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South Korean parliamentary speaker urges Vietnam to show N. Korea Economic reform

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Many times I've told some viet members, if N Korea reforms, they will beat you down like a dead dog. Don't ever feel superior to them.

To be honest, they might even beat China in some fields as well, Look at S. Korea.:D
Vietnam will be no match for N.korea if it reforms to be honest. N.korea can launch satelites into space, build nukes, mini submarines, long range missiles under the most severe sanctions any country has ever endured on planet earth. That in itself shows this country indeed has lots of potential. NO COUNTRY IN SOUTH EAST ASIA has been able to do all i mentioned above that North Korea achieved even today, Shame N. korean leaders are so paranoid and have made their country suffer as a result by relying on ideology for their policies in the 21st century:tsk:.
 
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I have a lot of respect towards Korean people. But many people in outside world know Vietnam through South Vietnamese. They are quite different from North Vietnamese in many ways, in living philosophy and ways of thinking, as well as priorities of life. Sometimes I find that I have more common in thinking with Taiwanese or Korean than with my Southern peers.

The fact is that North Vietnamese are mostly Sinitic people, while Southern Vietnamese are more Malayo-Polinesian and Khmeric people who were influenced by Indic cultures.

While dominating South Vietnam's economy for long time, ethnic Chinese never dominate North Vietnam economy. And their standard of living, education quality and entreprenership now in South Vietnamese city of former Saigon are certainly below that of later come North Vietnamese there (just compare district 6 and district Tan Binh where there are many North Vietnamese). As I was told, ethnic Hoa girls generally never marry a South Vietnamese man, but they are more than happy to marry a North Vietnamese, that is a fact that I had experience myself when I was young.

Therefore, I am not sure if North Korea open their country, they can beat us or not. It depends on a lot of factors.
 
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Not gonna happen. N. Korea is a republic in name only, but family property of the Kim dynasty in reality.
 
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Sorry, from my point of view, North Korea is far more developed than any South East Asian country, bar Singapore. So we are not in the position to judge them.

I lived in South Korea before and have been to the border area. I do not trust the Western media for their meaningless data. From any picture or video clip about North Korea, I'd see clean and well organized cities, well-developed railways system, highly developed military industry, healthy and strong people. The houses in countryside may be poor but are well-planned. North Korean sports are way ahead of any of South East Asian country. Their students performs even better than Vietnam or Singapore in PISA test or international math Olympiad.

Could you show me one city in South East Asia which is more well-planned, clean and highly developed than Pyongyang, bar Singapore. North Korean architects were even hired by Ceausescu, the former leader of Romania, to do urban planning for Bucharest, after he visited four Asian communist countries: Mongolia, China, North Vietnam and North Korea in 1971.

What else do you want for your country?. "Democracy"? to be like the Phillipines or India?
bro, I am afraid you are clueless and brainwashed. have you ever been to north korea? any plan to visit the country? I f yes, here is a book recommendation for you. the girl friend of the author is a Vietnamese, who accompanied him during the visit to north korea.

Kim und Struppi: Ferien in Nordkorea: Amazon.de: Christian Eisert: Bücher
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Many times I've told some viet members, if N Korea reforms, they will beat you down like a dead dog. Don't ever feel superior to them.
no, I don't feel angry, nor upset if they surpass Vietnam. why should I? I wish them all the best.
common Koreans look down on chinese anyway. they accuse you stealing their cultures and custom. as Chinese, you should be upset and angry.
 
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I have a lot of respect towards Korean people. But many people in outside world know Vietnam through South Vietnamese. They are quite different from North Vietnamese in many ways, in living philosophy and ways of thinking, as well as priorities of life. Sometimes I find that I have more common in thinking with Taiwanese or Korean than with my Southern peers.

The fact is that North Vietnamese are mostly Sinitic people, while Southern Vietnamese are more Malayo-Polinesian and Khmeric people who were influenced by Indic cultures.

While dominating South Vietnam's economy for long time, ethnic Chinese never dominate North Vietnam economy. And their standard of living, education quality and entreprenership now in South Vietnamese city of former Saigon are certainly below that of later come North Vietnamese there (just compare district 6 and district Tan Binh where there are many North Vietnamese). As I was told, ethnic Hoa girls generally never marry a South Vietnamese man, but they are more than happy to marry a North Vietnamese, that is a fact that I had experience myself when I was young.

