South China Sea Forum

[cnleio]

Light in SCS night

 

[ahojunk]

Ha, ha, before anyone else get overly excited, .....

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Military drills in SE China not aimed at specific targets: defense ministry
2016-05-18 15:57 | Xinhua | Editor: Gu Liping

Military drills China has been staging in its southeast recently are not aimed at any specific target, the Ministry of National Defense said on Wednesday, in response to media reports of a ramping-up of such training exercises.

"The drills are routine arrangements according to the annual training plan," according to a statement from the ministry's information bureau. "They are designed to test and improve troops' capabilities of dealing with security threats and accomplishing military missions."

It said the drills should not be "over-interpreted."

 

[BoQ77]

Two Chinese fighter jets flew within 50 feet of Navy recon plane over South China Sea, Pentagon says

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Wednesday, May 18, 2016, 8:06 PM

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon says two Chinese fighter jets flew within about 50 feet of a U.S. Navy reconnaissance plane Tuesday in international airspace over the South China Sea.

The Pentagon characterized the incident as an unsafe intercept and said it is being reviewed.

A U.S. military official says the two Chinese J-11 fighters flew out to intercept the U.S. EP-3 Aries aircraft and came so close that they forced the pilot to descend a couple hundred feet in order to avoid a collision. The U.S. surveillance plane was conducting routine operations in the region.

The official says the incident took place in the northern part of the sea, south of Hong Kong. The official was not authorized to discuss details of the incident publicly, so spoke on condition of anonymity.

 

[Soryu]

China island vs Vietnam island

View attachment 304176

So you call this is: Island vs "Island" ???

Yeah, you're just reach a new level of bullshjt cnleio, mere rock vs Island to correct.

 

[cirr]

Types 818 and 718, a new wave of shipbuilding for CCG is coming

Watch out!

 

[cirr]

12000-ton CCG 2901 docked in Sanya，Hainan Island

Surprise it is CCG 2901， not its sistership 3901.

 

[Jason Zhao]

I have to say, crazy all of you.......what you are talking about..............

 

[ahojunk]

Japan's South China Sea Maneuvering at G7 Summit A 'Clumsy Show'
2016-05-27 12:15:17 China Daily Web Editor: Guo Jing

Japan's continuous meddling in the South China Sea is a "clumsy show" that goes against not only the interests of the G7, but also the peace and security of the South China Sea region, a Foreign Ministry official said on Wednesday.

Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying made the remarks in a news conference after reports that Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is expected to bring up the South China Sea issue when meeting with United States President Barack Obama in Japan on Wednesday.

It's also reported that the G7 summit declaration will include the "three principles of rule of law" on solving maritime territorial disputes, which Abe brought up in 2014.

Hua described moves by Japan as "petty shrewdness" by taking advantage of its status as the host of the G7, while the summit should focus on global economic governance and cooperation.

Hua reiterated that China's activities in the South China Sea are totally justified and lawful, and the country has the right to, and must, guard its legitimate interests.

"For some time, Japan has kept hyping the South China Sea issue, sparing no effort to stir up trouble everywhere… It's just another clumsy show by Japan. I believe everybody has a clear-headed understanding of it," Hua said.

 

[hirobo2]

Japan's South China Sea Maneuvering at G7 Summit A 'Clumsy Show'
2016-05-27 12:15:17 China Daily Web Editor: Guo Jing

Japan's continuous meddling in the South China Sea is a "clumsy show" that goes against not only the interests of the G7, but also the peace and security of the South China Sea region, a Foreign Ministry official said on Wednesday.

Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying made the remarks in a news conference after reports that Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is expected to bring up the South China Sea issue when meeting with United States President Barack Obama in Japan on Wednesday.

It's also reported that the G7 summit declaration will include the "three principles of rule of law" on solving maritime territorial disputes, which Abe brought up in 2014.

Hua described moves by Japan as "petty shrewdness" by taking advantage of its status as the host of the G7, while the summit should focus on global economic governance and cooperation.

Hua reiterated that China's activities in the South China Sea are totally justified and lawful, and the country has the right to, and must, guard its legitimate interests.

"For some time, Japan has kept hyping the South China Sea issue, sparing no effort to stir up trouble everywhere… It's just another clumsy show by Japan. I believe everybody has a clear-headed understanding of it," Hua said.

Lol, Japan, Japan... They're just being sourpusses for thinking China caused them to lose the Aussie sub deal to the French. The little brother trying to get back at the big brother... Just a big show of immaturity.

The only thing Japan is/was ever good at is tech. Even then this will be questionable in the near future as China leads advances in science.

