? I guess u r that pajeet who lives in ancient india and does space travel daily.

No wonder indians are the most stupid people. Even here u can see indians thinking a nuclear war is winnable and do dumb comparisons.

 

[waz]

Stimson Poll: Vast Majority of Indians Believe Nuclear War Against Pakistan is Winnable

Vast majority of Indians, including those who oppose Prime Minister Narendra Modi, believe that nuclear war is "winnable", according to the ...

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Vast majority of Indians, including those who oppose Prime Minister Narendra Modi, believe that nuclear war is "winnable", according to the results of a Stimson Center poll released recently. They want their country to build a bigger nuclear arsenal than China and Pakistan combined. Responding to the clamor for more nukes, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi said in 2019 that Indian nuclear weapons were not kept as mere showpieces. Strong belief about India's ability to win a nuclear war against Pakistan cuts across party lines with 91% of those who support Mr. Modi and 85% of those who don't. Recently, a group of researchers at Rutgers University considered a hypothetical nuclear conflict between India and Pakistan as they believed such a conflict was the most likely. The group warned that an India-Pakistan nuclear exchange will be catastrophic for the region with tens of millions of immediate fatalities in the war zone, followed by hundreds of millions of starvation deaths around the globe.

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Indians Believe Nuclear War in Winnable. Source: Stimson Center

The poll also finds that the overwhelming majority of Indians are confident their military can defeat both China and Pakistan. They expect that the United States military would come to India's aid in the event of a war with China or Pakistan. Stimson Center analysts believe that "Indian self-confidence may lead to mistaken popular views of Indian military prowess: India has considerable military capabilities against its most likely regional opponents. Yet Indian confidence that India would likely defeat China or Pakistan may exceed what a careful net assessment might warrant".

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Nuclear Arsenals of India, Pakistan and China. Source: The Economist

The nuclear arsenals of India, Pakistan and China are small but growing faster than those of other nuclear-armed countries, according to a report in The Economist magazine. The combined nuclear stockpiles of China (350 warheads), India (160) and Pakistan (165) now exceed British and French arsenals in Europe (around 500 in total). All three countries are now building their own nuclear “triads”: nukes deliverable from land, air and sea.

The Stimson survey was conducted by phone with a random sample of 7000 Indians between April 13 and May 14, 2022. Below are its key findings as reported by Christopher Clary, Sameer Lalwani, Niloufer Siddiqui and Neelanjan Sircar:

1. High levels of support for Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who likely remains among the most popular national leaders in the world today;

2. Extraordinary nationalist sentiment among Indians, at high levels compared to prior cross-national surveys using identical question wording;

3. Troubling signs of intolerance toward India’s large Muslim minority, which helps provide context to recent controversies;

4. Strong confidence in the Indian government’s ability to defend India against potential domestic and foreign threats;

5. Expectations among a majority of Indian respondents that the U.S. military would support India in the event of a war with China or Pakistan; and

6. Large majorities in favor of Indian numerical nuclear superiority against its adversaries.

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Stimson Poll: Vast Majority of Indians Believe Nuclear War Against Pakistan is Winnable

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There’s been a fair few Indian posters who have said the same thing over the years. One unforgettable idiot stated that Pakistan’s bombs were puny 12kt devices which if all used couldn’t even damage half of Mumbai. When I showed him posts from one of the most respected nuclear physicists in the world that Pakistan’s arsenal was far stronger now, plutonium based and weapons in the several hundreds kilotons he argued the man didn’t know what he was talking about.
Special breed of idiot the Indian troll is, you won’t see it anywhere else.

 

[313ghazi]

Pakistan’s longest range missile, Shaheen-III, has a max range of 2,750 kilometers. The missile uses a two-stage, solid propellant propulsion system. It is mounted on a Chinese TEL.
Given that Shaheen-III is Pakistan’s most powerful missile, it is essential to see how it fares with India’s most potent nuclear-capable missile — Agni-V.
Agni-V uses a three-stage, solid propellant propulsion system and is transported by a truck and launched with a canister. Its maximum velocity during the terminal phase reaches Mach 24. It is guided by a highly accurate ring laser gyroscope inertial navigation system that can strike a target within 10 meters.It has an operational range of 5,500-8,000 kilometers.It can even reach China’s eastern seaboard, where most of its economic output is concentrated.

In hindsight, there is no comparison between Shaheen-III and Agni-V as the latter completely outguns Shaheen-III due to its superior navigation system, propulsion, range, and terminal phase velocity. On top of that, Agni-V is an ICBM, whereas Shaheen-III is a medium-range ballistic missile. A better Indian missile to compare with Shaheen-III will be Agni-III.

Like Shaheen-III, Agni-III also has two-staged, Solid propellant propulsion. Agni-III has an edge over Shaheen-III in mobility and launch versatility.
While Shaheen-III is only road-mobile, Agni-III is both rail and road-mobile. Agni-III also has a superior guidance system than Shaheen-3. Agni-III operates on a Ring Laser Gyroscope inertial navigation system (same as Agni-V) and is augmented by GPS/NaVIC satellite guidance.

Pakistani's thinks that the Shaheen-III can impede India’s second-strike capability However, it is essential to note here that India has a functioning nuclear triad, and a mere targeting of its land-based launching facilities will not disable India’s second-strike capability.

Pakistan has come a long way in creating credible deterrence with the induction of Shaheen-III. However, they are still way behind India in missile technology. They will take centuries to catch up, even with the help of China.

Do you know how much of India Shaheen 3 covers?

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Nuclear Bombs are the only showcase now ....

It is actually solved the Kashmir Issue and other border issues with China... (Small border incidents will be happening)

I don't see any war In the future... Yes, Only WAR will happen on PDF, media, and political desks in both the countries...

 

[hyperman]

I read the article and thought no way, there is no way someone is this stupid regarding Mutually Assured destruction, article has to be wrong, then the idiots come out of the woodworks and actually prove the article correct. And another idiot said that this sort of ignorance is a "good thing".

Godi Media really has transplanted cow shit into people's brains.

Mutually Assured destruction is understood very well by the American Public(and the European Public for that matter), with regards to US Russia relations, and US China relations, and the US is several continents away and with a far more sophisticated military capability. And yet these morons are this delusional about Nuclear Armed states that they share a border with.

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Education levels really are trash over there, every kid learns about Mutually Assured Destruction in elementary school here as part of any course on the cold war and post ww2 history classes, it seems that may not be the case in India.


Word to the Wise, never get high on your own supply, its important to get outside perspective and assesses matters, so you don't get blinded by your own biases.

 

[FuturePAF]

Nuclear wars are only winable when your enemy is situated across a sea.
In our case, either India is attacking Pakistan or Pakistan attacking India, we both are dead. And the part getting atracked will be uninhabitable for centuries.

True, except the part of the area being uninhabited for centuries. But the destruction will definitely have direct global implications for years, especially if H bombs are used.