Therefore, I am not sure if North Korea open their country, they can beat us or not. It depends on a lot of factors.

Taiwanese and South Koreans are nothing like you. You may have a lot of respect for South Koreans but a lot of them have no respect for you. Even if you are a northern Vietnamese, you are still just a low caste South East Asians to them. Don't insult your own countrymen because of your inferiority complex.
 
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no, I don't feel angry, nor upset if they surpass Vietnam. why should I? I wish them all the best.
common Koreans look down on chinese anyway. they accuse you stealing their cultures and custom. as Chinese, you should be upset and angry.

I'm not angry because Koreans are famous for bunch of thieves and punk ***, why would I waste my time on them? But the North Koreans are a time bomb for us, according to my understand.

I have a lot of respect towards Korean people. But many people in outside world know Vietnam through South Vietnamese. They are quite different from North Vietnamese in many ways, in living philosophy and ways of thinking, as well as priorities of life. Sometimes I find that I have more common in thinking with Taiwanese or Korean than with my Southern peers.

The fact is that North Vietnamese are mostly Sinitic people, while Southern Vietnamese are more Malayo-Polinesian and Khmeric people who were influenced by Indic cultures.

While dominating South Vietnam's economy for long time, ethnic Chinese never dominate North Vietnam economy. And their standard of living, education quality and entreprenership now in South Vietnamese city of former Saigon are certainly below that of later come North Vietnamese there (just compare district 6 and district Tan Binh where there are many North Vietnamese). As I was told, ethnic Hoa girls generally never marry a South Vietnamese man, but they are more than happy to marry a North Vietnamese, that is a fact that I had experience myself when I was young.

Therefore, I am not sure if North Korea open their country, they can beat us or not. It depends on a lot of factors.

How big is the difference between north and south vietnam?
 
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Taiwanese and South Koreans are nothing like you. You may have a lot of respect for South Koreans but a lot of them have no respect for you. Even if you are a northern Vietnamese, you are still just a low caste South East Asians to them. Don't insult your own countrymen because of your inferiority complex.

You mean I look up to South Koreans or Taiwanese. You are wrong. They may be richer and more developed than us, for now, that's all, not forever. I hold my point that we are equal in IQ range, so Vietnamese can reach their level of development, given time/opportunities.

One nuclear bomb or devastating and continuous wars like Vietnam experienced in last 400 years, and you'd have to start everything again. In the meantime, other countries will surpass you. I do not want it happens to any country, but it is a fact in this dangerous world.

In 2013 or 2014, some universities in Ho Chi Minh city even considered to treat ethnic Hoa as other minorities, i.e. adding some points to their entrance test scores, because their level of education are poor compared to average South Vietnamese. And not to compared with North Vietnamese.

And I've never said we have more in common with Korean than South Vietnamese. But it can happen sometimes.
 
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You mean I look up to South Koreans or Taiwanese. You are wrong. They may be richer and more developed than us, for now, that's all, not forever. I hold my point that we are equal in IQ range, so Vietnamese can reach their level of development, given time/opportunities.

One nuclear bomb or devastating and continuous wars like Vietnam experienced in last 400 years, and you'd have to start everything again. In the meantime, other countries will surpass you. I do not want it happens to any country, but it is a fact in this dangerous world.

In 2013 or 2014, some universities in Ho Chi Minh city even considered to treat ethnic Hoa as other minorities, i.e. adding some points to their entrance test scores, because their level of education are poor compared to average South Vietnamese. And not to compared with North Vietnamese.

And I've never said we have more in common with Korean than South Vietnamese. But it can happens sometimes.

OK if that's not what you were saying then I was wrong. But as far as I know, there are hardly any Malayo-polynesian group in south Viet Nam. And last time I check, Saigon is still more prosperous than Hanoi. The average Northern Vietnamese are also more shorter and more malnourished than the southerners because of their lower socioeconomic level.
 
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To Yorozuya-san,

One more point. In Hanoi, Westerners are generally treated with contempt and less respected than towards Japanese or Korean. They behave very well and humbly in Hanoi, they dare not do things they do in other South East Asian countries, in Japan, in Korea or in Saigon.

