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From much sought after to ‘most wanted’ By Zahid Hussain Sunday, 31 May, 2009 | 04:47 AM PST

THE faces of militant commanders for whose capture the government has announced millions of rupees seem all too familiar. Just three weeks before the start of the latest round of military operation in Swat I met most of them — not in their mountainous hideouts, but in the official residence of a top bureaucrat in Mingora, barely a few hundred metres from the army garrison.

Accompanied by dozens of well armed Taliban fighters, Muslim Khan, Sirajuddin, Mahmmod Khan and some others (who are said to be responsible for killings of hundreds of soldiers and civilians) were being hosted by the former commissioner of Malakand, Syed Mohammad Javed. The only person conspicuous by his absence was Maulana Fazlullah, the man with a head money of Rs50 million. “He is in Kabal for some important work,” I was told by one of his lieutenants.

It was April 12 and the commissioner had just returned from Buner where he had apparently brokered a truce between the Taliban threatening the district after the Swat peace deal and the local Lashkar who had long resisted the militant onslaught. It later transpired that the so-called peace accord virtually disarmed the Lashkar and handed over the control of Buner to Taliban.

There was little doubt that Mr Javed, who was known for close links with Sufi Mohammed, had drawn the accord to the advantage of the Taliban. But even he couldn’t have anticipated the consequences. It seemed that the militant commanders had gathered at the Commissioner House that evening to celebrate the takeover of Buner after consolidating their hold on Swat on the back of the controversial peace accord.

Sitting in a corner of a large open veranda crammed with gun wielding Taliban fighters, I saw them arriving one by one with their armed escorts. There was Muslim Khan with his unruly grey beard, curly locks cascading down from his black turban, walking arrogantly past the police and paramilitary soldiers.

The man who now has a reward of Rs4 million on his head looked at home in the hospitable setting of the Commissioner House that night.

I was taken aback to see top government officials standing there to receive the man who was responsible for ordering the execution of innocent civilians. Earlier in the day when I went to interview him in Imam Dehri Madressah, he showed me a list of people whose execution orders were to be issued. Among them was a woman whose husband had allegedly served in the US army.

“We are looking for her and she will soon come under the knife,” the chief spokesman for the militants said smugly. Interestingly enough, Mr Khan himself had lived in the United States for many years before returning to Swat in 2002 to join Maulana Fazlullah’s “holy war”. It was bizarre to see him being entertained by government officials.

Sirajuddin, a former spokesman for Maulana Fazlullah who also has a bounty of Rs4 million for his capture, was huddled in a corner with some of his comrades. A thin framed man, he was appointed by Maulana Fazlullah to look after the rich emerald mines which the Taliban had seized after the February peace deal.

A former left-wing activist, he received his higher education in Kabul in 1980s during the communist rule in Afghanistan. He planned to join Lumumba University, but had to return home for reasons not known. His transformation from a hard core socialist to a radical Muslim came in late 1990s when like many young men he fell under the spell of Maulana Fazlullah’s fiery sermons.

I met Sirajuddin for the first time in November 2007, just few weeks after the start of the first army operation in Swat. The area around Dehri was under militant control. Masked gunmen were entrenched in their bunkers just a few hundred metres from Saidu Sharif airport, where army troops had taken up positions.

The sound of artillery shells landing was getting ominously closer. The meeting abruptly ended after a shell exploded outside the house where we were sitting. He looked triumphant when I met him again on the evening of April 12.

More shock was in store when later that evening I saw Faqir Mohammed walking in with a large entourage. Escorted by an Uzbek bodyguard he was whisked inside a large hall where a number of commanders squatted on a carpeted floor. One of the top leaders of Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, Faqir Mohammed, has been spearheading the bloody war against Pakistani forces in Bajaur tribal region.

Because of his close links with Al Qaeda, security agencies considered Faqir Mohammed more dangerous than Baitullah Mehsud. The presence of Pakistan’s most wanted militant leader at the Commissioner House that evening, when the fighting still raged in Bajaur, was intriguing, to say the least. The widespread public cynicism about the action against militants was not without any basis.

It is almost four weeks now since the army launched the new offensive against the militants in Swat and Buner, dislocating more than three million people and leaving around 100 soldiers killed.

The army now seems determined to eliminate Fazlullah and his commanders. “But will there be any accountability of those who were responsible for the return of Taliban in Malakand division. Could not the current devastation have been avoided if these wanted men were eliminated earlier instead of being patronised by the administration,” wondered a Swat resident now forced to live with his family in Mardan.

