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Steve Bannon: 'We're going to war in the South China Sea ... no doubt'

btw, I don't agree with the content I posted. I think it's flawed.

Trump is not stupid enough to start a war of aggression on a player like China.


don't be jingoistic, it's fairly obvious that the Chinese are no match to even just the USN, let alone their full conventional military capabilities.

who knows, Trump might even get the Chinese to participate in the war on ISIS, you never know..


the US have a lot more of everything, they just don't do parades with them.

If you don't agree with the content why make the thread while the news was already posted not so long ago ?
I'm not sure how much you look down on the PLA but China certainly is not as weak as you may think. The US don't do parades like China and Russia so? Does that mean the US have hidden so much more advanced weaponry that the world has no clue about? And do you think that China and Russia would display all our cards to the world during the parades?

The US may be the strongest but weren't they that already after the end of WW2 when they were unscathed while the rest of the world were devastated? That didn't stop the Chinese army freaking the Yankees out during the Korean War. The US is actually a mere coward, always dragging other countries to help them out in aggressive wars such as the Korean War, Iraq War, Afghanistan do i need to say more? Even a 2 decades of war in Vietnam the Yankees failed to conquer Vietnam thanks to Chinese help which some Overseas Viets here don't want to credit China for its help. Yes the US has advanced stuffs and experience in fighting modern wars so does that make China and Russia cowards or weaklings? The US is only good at hammering weak countries and guys like you are brainwashed to believe they are so uber strong.
 
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ever thought a second how the US responds if you fire BM from China?

It's an anti-ship missile. It's not targeting any US cities. It's dubbed a carrier killer.
 
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I LOOKED TWICE BUT COULDN'T SEE USA FLAG ANYWHERE DOWN THERE o_O WHY'S USA GONNA GO TO WAR :girl_wacko:
 
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@Tehari_Haleem you should ask the Viets here, they believe Japanese and Americans will send their men to die (becoming human meat shields) so that Vietnam, Philippines can keep those islands or expand them. Again US is no claimant, has no territorial disputes in that region so all comes down to the fact they are just stirring up trouble. Even the Yankees told Duterte to f*ck off they ain't gonna pay the $30 million fee for that arbitration case. :lol:
 
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If you don't agree with the content why make the thread while the news was already posted not so long ago ?
Oh, was it, where ? I searched and it didn't pop up in the related threads box while making the thread either.

don't shoot the messenger.

I'm not sure how much you look down on the PLA but China certainly is not as weak as you may think. The US don't do parades like China and Russia so? Does that mean the US have hidden so much more advanced weaponry that the world has no clue about? And do you think that China and Russia would display all our cards to the world during the parades?
First off, I do not 'look down' on the PLA, and I don't think they're 'weak' at all but let's be honest when comparing to the USN ok ?

btw, in case you didn't know, we parade our shit here in India too lol... and they even removed the nuke ones when Abe was chief guest not so long ago LOL, mistake, Abe probably wants nothing more than to have nukes of his own to fend you lot off.

The US may be the strongest but weren't they that already after the end of WW2 when they were unscathed while the rest of the world were devastated? That didn't stop the Chinese army freaking the Yankees out during the Korean War. The US is actually a mere coward, always dragging other countries to help them out in aggressive wars such as the Korean War, Iraq War, Afghanistan do i need to say more? Even a 2 decades of war in Vietnam the Yankees failed to conquer Vietnam thanks to Chinese help which some Overseas Viets here don't want to credit China for its help. Yes the US has advanced stuffs and experience in fighting modern wars so does that make China and Russia cowards or weaklings? The US is only good at hammering weak countries and guys like you are brainwashed to believe they are so uber strong.
valid criticism, most of it, I'm not interested in arguing in favour of the US' many military misadventures over the decades lol

with Trump now though, there is going to be real change, let's see how it goes.. I don't want to see a US-China war, **** that.
 
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@Tehari_Haleem you should ask the Viets here, they believe Japanese and Americans will send their men to die (becoming human meat shields) so that Vietnam, Philippines can keep those islands or expand them. Again US is no claimant, has no territorial disputes in that region so all comes down to the fact they are just stirring up trouble. Even the Yankees told Duterte to f*ck off they ain't gonna pay the $30 million fee for that arbitration case. :lol:
Ask yourself and find the answer! If you don't know here is it: we don't claim the entire waterways as ancient territory. Unlike you!
 
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obviously war is the last resort. There are numerous steps China can take to prevent war.
 
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China has accused Donald Trump's administration of putting regional stability in East Asia at risk following remarks by the President's defense secretary that a U.S. commitment to defend Japanese territory applies to an island group that China claims.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang has called on Trump's administration to avoid discussion of the issue and reasserted China's claim of sovereignty over the tiny uninhabited islands, known in Japanese as the Senkaku and Chinese as Diaoyu.

The 1960 US-Japan treaty is "a product of the Cold War, which should not impair China's territorial sovereignty and legitimate rights," Lu was quoted as saying in a statement posted on the ministry's website.

"We urge the U.S. side to take a responsible attitude, stop making wrong remarks on the issue involving the Diaoyu islands' sovereignty, and avoid making the issue more complicated and bringing instability to the regional situation," he added.