In the meantime, Japanese and Korean are arrogant. Japanese even dare to ask us to change the name of Nhat Tan bridge to Vietnam-Japan Friendship Bridge. They think who they are? We declined, even that bridge is built by Japanese money.

In 1960s, Soviet Union asked us to stop fighting with the US in South Vietnam, otherwise they would stop aid. We replied that we would continue our war without them and arrested many pro-Soviet high-rank cadres.

Understand my point?

OK if that's not what you were saying then I was wrong. But as far as I know, there are hardly any Malayo-polynesian group in south Viet Nam. And last time I check, Saigon is still more prosperous than Hanoi. The average Northern Vietnamese are also more shorter and more malnourished than the southerners because of their lower socioeconomic level.

Top five provinces which contribute the most to country budget are Ho Chi Minh, Hanoi, Hai Phong, Quang Ninh and Ba ria-Vung Tau. No. 2,3,4 are North. Basically No. 5 (Ba Ria-Vung Tau) is the city of North Vietnamese immigrants. And Ho Chi Minh city are fed with investment from the North, to do what we do not want to do in Hanoi, like garment and textile.

40-45% Vietnam's GDP are generated by Hanoi-based companies, but they operate in many provinces.

Top five banks (or top ten, I am not sure) are based in Hanoi. Top five telecom providers are based in Hanoi. Most big real estate developers, like Vincom, Bitexco, Muong Thanh are from the North. Famous technology companies, like FPT, Tosy, BKAV, Viettel, etc. all are based in Hanoi. The flagship airliner, Vietnam Airlines/Jetstar Pacific is based in Hanoi. Vietjet Air, the only private airliner, is founded and owned by a Hanoi-based group.

Among top 5 tallest buildings in Vietnam, 4 are in Hanoi, and the numbers of high-rise buildings in Hanoi maybe 3-4 times that of HCM. And Hanoi have the highest per capita car ownership in Vietnam.

About North Vietnamese are malnourished and smaller than South Vietnamese, I think you never meet a Vietnamese in real life.

Please check before posting what you do not really understand.
 
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To Yorozuya-san,

One more point. In Hanoi, Westerners are generally treated with contempt and less respected than towards Japanese or Korean. Westerners behave very well and humbly in Hanoi, they dare not do things they do in other South East Asian countries, in Japan, in Korea or in Saigon.

I am not a Japanese bro. My personal opinion is that even westerners would respect Vietnamese more than the Koreans/Japanese respect the Vietnamese. I think Vietnamese can get more respect from the Chinese than from the Japanese/Koreans. But I still see a lot of Vietnamese youth looking up to the Koreans/Japanese.

In the meantime, Japanese and Korean are arrogant. Japanese even dare to ask us to change the name of Nhat Tan bridge to Vietnam-Japan Friendship Bridge. They think who they are? We declined, even that bridge is built by Japanese money.

Yea thats what I mean, most Koreans/Japanese look down on the Vietnamese. Many Vietnamese don't know that when the current SK president Park Geun-hye was only a minister and some Korean journalist wrote about the Korean atrocity during the war, she tried to stop them. When the old president issued an informal apology to VN, she opposed him.

In 1960s, Soviet Union asked us to stop fighting with the US in South Vietnam, otherwise they would stop aid. We replied that we would continue our war without them and arrested many pro-Soviet high-rank cadres.

Understand my point?

I've never heard of this. It is good to hear.
 
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Actually is a wrong conception about Japanese looking up against westerner, in contrary the general population looking them with amusing and curiosity behavior. Even before Perry trying to opened Japan in 19 century, most Japanese regarding the westerner as barbarian and thus called them Nanban (southern barbarian). This behavior is not much differ even after Meiji restoration, they still looking at westerner with distrust in one hand but they need the westerner technology to build up their technology and economy. Even after defeat in WW II, the Japanese still regarding the westerner as a rival for their economic revival though they had not blame them (the Allies) again about the Japanese defeat in the last war, but the concept of Westerner as a long time rival for Japanese is still exist and pervasive among Japanese population and even some extremist like Ukiyoe Dantai still regarding the Westerner as a long time threat for Great Japanese movement.
 
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I am not a Japanese bro. My personal opinion is that even westerners would respect Vietnamese more than the Koreans/Japanese respect the Vietnamese. I think Vietnamese can get more respect from the Chinese than from the Japanese/Koreans. But I still see a lot of Vietnamese youth looking up to the Koreans/Japanese.