The Japanese were never good at anything else, and that includes politics and strategic planning, which is why they lost most of the lands they "conquered" during their past expansionist regime, and their national birth rate is at an all time low...

 

[BoQ77]

China island vs Vietnam island

View attachment 304176

This post expressed the real thing.
1. There isnt any natural island there until last year. ONLY submerged reefs. Both look the same.

2. Vietnam doesnt make change to the reef they occupied, while China proceeded the submerged reef to fake island.

In brief,
Before, After
Vietnam : Reef with watch tower >> Unchanged
China : Reef with watch tower >> Massive land reclamation >> Fake island

Legal aspect, both is still reefs not any island

 

[cnleio]

This post expressed the real thing.
1. There isnt any natural island there until last year. ONLY submerged reefs. Both look the same.

2. Vietnam doesnt make change to the reef they occupied, while China proceeded the submerged reef to fake island.

In brief,
Before, After
Vietnam : Reef with watch tower >> Unchanged
China : Reef with watch tower >> Massive land reclamation >> Fake island

Legal aspect, both is still reefs not any island

Vietnam also made changes to the reef occupied by urself ... but not good at it (lack tools & skills). Just as we knew Vietnam isn't the China, in SCS not get the same effect. MAN vs MACHINE, different result in SCS !

Vietnam side building the island in SCS:

China side building the island in SCS:

 

[cnleio]

@BoQ77 ... one thing we should admit both doing the same thing in SCS, but it's the typical MAN vs MACHINE Game.

MAN: Vietnamese doing your best

MACHINE: Chinese doing our best

 

[BoQ77]

What I see, Vietnam make the breakwater, not "producing fake island" and ruin the reefs like China

 

[cnleio]

What I see, Vietnam make the breakwater, not "producing fake island" and ruin the reefs like China

Like i said, Vietnam already did (building island in SCS, not only the breakwater) ... anyways compared with China doing, it's less effect in there.

Vietnam is not the China, not as same as the effect. U just deny the truth.

 

[ahojunk]

China sets four bottom lines regarding the South China Sea disputes
By Yuan Can (People's Daily Online) 17:13, May 27, 2016

China's Ministries of Foreign Affairs and National Defense announced on Thursday four bottom lines on issues related to the South China Sea.

Bottom line 1: China will never accept the arbitration on the South China Sea no matter what kind of ruling the International Tribunal makes.

Although the International Tribunal may make an official ruling in the coming weeks, both China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministry of National Defense stressed on Thursday that China will neither accept nor recognize the adjudication.

The Foreign Affairs Ministry has said that the choice of the Philippines to unilaterally initiate arbitration was little more than political provocation. The Philippines does not actually aim to settle the dispute this way; instead, they are attempting to deny China's territorial sovereignty and maritime interests.

Bottom line 2: The U.S. should stop close-in reconnaissance.

In recent years, U.S. military ships and aircraft have frequently conducted reconnaissance in China's coastal areas. These operations seriously threaten China's air and maritime security.

According to China's Defense Ministry, a U.S. reconnaissance plane EP-3 flew close to the airspace of China’s Hainan Island on May 17. Two Chinese military aircraft conducted identification and verification in accordance with relevant regulations.

It is not difficult to tell who is actually challenging the region's stability. Yang Yujun, spokesperson of China's Ministry of National Defense, said, "We urge [interfering countries] to stop sowing seeds of discord so as to maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea, which is in the common interest of all parties."

Bottom line 3: The South China Sea disputes are not the business of G7 and its members.

Informed that Donald Tusk, president of the European Council, said on Thursday that G7 should make a clear statement on the South China Sea disputes, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying said that some countries are trying to take advantage of the summit. The South China Sea issue is none of the business of G7 and its members. Hua urged those participating in G7 to refocus and refrain from poking their noses into matters beyond their authority.

Bottom line 4: Any attempt to undermine China’s sovereign rights through intimidation or other means is doomed to fail.

At a press conference on May 25, Hua Chunying said that China is in the right when it comes to upholding territorial sovereignty and preserving its legitimate rights in the South China Sea. Many members of the international community support China's position on the disputes.

"It is ridiculous to accuse China of attempting to seek regional hegemony," said Tayeb Abdul Rahim, general secretary of the Palestinian Authority’s executive committee, in an interview recently.

Hua explained that many Western media reports have falsely stated that the countries who back China on the South China Sea issue are small, poor and inconsequential. This statement is blatantly arrogant, prejudiced and snobbish. Hua emphasized that it is preposterous to dismiss the legitimate stance of a country based on its size and wealth. The truth is, many different countries sympathize with and endorse China's position on the issue.