Widespread alarm over how the region could shape geopolitical tensions was raised following the revelation that Steve Bannon, the chief strategist in Trump's White House, said he believed the US would go to war with China within five to 10 years during a radio broadcast in 2016.

While the prospect remains relatively remote, experts have toldThe Independent they believe such a conflict would be catastrophic, throwing the entire globe into turmoil and potentially ending "life as we know it on Earth".

The United States would likely win because sending China's untested forces against the might of America's military would be like pitching farmers against Achilles and his warriors, said one, but even a conventional military victory would be a strategic disaster. It would set off a global economic crisis and create a potential power vacuum inside defeated China "the like of which we can't imagine".

Mr Bannon said war would erupt in the South China Sea in "five to 10 years". He said: "They’re taking their sandbars and making basically stationary aircraft carriers and putting missiles on those. They come here to the United States in front of our face—and you understand how important face is—and say it’s an ancient territorial sea."

The US and China have been engaged in a back-and-forth dispute over military build-up and territorial claims in the region for some years. In December the US said it would base its deadliest fighter jets in Australia, and days later China seized an unmanned US Navy drone.

It followed a diplomatic spat around then-President-elect Trump's congratulatory phone call with Taiwan's Prime Minister Tsai Ing-wen, which broke with decades of US policy. Mr Trump has been forthright about China's influence, blaming it for the loss of American jobs.

The war of words recently heated up when a Chinese military official was quoted as saying talk of war with the US under Mr Trump "are not just slogans, they are becoming a practical reality".

Trevor McCrisken, associate professor of politics and international studies at the University of Warwick, said that if war broke out "we would be looking, I would imagine, at World War Three".

He said: "I really do think that would be the end of life as we know it on Earth.

"From a global strategic risk level I would say the last thing you want is war between the United States and any of the major powers because of the risks of escalation, obviously the potential for nuclear weapons to be used. The likelihood of nuclear exchange between the two principals involved is high."

But, he added, the "overwhelming view of most policy-makers in Washington since at least the late 1970s" favours a form of "cooperative, if competitive" relationship with China.

Dr Peter Roberts, director of military sciences at the Royal United Services Institute, said: "America would take military losses. They would lose thousands and thousands [of personnel]. But China would be utterly defeated. If America goes to war, it wages war in its totality. They would go to this with unparalleled violence and energy."

The US has an "overall competitive edge" partly due to technological superiority, Dr Roberts said, but also because the four branches of its military—Army, Navy, Marine Corps and Air Force—are trained to work closely together. "It's demonstrated how it can use all those arms to deliver military victory," he said.

In contrast, China's services operate "individually" and also have less, and less recent, combat experience compared to their American counterparts. "There's a huge difference between someone who's been in combat before, and someone who hasn't," Dr Roberts said, comparing the potential confrontation to one between Greek hero Achilles and farmers recruited from the fields.

Kerry Brown, professor of Chinese studies and director of King's College London's Lau China Institute, said: "US naval superiority is massive. And if we are talking just military, then for sure, a conflict right beside China would hurt China more than the US.

"It would, of course, totally upend supply routes, however, and probably cause a global recession. So it would, no matter who won in terms of military outcomes, be lose-lose and cut against the logic of self interest of both the US and China."

Professor Brown added: "We have to expect this war of words to simply get worse. The best outcome is that the two sides ultimately compromise—China acts more responsibly, and stops its adventurism, and the US concedes it more space. The worst outcome would be a misunderstanding that would lead to real conflict."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...bannon-donald-trump-white-house-a7561821.html
 
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It's an anti-ship missile. It's not targeting any US cities. It's dubbed a carrier killer.
Don't be naive. It is a ballistic missile. US spy satellites will notice immediately or after latest 1 minute, alerting possible US troops being hit, after the missile is launched. Let assume the US missile strategic force have reasonable people and don't overreact by guessing it is a nuclear armed missile and waiting for the impact. Let assume the missile hits a US warship and kills all sailors aboard. What do you think what the US would respond?

If I was you living in the near of the Chinese launch site, I would begin to count down the seconds before US missiles fired by submarines and destroyers are raining down.
 
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US should mind its own business. China is not weak or a banana Republic it can defend its self from any mis adventure from its enemies
 
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I want the US regime rhetoric under Trump to continue. US has just become a one-notch smaller country the moment they began to think big mouth talking heads at the senior level makes a country bigger or scarier.

Look, in mere two-three weeks, how many states the US neofascist regime has angered.

Do you think China would like it to stop?

Aren't mad dogs and p****-grabbers are all about barking and tough talking in the closet?

US regime is a strategic minion right now. Smart countries will take advantage of it.
 
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I want the US regime rhetoric under Trump to continue. US has just become a one-notch smaller country the moment they began to think big mouth talking heads at the senior level makes a country bigger or scarier.

Look, in mere two-three weeks, how many states the US neofascist regime has angered.

Do you think China would like it to stop?

Aren't mad dogs and p****-grabbers are all about barking and tough talking in the closet?

US regime is a strategic minion right now. Smart countries will take advantage of it.
Arabs already on board...
 
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