Yea thats what I mean, most Koreans/Japanese look down on the Vietnamese. Many Vietnamese don't know that when the current SK president Park Geun-hye was only a minister and some Korean journalist wrote about the Korean atrocity during the war, she tried to stop them. When the old president issued an informal apology to VN, she opposed him.



I've never heard of this. It is good to hear.

That is a sad fact. But when we are still poor, it is understandable and unavoidable. We have to adapt. Even ethnic Japanese and Chinese were treated with contempt in Brazil, when their origin countries were poor.
 
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To be honest, they might even beat China in some fields as well, Look at S. Korea.:D
Vietnam will be no match for N.korea if it reforms to be honest. N.korea can launch satelites into space, build nukes, mini submarines, long range missiles under the most severe sanctions any country has ever endured on planet earth. That in itself shows this country indeed has lots of potential. NO COUNTRY IN SOUTH EAST ASIA has been able to do all i mentioned above that North Korea achieved even today, Shame N. korean leaders are so paranoid and have made their country suffer as a result by relying on ideology for their policies in the 21st century:tsk:.

Well, I think it is because of Russia technology. To be honest here, Indonesia can be said one of the earliest Asian country who learn about rocket and nuclear technology, we started both program during Soekarno leadership. But under Soeharto leadership, we try to focus on economy, being low profile and forget about making some sophisticated weapon that can give bad impression to the West. Many people believe we can become another nuclear power country if Soekarno was still continuing his leadership.

Rocket

Kartika I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kartika I is an Indonesian sounding rocket built by LAPAN, AURI, Bandung Institute of Technology, and Pindad under PRIMA (Sounding and Military Rocket Development Project/Indonesian: Proyek Pengembangan Roket Ilmiah dan Militer Awal) project. This rocket was launched on August 14, 1964 in LAPAN Rocket Launching StationPameungpeuk, West Java, becoming the first sounding rocket ever launched in Indonesia, and the second in Asia after Japan through Kappa Rocket.

History
On May 31, 1962, Indonesian government under Sukarno commenced aeronautics exploration when the Aeronautics Committee was established by the Indonesian Vice Prime Minister I, Juanda, who was also the head of Indonesian Aeronautics. The secretary of Indonesian Aeronautics, RJ Salatun, was also involved in the establishment.

On September 22, 1962, the PRIMA project was formed as an affiliation of AURI (Indonesian Air Force) and ITB (Bandung Institute of Technology). The outcome of the project was the launching of "Kartika"("star") series rockets and it's telemetric ordnances on August 14, 1964 in LAPAN Launching Station Pameungpeuk, West Java.[1]

PRIMA project as one of the subproject of Outer Space Ionosphere Rocket Project (Proyek Roket Ionosfer Angkasa Luar) that is known as "Project S" was led by Laksda (Rear Admiral) Udara Budiardjo and Kolonel (Colonel) Udara RJ Salatun.

Kartika.jpg


Nuclear Power in Indonesia

Indonesia has a number of nuclear-related facilities in operation. BATAN operates three research reactors: in Serpong, Banten on the western outskirts of Jakarta (30 MW), Bandung, west Java (2 MW), and in Yogyakarta, central Java (100 kW).

The Serpong multipurpose reactor, which started up in 1987, is intended to support the introduction of nuclear power to the country. It is in the Litbangyasa Serpong Nuclear Zone, located in the Research Centre for Science and Technology (PUSPIPTEK), Serpong. The main facility here is the 30 MW Multipurpose Reactor GA. Siwabessy (RSG-GAS), but also there are the Centre for Reactor Technology and Nuclear Safety (PTRKN), Centre for Development of Nuclear Informatics (PPIN), Nuclear Device Engineering Centre (NEDC), Radioisotope Radiofarmaka Centre (PRR), Materials Technology Centre for Nuclear Fuel (PTBGN), Radioactive Waste Technology Centre (PTLR), Nuclear Industrial Materials Technology Centre (PTBIN), Centre for Standardization and Nuclear Quality Assurance (PSJMN), and the Centre for Nuclear Technology Partnership (PKTN).

A Government-owned company, PT Batan Teknologi, produces medical and industrial isotopes (including Mo-99) for domestic needs using the facilities in Serpong.

