Spring between Turkey and Israel. Happy new Year

[Adıvar]

Who exactly betrayed you?

Generally, i dont refer to Wiki, but..:
Arab Revolt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is for Turkish readers:
ÇAĞLAR BOYU ARAP İHANETLERİ… | TARİH TÜRKLERDE BAŞLAR...

They accept it too:

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Generally, i dont refer to Wiki, but..:
Arab Revolt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is for Turkish readers:
ÇAĞLAR BOYU ARAP İHANETLERİ… | TARİH TÜRKLERDE BAŞLAR...

They accept it too:

Yes, Arab revolt was mainly in Hezaj and Hasmite tribes - more Arabs fought against the revolt than the Arabs that fought against the Ottomans. Arabs of Nejd died by the thousands defending the Ottomans against the Hejazi traitors.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Bro. Your Great Mogul Empire was also divided by the British. We must learn from the past. Never to hate but be realist.
We know whom we can trust. 20 years are an eye wink in nations history, but long for us impatient people.

 

[Adıvar]

Yes, Arab revolt was mainly in Hezaj and Hasmite tribes - more Arabs fought against the revolt than the Arabs that fought against the Ottomans. Arabs of Nejd died by the thousands defending the Ottomans against the Hejazi traitors.

There is no need to argue about a historical fact. We were fighting against the western colonial powers, and what Arabs did was to cut bodies of Turkish soldiers dead with the hope of finding Ottoman golds in stomach..

The recent behaviour of Iraq that requested to pull back Turkish soldiers is a very good example to how Arabs maintain stance against Turks while many western states have soldiers without any problem in Iraq.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

There is no need to argue about a historical fact. We were fighting against the western colonial powers, and what Arabs did was to cut bodies of Turkish soldiers dead with the hope of finding Ottoman golds in stomach..

The recent behaviour of Iraq that requested to pull back Turkish soldiers is a very good example to how Arabs maintain stance against Turks while many western states have soldiers without any problem in Iraq.

There is a difference between SOME Arabs and Arabs - Arabs bled fighting for the Ottoman Empire, never forget that.

 

[BordoEnes]

Relationships will improve on a diplomatic level no doubt. The players in the region are using their cards against Turkey, and so it will be forced to reconcile with Israel sooner or later. The Israeli's have already expressed their willingness to work together with Turkey if i'm not mistaken.

@500 @Archdemon @DavidSling

 

[Zibago]

Bro. Deep strategic alliances means deep relation cause we live in WW3 . China threatene today occupying Taiwan. Should we have only enemies on the chess board. Look pls. what Iran is doing, acting with Russia, China and USA;
deepest whores.
Sorry for my word "in the boat".

There is dont ask dont tell kind of relation but its not that much just some behind the curtain deals for defence equipment

It's chess board. Shia Iran is master of chess. India, China and Russia are not very friendly to Pakistan.
Iran tries to use the wind of nowadays time. Lets keep united against the Shia alliance. Otherwise Islam will loose and we will be defeated. Iran is trying to kill Sunna and Ummah in favour of his perverted aims. Look their culture insulting our prophet Mohammed CC in favour of Hazret Ali

We are ammending our ties with Russia
Pakistan-Russia Relationship Improving
But our relation with China is excelent they are our biggest trade partners and our strategic alies
China is Pak’s largest trading partner ,NA informed | Pakistan Press International
China confirms it is building six nuclear power plants in Pakistan
5China to build four submarines in Karachi - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[bsruzm]

Biraz akilli ol.
Rus kallesi etrafini sarmis.Kardes Azerbeycan ve Pakistan adamlardan korkunc teknoloji ve silah aliyorlar.
Bölgendeki Rusya haric tek "RESMI" nükleer güc ile ebedi düsman mi olmak istiyorsun ?

Cok ayip ettin. Reel Politika ile duygusallik cok farklidir. Cumhuriyetin en zor döneminden geciyoruz. Bunu unutma.
Tayyip bey bile bunu gördüyse senin hakaret etmeye hakkin yok, özür dilemen lazim.

