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Special Report: China's military hawks take the offensive

In regards to the americans taking silly positions in favour of the unrepentant and unscrupulous japanese,a vast majority of Chinese will be anti usa! I dont blame Admiral Zhang!

His “low opinion of the US military capabilities” is taken out of the context of Zhang's mindset and obviously the writer of the article is too childish to have passed a judgement on Zhang when he is not familiar with him (through all of Zhang's public comments).


Maybe, for now lets blame the author of this article ,

he would be an arm chair / TV admiral or stand-up comedian , if he indeed said to Chinese audience that US will run like rabbits during war .

I will give an example of our line of thought in two statements said by JFK during the height of cold war

Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate

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Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty


So next time you hear one of these general/ admiral talk and make you giggle on these topic, remember its all talk..

Cheers
 
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What did Admiral Zhang say about Desert Storm?

Admiral Zhang has been a long time and respected commentator on military affairs in China. None of what you and the other people quoted have reflected his viewpoint on the US military status in general.
Heck, you boys talk smack about wars and combat and you do not even bother to try to understand your own military.

But here is what the Indians said...

NUCLEAR WEAPONS GRADE FISSILE MATERIALS:
"Don't fight the Americans without nuclear weapons."

- Indian Chief of Staff in response to a question about what was the lesson of the Persian Gulf War
What the Indian military chief essentially said is that unless you are willing to take the national suicidal path, do not fight the Americans. Period. He was not advising the Taliban or the Iraqi insurgency. He was advising countries with formalized armies and with international interests that may conflict with others, especially the US.

The conventional army will exist at the whims of the American military leadership. Period. The word 'exist' here means functionality, as in able to take orders from the national leadership. We have demonstrated that we can sever that link -- inevitably, leaving the army floundering, wondering what to do and where to go. So if China is NOT willing to settle for inevitable defeat on the conventional battlefield, then do not get into a shooting fight with US. China is not Iraq, but then the US military of today is both is and not is the one that led Desert Storm. We have ten times the institutional memory about warfare over the PLA spanning just the past 20 yrs. China have none. You think the PLA could have handled Falluja any better? The nuclear alternative is no better. We have the numbers and the reach across the oceans. We will be hurt, but China will be -- gone.
 
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always trust them to hold their ground and not put up with boolsheet....

if only our spineless chicken shyts in Islamabad learned from them
 
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We have the numbers and the reach across the oceans. We will be hurt, but China will be -- gone.

Congratulations you are still alive!

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could you defeat them in '62



Let;s think about. Did India attack China? No. Does India act like a bully? No. Sure, India could have defeated CHina in '62. India did not use its airforce and the CHinese quickly went to a ceasefire as soon as the US-Russian Tension subsidized. It is a lot easier to defeat a country when you sneak attack, don;t you think?
 
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Let;s think about. Did India attack China? No. Does India act like a bully? No. Sure, India could have defeated CHina in '62. India did not use its airforce and the CHinese quickly went to a ceasefire as soon as the US-Russian Tension subsidized. It is a lot easier to defeat a country when you sneak attack, don;t you think?

Let;s think about. Did China attack india? No. Does China act like a bully? No.
Sure, China has defeated india in '62.

Even if india had used its airforce, China can still defeat india. Its pilots were weak and ill-trained and airplanes ill-maintained.

US-Russia would not in anycase get involved. nehru begged usa to intervene in vain. india lost the war - no matter in which angle you look at it - the attackers get defeated, soundly!
 
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Let;s think about. Did China attack india? No. Does China act like a bully? No.
Sure, China has defeated india in '62.

Even if india had used its airforce, China can still defeat india. Its pilots were weak and ill-trained and airplanes ill-maintained.

US-Russia would not in anycase get involved. nehru begged usa to intervene in vain. india lost the war - no matter in which angle you look at it - the attackers get defeated, soundly!




A lot of could haves dont become facts. China retreated and called for a ceasefire before the theater of war expanded and became full fledged. If you think sneak attacking and killing more soldiers is winning, then you have a lot to learn. Inevitablely, any sneak attack will cause more intial damage and casualities. Take Pearl Harbor for example.


I think the US would have gotten a lot more involved. That;s why China backed away and called a ceasefire. That;s why the planning and date of attack is so. Everything is timing. As for Airforce pilots and who is better. We will never know now. We can all wishfully believe either is better.
 
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Look at these Americans and other Westerners terrified of Admiral Zhang and China's massive nuclear arsenal. We saw how they ran like rabbits in 1950. We saw how they ran away when China annexed Scarborough Shoal and patrol Diaoyu Island. They can talk big but in reality they have not fought a peer adversary since 1950 or even WW2. They know as soon as war starts China will nuke NY, DC, LA, Chicago, Boston, Houston...
 
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US military wont do jack if it means getting into an all out war with China. They still remember the Korean War. The Americans will send its carriers and cry in the UN, but they will NEVER get involved in actual military combat with the PLA. They will support Japan, Vietnam and Philippines with money, weapons and political support but the Americans will never ever go to war with China.