Very interesting and disturbing informatoin, why did it take them so long to launch this ongoing final assault.
 
Ex-commissioner Malakand being interrogated by Army intelligence

Wednesday, June 10, 2009
By Usman Manzoor

ISLAMABAD: The Army spokesman has confirmed that the ex-commissioner Malakand is in the custody of intelligence agencies for interrogation.

Syed Muhammad Javed, who played a crucial role in striking a peace deal in Swat, is said to have links to the Taliban and a segment of the press has held him responsible for the killing of four military commandos.

Director-General Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Major-General Athar Abbas told The News that Muhammad Javed was under interrogation by intelligence agencies. He said the fate of the ex-commissioner could be decided after interrogation. “It’s too early to say anything. Let the interrogation complete,” said the Army spokesman.

However, sources close to Javed said that he was being made a scapegoat in the commandos killing case. They claimed Javed held talks and meetings with the Taliban on behalf of the government.

Zahid Khan, the spokesman for the ANP, admitted that it was him who had initiated talks with Sufi Muhammad because both of them hailed from the same area. He said that Sufi Muhammad was released by the ANP government after taking the federal government on board. He admitted that Syed Muhammad Javed used to accompany the ANP leaders when talks were held with Sufi.

A top ANP leader told this correspondent in a background discussion that the Army had taped telephone calls of Muhammad Javed in which he was talking to the Taliban.

The former Malakand commissioner, he said, used to accompany the ANP leaders whenever they held talks with Sufi Muhammad. He said two suicide bombers also used to be present during the talks. The ANP leader said that there were complaints that the former Malakand commissioner had links to both the Tehrik Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Muhammadi (TNSM) and the Taliban.

Ex-commissioner Malakand being
 
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Action afoot against former Malakand commissioner

Action afoot against former Malakand commissioner

Updated at: 1925 PST, Tuesday, June 23, 2009

PESHAWAR: Awami National Party (ANP) President for NWFP Senator Afrasiab Khattak said the former Malakand Commissioner is in the custody of the security forces.

Addressing a seminar here, he revealed a lawsuit of sedition has been filed against him and his accomplices and action against him is underway.

The former commissioner not only mis-stated, but also committed treason; therefore, action has been taken against him.

Afrasiab Khattak said the action is afoot against other government officials who abetted the former Malakand commissioner.

The commissioner has been nabbed on stopping Dir people from developing lashkar against Taliban.
 
That **** reporter has no clue that these are our own Pakistani boys and goes off on his own interrogation about the haircut and the SMGs. I am just happy that these folks fought it out and busted the necks and skulls of 8 of these cowards and did not let these bastards chop their heads off. Its an immense loss for our nation to lose men like these 4.

excuse me, but isnt it plain to see that it was against the terms of the peace treaty to go in talib territory before informing them? Doesnt it show that it was the Army who violated the peace treaty? Why should a recce be needed if there is no intention of a planned offensive?
 
excuse me, but isnt it plain to see that it was against the terms of the peace treaty to go in talib territory before informing them? Doesnt it show that it was the Army who violated the peace treaty? Why should a recce be needed if there is no intention of a planned offensive?
They were not shooting at talibans so how did they break peace treaty?Of course they can roam around their OWN Country.Its not like Swat would no longer be accessable to Army after peace deal or better yet why dont we give independence to Swat if you think couple of army guys going into Swat without engaging the talibs are breaking peace treaty?
 
Of course they can roam around their OWN Country.Its not like Swat would no longer be accessable to Army after peace deal or better yet why dont we give independence to Swat if you think couple of army guys going into Swat without engaging the talibs are breaking peace treaty?

Well it seems the treaty stipulated that the army had to inform before any movement. Its not me thinking it out of thin air. The 4 soldiers did not contradict the reporter's claim about this clause of the treaty. As for this this being a free country, please appreciate that this was war, and both sides were equal partners of the deal. Would the talibs have been allowed to roam freely in cantonments or GHQ without proper procedure?
 
Well it seems the treaty stipulated that the army had to inform before any movement. Its not me thinking it out of thin air. The 4 soldiers did not contradict the reporter's claim about this clause of the treaty. As for this this being a free country, please appreciate that this was war, and both sides were equal partners of the deal. Would the talibs have been allowed to roam freely in cantonments or GHQ without proper procedure?

yeah Taliban are free to go to the Hell! these bastards are traitors of Islam... Pak Goverment must give some award to everyone who killed a taliban!:sniper:
 
excuse me, but isnt it plain to see that it was against the terms of the peace treaty to go in talib territory before informing them? Doesnt it show that it was the Army who violated the peace treaty? Why should a recce be needed if there is no intention of a planned offensive?

