Stephen Hawking says 'nothing' was around before origin of universe

[SecularNationalist]

True dude ..
U know i dont mind peaceful rational preaching but finger pointing , shaming and being annoying is what disgusts me . It actually shows their own chatacter that what kinda person they are .

I don,t know its just me or happened with everyone else but i never a met a molvi who is honest and show the qualities of a good human being.I saw all of them talking big on loudspeakers and in front of people criticizing our youth for adopting western culture but behind doors they all were drinkers and womanizers .In saw them taking bribes where they work.Bloody hypocrites have no integrity and honor.They are alive because it,s illegal to shoot them.

 

[Well.wisher]

I don,t know its just me or happened with everyone else but i never a met a molvi who is honest and show the qualities of a good human being.I saw all of them talking big on loudspeakers and in front of people criticizing our youth for adopting western culture but behind doors they all were drinkers and womanizers .In saw them taking bribes where they work.Bloody hypocrites have no integrity and honor.They are alive because it,s illegal to shoot them.

I also saw one who happened to be a pedophile while wearing the cover of a molvi.


I've a rule , I don't consider such people worthy of attention whose aims are only to disparage others while glorifying themselves as higher and holier .

God is for all and he alone is questioner of yours and my activities ... you not try to interfere between me nd God when infact you yourself are filled with dirt and stink inside .



P'.s ..again . I didn't mean ' you ' as you .. its a general term .n

 

[spinghar renacido]

my two cents, . Big Bang is currently the most popular model to explain the beginning of the universe, in fact it is not a theory but combinations of theory who at times matured, added and removed from the model. it is not the only model existed to explain the beginning of the universe. before big Bang theory was proposed, the common assumption among the cosmologist were that the universe has no beginning, there are other popular model, some recently proposed by great scientist, all of them have limitation and does not explain fully the beginning of the universe. These models are not always based on observation, but how much they satisfy the current physic laws and the state of the universe. who knows in future other models takes over big bang.

it does not matter for the science what happened before the big bang, or who bang the big bang, because that is a pseudo science. it has to assume that the current science started with the big bang.
Stephen Hawking has said that "Since events before the Big Bang have no observational consequences, one may as well cut them out of the theory, and say that time began at the Big Bang. Events before the Big Bang, are simply not defined, because there's no way one could measure what happened at them".
Stephen hawking was a great scientist, and a disbeliever in a sense that he believed that the universe does not need Supreme being to function. To me the Question of GOD is a philosophical one and not a scientific question. please spare the science and Stephen Hawking

 

[SecularNationalist]

I also saw one who happened to be a pedophile while wearing the cover of a molvi.


I've a rule , I don't consider such people worthy of attention whose aims are only to disparage others while glorifying themselves as higher and holier .

God is for all and he alone is questioner of yours and my activities ... you not try to interfere between me nd God when infact you yourself are filled with dirt and stink inside .



P'.s ..again . I didn't mean ' you ' as you .. its a general term .n

Yes it also pisses me off when someone poke his/her nose in my personal affairs on the basis of religion.Religion is merely a matter between man and god.In pakistan this habit of people makes me really angry.

 

[Well.wisher]

Yes it also pisses me off when someone poke his/her nose in my personal affairs on the basis of religion.Religion is merely a matter between man and god.In pakistan this habit of people makes me really angry.

True .
We should never judge anyone's religiosity or character on basis of what we see . We should rather wait and be tolerant and should not mistreat anyone .


You never know what's in hearts . ;

Sometimes what you see outside is deceiving .

 

[Chhatrapati]

True .
We should never judge anyone's religiosity or character on basis of what we see . We should rather wait and be tolerant and should not mistreat anyone .


You never know what's in hearts . ;

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Sometimes what you see outside is deceiving .

That image is a bit cringy. Not sure it will go well.

That's why I posted this, for those who were cheering him as a pro. He was nothing but some overrated baboon cheered up by Atheists and Agnostics after his foolish book.

What an epic failure.

 

[Well.wisher]

That image is a bit cringy. Not sure it will go well.
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What's so cringy about it ?
U never know a mullah that covers himself in a holier appearance is not that holier as you perceive him to be ... and sometimes the girl you bully for wearing this and that . Might be holier but does not like to pretend it .

That image is a bit cringy. Not sure it will go well.
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Now I didn't intend to again pointing on the religiosity as I don't believe that religiosity is all that describes a person and his character .


It's just u could say , I posted cause I believe that sometimes what u see is different than what it is in reality .

 

[Chhatrapati]

What's so cringy about it ?
U never know a mullah that covers himself in a holier appearance is not that holier as you perceive him to be ... and sometimes the girl you bully for wearing this and that . Might be holier but does not like to pretend it .

I hope by 'you', you meant general pop. *pun intended*.

