Srilanka will neither buy JF-17 Nor LCA

[AbRaj]

Lost cause Aircraft LCA Tejas is just that, a lost cause, a thing of the past which took too long to mature.
Even Indian Air force are not interested in them. India may try bullying Srilanka, Bangladesh and other submissive neighbours to buy it, but that's not gona work.

Same for jf blunders, what's your point?

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

About Sri Lanka having issues with the graft---.

A major weapons purchase should not be stopped just because of graft only. If the air force has done due diligence in picking the aircraft---then that aircraft is the need of the nation.

It takes years to test and decide on what you want---. Example Paf---stopped the purchase of Mirage 2000 in t he late 80's early 90's due to graft----since then---paf has fallen on its face and has not been able to recover that deficiency to date.

The paf and pakistan would have been stronger if the graft of 150 million was paid----.

You can always charge and prosecute the person involved later.

What the sri lankans have missed over here is that with that deal---they would have had a carte-blanche with china---one deal leading to another---and that would give sri lanka more control and would make china eager to participate further.

Many a times---the GRAFT is for Black Operations---you need the money to do certain things---yet you cannot disclose those things---the money has to come from somewhere---so just because a news reporter dug deeper into things and found irregularity---does not mean that is what is happening.

 

[I M Sikander]

Paf is pushing too much to export thunder.
Instead of getting export order, paf should first complete home order as the fleet is depleting fast.
In coming 4 years more jets will be grounded that calls for increase in production beyond 25 per annum and bringing the earlier thunders to block II standard.

 

[MastanKhan]

At the quoted price point, Sri Lanka will probably buy Yak-130s

Hi,

There is another problem----where the paf has fckd up---.

In order to get the F16's the paf has intentionally down played the capabilities of the JF17 to what they are.

When the JF17 came out first---the basic evaluations were that the BLK 1 was around 80% of the capabilities of the F16 BLK 15.

So---with a more powerful upgraded engine with a higher thrust to wt ratio---the JF17 is equal to or better than the F16 BLK 15---that is a simple fact. So---power is not the issue here at this time---.

Coming to the electronics---the difference is between 9 or 9.5:1.

The SD10 B is as capable as the aim 120's that the paf has.

So---basically what we saw happening was an intentional downgrade of the JF17---so that the F16's could be had.

@Quwa---you need to write an article about that---and put my name alongwith yours.

 

[AbRaj]

Hi,

About Sri Lanka having issues with the graft---.

A major weapons purchase should not be stopped just because of graft only. If the air force has done due diligence in picking the aircraft---then that aircraft is the need of the nation.

It takes years to test and decide on what you want---. Example Paf---stopped the purchase of Mirage 2000 in t he late 80's early 90's due to graft----since then---paf has fallen on its face and has not been able to recover that deficiency to date.

The paf and pakistan would have been stronger if the graft of 150 million was paid----.

You can always charge and prosecute the person involved later.

What the sri lankans have missed over here is that with that deal---they would have had a carte-blanche with china---one deal leading to another---and that would give sri lanka more control and would make china eager to participate further.

Many a times---the GRAFT is for Black Operations---you need the money to do certain things---yet you cannot disclose those things---the money has to come from somewhere---so just because a news reporter dug deeper into things and found irregularity---does not mean that is what is happening.

But in reality it will be the opposite
The more the Sri Lanka borrow money from China the more it will be trapped in debt burden a solid example is your own country.
Check the pattern of IMF loans given to Pakistan which obviously Pakistan used for weapons purchase from their ally America

 

[Abba_Dabba_Jabba]

Jf17 deployment as Maritime aircraft with Anti ship missiles is a major PLUS for Jf17 in case of Sri Lankan deal.

All they need to do is act smart and don't be idiot.

LCA is no where close, not at least by 2019.
It's still expensive and less proven compared times Jf17.

Russians new aircrafts (as per article) are too expensive for them.

Sorry but when and which anti-ship missile JF-17 has fired ? I have just heard that JF will be used as maritime surveillance.

Plus what about the training of the pilots, I mean 2-seater jets ?

And where is LCA less proven compared to JF-17, apart from some pro-chinese media articles ?
Both jets have performed well in foreign air shows, both can now fire BVRs, both can drop bombs,etc
Only advantage JF has is number of units manufactured and inducted (without any FOC), that actually shows PAF's desperation of maintaining numbers in their inventory.
LCA too has some advantages compared to JF-17 : 1.composites 2. No crash yet.

On topic : Nice decision by Sri lanka, both the platform are not battle proven they should go for some second hand F-16 or Mig-29 for their AF.

 

[Quwa]

Hi,

There is another problem----where the paf has fckd up---.

In order to get the F16's the paf has intentionally down played the capabilities of the JF17 to what they are.

When the JF17 came out first---the basic evaluations were that the BLK 1 was around 80% of the capabilities of the F16 BLK 15.

So---with a more powerful upgraded engine with a higher thrust to wt ratio---the JF17 is equal to or better than the F16 BLK 15---that is a simple fact. So---power is not the issue here at this time---.

Coming to the electronics---the difference is between 9 or 9.5:1.

The SD10 B is as capable as the aim 120's that the paf has.

So---basically what we saw happening was an intentional downgrade of the JF17---so that the F16's could be had.

@Quwa---you need to write an article about that---and put my name alongwith yours.

You can do a guest post. I'll edit it for writing style, grammar, etc, but it'll be under your name 100%

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Oh poor Sri Lanka stuck between two giants of South Asia...But if the hefty commission is their concern...they should directly deal with Pakistan instead going through a middle man. Whether JF17 has been battle proven or not yet, any senior PDF member (@MastanKhan @Windjammer ) can shed some light on it.

Used in WOT operations,multiple international exercises & international airshows.. Clocking over 19000 hours.

 

[risingsinga]

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From Sirilankan point of view isnt it better if they dont buy Jf-17 and LCA .because if they do buy one of these then other will get mad specially if they select thunder ,

It just reminds me of one quotation pertinent to this situation "I don't know the key to success but the key failure is to please all"
Sri Lanka should decide based on its needs and the suitability of the aircraft but it is not so easy though.