At Yogyakarta, as well as the 100 kW Kartini research reactor there is the Teknologi Accelerator and Process Materials Centre (PTAPB) and the College of Nuclear Technology (STTN). At Bandung the country’s first research reactor was built in 1965, a small Triga mkII which was subsequently boosted to 2 MW, and the site also hosts the Nuclear Materials Technology and Radiometric Centre (PTNBR) where nuclear medicine in the country was established. Friday Market in Jakarta is a larger nuclear establishment, with Isotopes and Radiation Technology Applications Centre (PATIR), Technology Centre for Radiation Safety and Metrology (PTKMR), Nuclear Geology Development Centre (PPGN), Centre for Education and Training, and the Centre for Nuclear Science and Technology Dissemination (PDIN).

The country also has front-end capabilities in ore processing, conversion and fuel fabrication, all at a laboratory scale, though PT Batan Teknologi assembles fuel elements for the research reactors using imported US fuel. There have been no experiments in reprocessing, but BATAN operates a radwaste program including for spent fuel from the research reactors.
 
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Well, I think it is because of Russia technology. To be honest here, Indonesia can be said one of the earliest Asian country who learn about rocket technology and nuclear technology during Soekarno leadership. But under Soeharto leadership, we try to focus on economy, being low profile and forget about making some sophisticated weapon that can give bad impression to the West. Many people believe we can become another nuclear power country if Soekarno was still continuing his leadership.

Rocket

Kartika I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kartika I is an Indonesian sounding rocket built by LAPAN, AURI, Bandung Institute of Technology, and Pindad under PRIMA (Sounding and Military Rocket Development Project/Indonesian: Proyek Pengembangan Roket Ilmiah dan Militer Awal) project. This rocket was launched on August 14, 1964 in LAPAN Rocket Launching StationPameungpeuk, West Java, becoming the first sounding rocket ever launched in Indonesia, and the second in Asia after Japan through Kappa Rocket.

History
On May 31, 1962, Indonesian government under Sukarno commenced aeronautics exploration when the Aeronautics Committee was established by the Indonesian Vice Prime Minister I, Juanda, who was also the head of Indonesian Aeronautics. The secretary of Indonesian Aeronautics, RJ Salatun, was also involved in the establishment.

On September 22, 1962, the PRIMA project was formed as an affiliation of AURI (Indonesian Air Force) and ITB (Bandung Institute of Technology). The outcome of the project was the launching of "Kartika"("star") series rockets and it's telemetric ordnances on August 14, 1964 in LAPAN Launching Station Pameungpeuk, West Java.[1]

PRIMA project as one of the subproject of Outer Space Ionosphere Rocket Project (Proyek Roket Ionosfer Angkasa Luar) that is known as "Project S" was led by Laksda (Rear Admiral) Udara Budiardjo and Kolonel (Colonel) Udara RJ Salatun.

Kartika.jpg


Nuclear power in Indonesia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The program for nuclear power in Indonesia includes plans to build nuclear reactors in the country for peaceful purposes. The national legislative organ for nuclear energy, Badan Pengawas Tenaga Nuklir (BAPETEN), was founded in 1998. The national agency for atomic energy is BATAN.[1] In 1954, research on atomic energy was begun in Indonesia. Apart from producing electricity, nuclear technology is also used for medical and agricultural purposes and for food safety. Plans for an atomic program were scaled back in 1997 due to the discovery of the Natuna gas field, but have been revived since 2005.[2] In December 2013 it was reported that Indonesia was planning to begin constructing a reactor in 2015.[3] In February 2014 the Indonesian Government confirmed that it was planning to construct a 30MW reactor in the near future.[4]

Yea it's not really impressive for NK to develop its nuke and rockets when they spend most of their resources on it. I think alot of country can develop rockets too if they spend all their time and resources on it but forgot to feed its people.
 
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North Korea looks to Vietnam for inspiration

There are signs that North Korea may be setting out on the path of economic reform. While its giant neighbor China is one obvious example to follow, experts say Vietnam is seen as a far better model by Pyongyang.

The New Year speech by North Korean leader Kim Jong Un was widely viewed as surprising, appearing to indicate that a radical change in policy was being embarked upon.

His wish, it seemed, was that North Korea should set out on an economic journey.