The only thing cringy about it is, from my pov, confining feminism about dresses or Burkha and doing what 'men do'(If only I'm allowed to say that). otoh, appearance does matter irrespective the person is male or female, in most of the cases, from my experience men who tend to be mullah (not sure why these terms are so negative in Pakistan mullah, Madressa) are well versed and holier. Women!? I perceive Burkha clad to be religious better than the other half in your picture. *Just my perception*

 

[Well.wisher]

I hope by 'you', you meant general pop. *pun intended*.

The only thing cringy about it is, from my pov, confining feminism about dresses or Burkha and doing what 'men do'(If only I'm allowed to say that). otoh, appearance does matter irrespective the person is male or female, in most of the cases, from my experience men who tend to be mullah (not sure why these terms are so negative in Pakistan mullah, Madressa) are well versed and holier. *

Not all are like that my friend .
Remember imran naqshbandi?
Who was he to the world ? A naat reciting holy person with a beard nd graceful religious appearance ... but what he turned out to be ? A pedophile , murderer .

I'm again saying ... not all those who dress in religious appearance are monsters or hypocrites .. many among them are true nd genuine to their appearance ....
And then there are guys roaming around in pant shirt , who doesn't give you a perception of a religious ones but when time comes they prove to be the most noble pious person you've ever seen .


Same goes for women .

Appearances are deceiving dude , very deceiving .

 

[SALMAN F]

Humanity list one of the greatest minds

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

No dude , it' depends on a person how much he has learned . Being religious is not a problem , but being insane is. A wise religious would know where to stick his religious views and where it's inappropriate and unnecessary .
You cannot go and interfere your religion in Evrything . You donot look at things only by religious perspective , all things are not made on religious laws of good and bad .

Sometimes you've to appreciate what is considered bad in religion because its aimed at providing benefits to the soceity .

If you look at all things by a religious approach then you will be implying that you're a low intellect person who holds himself high and holier than others.


P.S by ' you ' I didn't mean you , it's just a general term I used .

He didn't mean it in a way that religion restricts people from looking into these things. But it's hard to make any discoveries when you're not ready to question everything (which is something a religious POV makes it hard to do). Let's say we know that electrons spin around a nucleus in an atom but we don't know the reason, but we don't know the reason. From a religious POV it'd be easier to accept that that's just how God intended it to be but you need to ignore this thought and press on to determine the reason from a scientific POV. Like I said it's not that religion doesn't allow you to do this. The Qur'an says in several places that Allah wants his beings to discover and be curious about the universe he has created but once you go down the rail road of questioning everything (like most scientists do) it's almost impossible to maintain a religious mindset.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Not all are like that my friend .
Remember imran naqshbandi?
Who was he to the world ? A naat reciting holy person with a beard nd graceful religious appearance ... but what he turned out to be ? A pedophile , murderer .

Yeah. Not saying every such person is a saint. I was speaking strictly from my personal experience.

I'm again saying ... not all those who dress in religious appearance are monsters or hypocrites .. many among them are true nd genuine to their appearance .

A majority I would say.

perception of a religious ones but when time comes they prove to be the most noble pious person you've ever seen .

I think one must be modest in appearance. And that's not limited just women. Getting to know comes later.

Appearances are deceiving dude , very deceiving .

In some cases.

 

[Human One]

How do you get something out of nothing ? My dude just violated the conservative of mass and energy.

That's a good question. It's clear that while many people have different ideas about the origin of the universe, nobody really knows yet. It's likely to take a very long time for people to find out, maybe thousands more years.

 

[Che palle]

yes it is possible, it is, because there was once an article over an internet. you are such a shame for atheist all over the hell

I cited one article and there are many others. Its been experimentally shown too.

I'll believe what I want to believe, you can't do anything about it.

 

[SecularNationalist]

True .
We should never judge anyone's religiosity or character on basis of what we see . We should rather wait and be tolerant and should not mistreat anyone .


You never know what's in hearts . ;

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Sometimes what you see outside is deceiving .

I wish more people would have a understanding like you in our conservative country.
We can never a judge persons moral character on the basis how religious he/she is.Religion is not a bench mark of goodness and high moral character.There are numerous examples of non muslims and atheists who did more good for this world than a religious person who in most occasions incite hate and anger towards other human beings.
That burka image above is so true.Definitely not all burka girls are same but my personal experience tells otherwise.Now you will be thinking why i always run into bad people Well that,s my bad luck i guess
Anyways i know a burka wearing girl who was giving religious lectures and persuading others girls to wear a burka but she was dating 4 guys at a same time.Well i lived abroad and over there girls were not hypocrites at least they were a like a open book. Now you decide who is more moral and honest an islamic burka wearing hypocrite or a european girl?