İki silah için bu kadar çiçeğe böceğe gerek yok. Ağır ol, yeter.
Whatever is in Turkish interests but I wouldn't fall for news at the moment.
Let's wait how talks will result.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

There is dont ask dont tell kind of relation

İki silah için bu kadar çiçeğe böceğe gerek yok

The region is the core for global energy supply and security.
Pakistan can't and will not keep only watching to the developments. Strong and good ties to SA, Turkey and Azerbaijan will improve Pakistan's strong shadow influence in the region and also Pakistan's economy will benefit from it.
It is not surprising that nowadays after an "ICE-AGE" relations between Egypt, Israel and Turkey get a new dynamic and all parties seek dialogue and partnership.
All nations there know, that energy security and energy export can't be assured if the countries are working against each other.
Turkey was always productive in the peace process between Israel and Palestine. Iran was always contra productive and provoking.
Russia has no chance there surviving only in a micro Nusayri state. The Arab world, Turkey and Western block have their own plans. Without wiping IS and stable governments in Syria and Iraq, where the whole population is participating and respected will be no peace and stability in the region.
Russia will leave the region for sure if the neighbor states are in full cooperation and Palestine will be integrated into the process.

"dont ask dont tell kind of relations:"

- Military relations between Azerbaijan and Israel :

Azerbaijan ordered modern High-tech weapons from Israel worth 1,6 Billion USD

- Political and military ties between Azerbaijan and Pakistan :

Mir Jan Muhammad Khan Jamali:

“Pakistan is ready to give support to Azerbaijan in the military sphere. [...] Pakistan is a nuclear state. We are producing our weapons, tanks, modernizing our warships. We want to say to our Azerbaijani brothers that together with Turkey we are ready to support Azerbaijan. We are one of the three states that do not recognize Armenia as a state. [...] Pakistan was the second country that recognized Azerbaijan’s independence. At the same time it is one of the 3 countries that don’t recognize Armenia officially.” (News.az)

- Known strong cooperation between Israel and SA vs. Iran supported sectarian Proxies of Iran in Yemen

- Strong financial and military ties between SA and Pakistan

 

[Kamil_baku]

The region is the core for global energy supply and security.
Pakistan can't and will not keep only watching to the developments. Strong and good ties to SA, Turkey and Azerbaijan will improve Pakistan's strong shadow influence in the region and also Pakistan's economy will benefit from it.
It is not surprising that nowadays after an "ICE-AGE" relations between Egypt, Israel and Turkey get a new dynamic and all parties seek dialogue and partnership.
All nations there know, that energy security and energy export can't be assured if the countries are working against each other.
Turkey was always productive in the peace process between Israel and Palestine. Iran was always contra productive and provoking.
Russia has no chance there surviving only in a micro Nusayri state. The Arab world, Turkey and Western block have their own plans. Without wiping IS and stable governments in Syria and Iraq, where the whole population is participating and respected will be no peace and stability in the region.
Russia will leave the region for sure if the neighbor states are in full cooperation and Palestine will be integrated into the process.

"dont ask dont tell kind of relations:"

- Military relations between Azerbaijan and Israel :

Azerbaijan ordered modern High-tech weapons from Israel worth 1,6 Billion USD

- Political and military ties between Azerbaijan and Pakistan :

Mir Jan Muhammad Khan Jamali:

“Pakistan is ready to give support to Azerbaijan in the military sphere. [...] Pakistan is a nuclear state. We are producing our weapons, tanks, modernizing our warships. We want to say to our Azerbaijani brothers that together with Turkey we are ready to support Azerbaijan. We are one of the three states that do not recognize Armenia as a state. [...] Pakistan was the second country that recognized Azerbaijan’s independence. At the same time it is one of the 3 countries that don’t recognize Armenia officially.” (News.az)

- Known strong cooperation between Israel and SA vs. Iran supported sectarian Proxies of Iran in Yemen

- Strong financial and military ties between SA and Pakistan

Israel is the main purchaser of Azerbaijani oil. basically, Azerbaijan should corporate with them not to lose the market... But, Azerbaijan refused to let them bomb Iran through Azerbaijan. We know that, Iran is our neighbor and will be here in the future too.. Thats the reason that Iran recently made good relations with Azerbaijan. They got convinced that we dont want to be a puppet..