For all the US chest thumping, they have never ever defeated either China or Russia in war. They were losing to Japan in WW2 until the nuke was dropped which covered up the humiliating defeats the Japanese inflicted on the US military.
Who exactly have America ever beaten in war? Just rag tag poorly equipped, poorly trained and poorly coordinated militaries. Hardly anything to write home about.

US got kicked out of North Korea when the PLA entered the Korean War. That is what you call victory. Doing that to a military like the US was one of the greatest military victories ever. Everyone thought the PLA had no chance but even with massive casualties we managed to kick the Americans out of North Korea.
That's epic!

The US has never defeated a powerful military recently and certainly not a military with the firepower of Russia and China. Iraq and Afghanistan have no capability to hurt the American mainland thus the US has no fear of going to war with them. In any war, we can cause massive damage to the US. The US knows this, they have to pretend to not be scared and lose face as a global superpower, so they are trying to act tough before any war breaks out. Because once the war starts, the US will get it from the PLA just as much as they will dish it out to us.

Our capability to do massive damage to the US are increasing rapidly, thus the cost of going to war with the PLA is increasing on a daily basis. Once the cost of war is so MASSIVE, there is no chance the US will intervene on behalf of other countries to fight China in our own backyard.
If the US doesn't intervene, then it's credibility as a superpower is gone forever. To prevent such an embarrassment they are doing their 'pivot' to Asia to threaten China that they will interfere to scare China. The Chinese leaders and PLA knows the Americans are bluffing big time.

The great thing for China is time is on our side, the longer we wait for the war, the stronger we will be and the smaller the gap between China and the US. Our economy is growing which gives us the money, our technology is catching up rapidly and closing the gap with the US, our industries are becoming more advanced and sophisticated, our domestic consumer market is expanding thus reducing our reliance on the western consumer, our domestic production of natural resources are increasing and the PLA is rapidly increasing its overall modernisation and firepower thus closing the gap with the US military.

Once the gap between the two militaries are only a few years, then it's game over for the US. The military option is off the table for the US forever. The US will have to face a near peer military power in our own backyard.

I say wait 10-15 years and China will be so f***ing powerful economically, financially, militarily, politically and technologically, we will achieve pretty much anything without even firing a shot.

TIME IS ON OUR SIDE!
 
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I say wait 10-15 years and China will be so f***ing powerful economically, financially, militarily, politically and technologically, we will achieve pretty much anything without even firing a shot.

TIME IS ON OUR SIDE!


Yup .. typical CCP brain-washed propaganda .. whatever makes you happy!!

so you aware you no match to US .. no point repeating the same thing again and again,

lets talk in 10-15 yrs when you become almighty powerful .. until then be third best
 
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I say wait 10-15 years and China will be so f***ing powerful economically, financially, militarily, politically and technologically, we will achieve pretty much anything without even firing a shot.
2016-2018 is the ideal time period. By then we will have a huge fleet of J-20 and J-21 for air superiority, a huge fleet of LHD / LPD for amphibious assault on islands and a huge fleet of Type 095 SSGN to mine and blockade the enemy's ports.

We need to take back Taiwan by force first. Peaceful unification is a hopeless cause. Once Taiwan is under control, we naturally control Diaoyu Islands because it is so close by. Once Taiwan, East China Sea and South China Sea are under control, then we take back South Tibet.
 
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2016-2018 is the ideal time period. By then we will have a huge fleet of J-20 and J-21 for air superiority, a huge fleet of LHD / LPD for amphibious assault on islands and a huge fleet of Type 095 SSGN to mine and blockade the enemy's ports.

We need to take back Taiwan by force first. Peaceful unification is a hopeless cause. Once Taiwan is under control, we naturally control Diaoyu Islands because it is so close by. Once Taiwan, East China Sea and South China Sea are under control, then we take back South Tibet.

I don't agree with your priorities. In the exam it's always the best strategy to answer the easier questions first because that ensures efficient use of time. Taking back South Tibet will be the easiest among the objectives you mentioned and taking back Taiwan will be the most formidable task if not impossible within the next 2-5 years.
 
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Yes I agree that taking over South Tibet will be the easiest because its an enemy we have already defeated in the past. Vietnam and Philippines are much tougher than spanking India. India is an easy beat.

Yup .. typical CCP brain-washed propaganda .. whatever makes you happy!!

so you aware you no match to US .. no point repeating the same thing again and again,

lets talk in 10-15 yrs when you become almighty powerful .. until then be third best

Dream on son.
 
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I don't agree with your priorities. In the exam it's always the best strategy to answer the easier questions first because that ensures efficient use of time. Taking back South Tibet will be the easiest among the objectives you mentioned and taking back Taiwan will be the most formidable task if not impossible within the next 2-5 years.
South Tibet must be returned before India really achieves building a ballistic missile capable of ~2000 km range and miniturized warheads. Right now India only has Agni 1 in service. Everything else is boasting and bluff. Truth is East China Sea and South China Sea are far more important than South Tibet. Once Taiwan is in the pocket, the first island chain is totally breached and the USN must retreat to Guam and second island chain. Japan is exposed and vulnerable.
 
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