All I want to know is what justification does Islam provide to murder captives? So if they were in a no-go area why would you not just hold them as captives? What Islam are these people espousing when they can't respect those who have been captured? They slaughtered these men in cold blood.

Allah kay waastay, Islam kay naam per yeh dhulm naa karo..
 
All I want to know is what justification does Islam provide to murder captives? So if they were in a no-go area why would you not just hold them as captives? What Islam are these people espousing when they can't respect those who have been captured? They slaughtered these men in cold blood.

Allah kay waastay, Islam kay naam per yeh dhulm naa karo..

Errm, yarmouk is banned, is his ban temporary? If not why are you asking him questions when he cannot respond?

I'm sure if given the opportunity he would be able to respond to your doubt in full.
 
How brave of you sergeant, to respond to a banned member, its a shame your bravery wasn't ready at hand when yarmouk was active.

First thing: Personal attacks are against forum rules.
Second thing: My mistake i don't paid attention that he was banned! anyway there is nothing wrong in my comment!
 
All I want to know is what justification does Islam provide to murder captives?

Allah kay waastay, Islam kay naam per yeh dhulm naa karo..


Great question noble sadiq.

The General law on Prisoners of War In Islam according to traditional and historical Islamic Sharia have been prisoners of war ought to be treated humanely. However, their are 3-5 main options the Muslim at the helm of affairs and responsibility (specifically the one who possess the pow's) can exercise.

First option is to release the prisoners of war.

Second option demand ransom for the prisoners of war.

Third option exchange your prisoners of war to get back your Muslim soldiers who have become prisoners of wars.

Fourth option help convert the pow's in your possession to Islam and let them be free.

Now the fifth option does exist and that is to execute the prisoners of war.

After the Battle of Badr, 17 Ramadan 2 AH/ 624 C.E, I remember learning the Muslims had killed and captured Pagan soldiers from the Quarayish tribe. Let's not forget the significance of the Battle of Badr it was one of the historical battles the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) battled in. From what I understand more than 50 men were captured (each army had a few hundred men), the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) had ordered several of the prisoners of war to be executed for their previous crimes against the Muslims in the Holy Land of Mecca.


I hope my knowledge has contributed to yours.
 
Errm, yarmouk is banned, is his ban temporary? If not why are you asking him questions when he cannot respond?

I'm sure if given the opportunity he would be able to respond to your doubt in full.

The question is rhetorical. Anyone can answer it.

I am not questioning the individual or disrespecting him for his inability to respond to become an issue. The question is for any or all on this thread.
 
Great question noble sadiq.

The General law on Prisoners of War In Islam according to traditional and historical Islamic Sharia have been prisoners of war ought to be treated humanely. However, their are 3-5 main options the Muslim at the helm of affairs and responsibility (specifically the one who possess the pow's) can exercise.

First option is to release the prisoners of war.

Second option demand ransom for the prisoners of war.

Third option exchange your prisoners of war to get back your Muslim soldiers who have become prisoners of wars.

Fourth option help convert the pow's in your possession to Islam and let them be free.

Now the fifth option does exist and that is to execute the prisoners of war.

After the Battle of Badr, 17 Ramadan 2 AH/ 624 C.E, I remember learning the Muslims had killed and captured Pagan soldiers from the Quarayish tribe. Let's not forget the significance of the Battle of Badr it was one of the historical battles the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) battled in. From what I understand more than 50 men were captured (each army had a few hundred men), the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) had ordered several of the prisoners of war to be executed for their previous crimes against the Muslims in the Holy Land of Mecca.


I hope my knowledge has contributed to yours.
My friend shukria,

However in my opinion, all of the above applies to non-Muslim captives.

The issue on hand would be akin to Syeda Aisha's (RA) camp capturing troops under the command of Syedna Ali (RA) and then slaughtering them. The point being the officers and the two NCOs were all Muslims. They had surrendered. They should have been given the protection and refuge as has been witnessed in the history of Islam and Muslims. You draw blood in the battle. Not when the other side has been captured.

The mentality on the Takfiri TTP side is that only their way is Jihad and anyone on the other side is a wrongdoer and thus guilty to be put to death. In this lies the fallacy of their understanding.

The TTP people had not proclaimed that in case of people being captured in their area, they would be be-headed. This was an un-Islamic, impulsive (yet predictable) step by them.

Only the Almighty knows it all, however there were many other ways to handle the case of these officers and men.
 

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