For Werner Pfennig from the Institute for Korean Studies in Berlin, the statement was not so unexpected. Since the young leader took power, a lot has happened in North Korea and the New Year speech should be taken seriously.

The German daily Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper recently published a report suggesting Kim's speech was about more than just empty platitudes.

Specifically, it cited German economic experts who had apparently given advice to the North Korean leadership about reforms. The country would begin to implement changes this year, the adviser told the newspaper. And, he said, Vietnam was to serve as a model for the modernization of the country.

"If North Korea really does have any kind of example, then it is Vietnam," Pfennig told DW, adding that Vietnam's influence was more important than China's for North Korea.

Kim's speech hinted that some reforms might take place

"Special economic zones along the lines of the Chinese model have, diplomatically speaking, had limited success in North Korea." In addition, there is great mistrust in North Korea about the brand of Communism practiced by its larger neighbor. "If a North Korean delegation travels to China, then they think that they are in the West," said Pfennig. Not so with Vietnam.

Central to all of this was the relationship between openness and control, according to Pfennig. "The belief in North Korea is that Vietnam follows an economic policy in its dealings with other countries in which Vietnam has complete control. That is what makes Vietnam so attractive."

There were also other considerations. In the 1970s, for example, Vietnam overcame the United States and succeeded in achieving national reunification between North and South. In addition, Vietnam insists "on its independence, even where China is concerned - and it had a charismatic leader." Even today, Ho Chi Minh - who died in 1969 - is still venerated in Vietnam.

Vietnam's rise

The socialist countries that were left behind after the breakup of the Eastern Bloc took various different directions. Vietnam opted for a comprehensive political and economic renewal. Instead of a centrally planned economy, a socialist economy similar to China's was conceived - one that gave the people greater leeway.

Vietnam's development was based on two major policies, Gerhard Will, Asia expert with the German Institute for International and Security Affairs, told DW. First of all, the government introduced initiatives to liberalize markets to a certain extent - first in agriculture, then in family businesses and finally in larger companies. Secondly, it opened up to world markets, which in turn attracted foreign investment.

"Vietnam's Communist leadership was much cleverer in spotting international opportunities and thought much more in economic terms than North Korea."

Vietnam is seen as a good example not least because the US military was driven out by Ho Chi Min

Vietnam subsequently achieved immense growth rates of up to ten percent and rose to become the second largest exporter of rice in the world in the 1990's.

In contrast, North Korea held firm on its Stalinist course after 1989 and became increasingly radicalized. It set out on a path of military armament and nuclear buildup - to pose a threat to the West. Pyongyang used its atomic weapons program to blackmail the international community. It even threatened the West with its own downfall, Will explained. "The collapse of the regime poses an even greater threat for neighboring countries than the nuclear weapons program."

If North Korea completely collapsed, China and South Korea fear they would have to accept a wave of starving refugees; there are currently 24 million people living in the isolated country.

Policy leads to famine

Its policy of isolation brought the North's economy to a virtual standstill in the 1990s. Even today, the country would not be able to produce enough food to feed its people without extra help from China and Russia - there is not enough fuel nor is there enough agricultural machinery to do the job.

The North Korean regime was responsible for catastrophic famines which caused the deaths of between 600,000 and one million people between 1994 and 1999.

Neither Will nor Pfennig are convinced North Korea would be successful in implementing either the Chinese or the Vietnamese models. The basic conditions for reforms were simply "much less adequate than in China or Vietnam," according to Will.

North Korea set out on a path of increasing militarism after the collapse of the Eastern Bloc

"It lacks the agricultural base from which the first impetus for reform came in China and Vietnam," Pfennig mentioned.

Held back by isolation

Another difference is the extreme isolation of the country. As Will pointed out, Pyongyang simply lacked the necessary allies. Furthermore, North Korea, as opposed to China and Vietnam, did not have a large population of expats upon which it could draw. "The Chinese and Vietnamese who were living abroad were the ones who forged the links with the world market in the first stages of reform."

Currently, from Pfennig's point of view, a solution from within the Koreas could be more promising than any other model - for example special economic zone Kaesong, in the southwestern part of North Korea. Up to 50,000 North Koreans work there under South Korean management. So far, it has proved to be quite a success.
North Korea looks to Vietnam for inspiration | Asia | DW.DE | 11.01.2013
 
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