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

bomb Iran through Azerbaijan

That's good decision and realistic politics.
For my opinion Azerbaijan is much more western and secular in comparison to Iran.
Iran acted hostile and supported Armenia vs. Azerbaijan. I never understand what's their aim is?
Becoming a world power ? An illusion which will never happen.
Better would be to develop trustworthy relations with all neighbors for regional and internal prosperity and wealth.

 

[Kamil_baku]

That's good decision and realistic politics.
For my opinion Azerbaijan is much more western and secular in comparison to Iran.
Iran acted hostile and supported Armenia vs. Azerbaijan. I never understand what's their aim is?
Becoming a world power ? An illusion which will never happen.
Better would be to develop trustworthy relations with all neighbors for regional and internal prosperity and wealth.

Exactly bro... Even Russia who support Armenia against Turkey and Azerbaijan, sold 4 billion $ army technology, which in response got huge dissatisfaction in Armenia... Any change in government in Armenia, will be against RUssia..
However, Iran claiming that we are the same culture, nation and so on... Help armenia economically and with army technology... This is what happens when countries are rules by emotions instead of long term politics..

 

[NL_Turk]

As expected: Türkiye – İsrail yakınlaşmasının ardından gaz çıktı – Sözcü Gazetesi

Sorry no English source, but the article talks about possibly 20bcm per year starting in 2020.

 

[xenon54 out]

God said there will be a major war in the region that will kill 2/3 of its inhabitants. We asked God who are these that will die? He said all the stupid people. Can't wait for God to erase the sick minded stupid people on this earth.

Referring to whats happening in Syria and Iraq?

 

[cabatli_53]

Israel and Turkey have reached a preliminary agreement to normalise relations, including the return of ambassadors to both countries, an Israeli official said on Thursday.

The deal was reached during a recent meeting in Switzerland between the incoming head of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency, Yossi Cohen, Israeli envoy Joseph Ciechanover and Turkish foreign ministry under-secretary Feridun Sinirlioglu, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

A spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declined comment. A Turkish official confirmed that talks had taken place but denied any agreement had been reached, adding that efforts to normalise relations were continuing.

Under the preliminary agreement, Israel will establish a compensation fund to address the killing by Israeli marines of 10 Turks aboard a pro-Palestinian activist ship that tried to break Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip in 2010, the Israeli official said. Turkey would then drop all claims against Israel.

The once-strong Israel-Turkey alliance has soured dramatically under Turkish leader Tayyip Erdogan, who heads the Islamist-rooted AK Party, reaching a low with the raid on the Gaza-bound ship.

Efforts to reconcile the countries, including in a 2013 phone call between Erdogan and Netanyahu that was brokered by U.S. President Barack Obama, have yet to yield a final deal restoring full diplomatic ties.

The channel between Israel and Turkey, which borders Iraq, Iran and Syria, was long seen as a key element in U.S. policy in the region. With the rise of Islamic State and the complexities of relations with Iran, it retains importance for Washington.

With recent tensions between Turkey and Russia, Israeli officials say that Ankara has expressed new interest in importing natural gas from Israel.

According to the agreement reached in Switzerland, the official said, the countries will discuss the possibility of constructing a pipeline to supply Turkey with gas.

The official also said it was agreed that Saleh Aruori, a senior leader in the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas who has been living in Turkey, would not be allowed to operate from there and would not be allowed into Turkey. He did not say where Aruori was currently located.





(Reporting by Ari Rabinovitch in Jerusalem and Tulay Karadeniz in Ankara; Editing by Tom Heneghan)

Israel and Turkey reach preliminary deal to restore ties - Israeli official| Reuters