South China Sea Forum

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Top Republican senator welcomes US warship patrol of SCS
BY : PTI

UPDATED ON : Sunday, January 31, 2016 02:02 PM

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Washington :-
A top Republican senator has welcomed the move to send a US guided missile destroyer within 12 nautical miles of an island in the disputed South China Sea claimed by China, Taiwan and Vietnam “to challenge excessive maritime claims” that restrict freedom of navigation.

“I am encouraged to hear that the US Navy has conducted a freedom of navigation operation near Triton Island in the Paracel Islands in the South China Sea,” Senator John McCain, Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee said yesterday.

This operation challenged excessive maritime claims that restrict the rights and freedoms of the US and other nations under international law, he said.

“I continue to hope these operations will become so routine that China and other claimants will come to accept them as normal occurrences and releasing press statements to praise them will no longer be necessary,” McCain said.

The “freedom of navigation operation” was conducted yesterday near Triton Island in the South China Sea, rich in natural resources and a major shipping lane. Over half of the world’s commercial shipping passes through the Indo-Pacific waterways including one-third of the world’s liquefied natural gas.

The development comes three months after US warship USS Lassen sailed within 12 nautical miles of an artificial island Beijing is building in the Spratly Islands, triggering a major face-off.

Top Republican senator welcomes US warship patrol of SCS

 

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In addition to the ongoing expansion of its facilities at Woody Island, China has increase Duncan Island by 50 percent. There is a protected harbor and currently building a helicopter base on the island, with eight designated landing zones in place and four others likely to be completed soon.

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Map of the location of Duncan Island, in relation to Woody Island, etc.

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Zhongjiandao（Triton Island）is next。

 

[beijingwalker]

what kind of idiotic "proof" is this? what does this list got to do with the counties in the territory dispute? seriously just look how dumb your argument is, In the list India has a majority positive view on china, so are you really that dense to think Indian citizens would support china's territory claims ,just because they have positive view on china on a random survey ?

Hi, idiot.You didn't mention the contested nations in your previous And who cares what you Indians think. your are just a irrelevant minor player on the world stage. India is hated by almost all its neighbors , you still have the shame to talk about China. Care about your business and if you want a fight, we will surely bring the fight to your doorstep like we did before.

 

[true]

Does China need Indian citizen's support regarding something they have no business with? And do you honestly think the Chinese cares about what Indians think about the South China sea? Indian citizen's opinion will most likely fall on deaf ears.

no they don't. and i never siad they needed Indian support or permission , so what are you talking about? its the Chinese users here that are dragging India into this.
also India has a 40 billion worth of business through that international territory

Hi, idiot.You didn't mention the contested nations in your previous And who cares what you Indians think. your are just a irrelevant minor player on the world stage. India is hated by almost all its neighbors , you still have the shame to talk about China. Care about your business and if you want a fight, we will surely bring the fight to your doorstep like we did before.

this isn't Chinese media to sell retarded propaganda , to start off what part of " China's outrageous claims" from my post didn't you understand as disputed territory claims. your entire argument right now is built on bias selective reading.


secondly nearly every country neighboring china historically hates it , japan,Hong Kong, Bhutan, Afghanistan, India ,south Korea, Malaysia, Vietnam, Nepal ,twain , Philippines .etc hell nearly every country it neighbors has had heated disputes, including Russia. their relationship is sore at best.


thirdly if you think the 7th largest economy and 4th most powerful military in the world is irreverent then you are beyond delusional.

we will surely bring the fight to your doorstep like we did before

right and japan will conquer Manchuria like they did before

 

[beijingwalker]

Unlike India, which is hated by every neighbor, has just a few bordering countries, China has 14 land neighbors and most of them have very friendly relations with China and India is the only country out of 14 that has land disputes with China. all other land disputes China used to have with others were all settled peacefully on friendly terms. China is a huge country sitting across North Asian, East Asia, Central Asia, South Asia and South East Asia. Those who have island disputes countries are mostly South Eastern Asian countries which are not our immediate neighbors.

As for India, China can add an India to China's GDP every couple of years. For military prowess, it's hard to say, US is a clear leader and rankings for other countries are very murky, so don't boast here, Your Army hasn't been proved of any worth in major conflicts. And you GDP ranks the 9th, roughly one fifth of China's.

 

[Ewok6102]

no they don't. and i never siad they needed Indian support or permission , so what are you talking about?

Please read your post again.

You were the one talking about the support from Indian citizen. As if China and its people will care for Indian's support on its own dispute with neighbours.

also India has a 40 billion worth of business

Have a guess how much business China brings into and through that region. Hence the need for China (world's second largest economy) to secure its territory and national interests there.

through that international territory

Tell the Vietnamese those islands they claim and its surrounding waters belong to the "international" community. See what they will have to say about it.

 

[true]

Please read your post again.

You were the one talking about the support from Indian citizen. As if China and its people will care for Indian's support on its own dispute with neighbours.

no i wasn't , look at my post , i was saying how ridiculous the "proof" is because India has a majority positive view ,yet no one in india will support china's claims. the same concept applies to every other country in that list.

Have a guess how much business China brings into and through that region. Hence the need for China (world's second largest economy) to secure its territory and national interests there.

why does that matter, its not Indian business, in Geo politics is only motivated by self interests. that 40 billion reflects Indian bilateral trades .

Tell the Vietnamese those islands they claim and its surrounding waters belong to the "international" community. See what they will have to say about it.

no one is going to recognize individual claims from a globally reconfigured international territory.

Unlike India, which is hated by every neighbor, has just a few bordering countries, China has 14 land neighbors and most of them have very friendly relations with China and India is the only country out of 14 that has land disputes with China.

based on what , your propaganda? every day we read china oppressing its neighbors .if you call those relationships as "friendly" then Indian bilateral relationships are blood brothers.

Nepal , Bhutan , India share open borders, India is Afghanistan and Iran's closest allies. do you know what's common in all of them , they historically hate china. Apart from Pakistan and China ,India has friendly refashions with every other country out there including your precious north and south korea. you are talking about a country that supports both Palestine and Israel , while maintaining friendly with both.

all other land disputes China used to have with others were all settled peacefully on friendly terms. China is a huge country sitting across North Asian, East Asia, Central Asia, South Asia and South East Asia. Those who have island disputes countries are mostly South Eastern Asian countries which are not our immediate neighbors.

annexing neighboring countries , who were internationally recognized as sovereign states, for half a century in not my definition of "peaceful". its more related to

As for India, China can add an India to China's GDP every couple of years. For military prowess, it's hard to say, US is a clear leader and rankings for other countries are very murky, so don't boast here, Your Army hasn't been proved of any worth in major conflicts. And you GDP ranks the 9th, roughly one fifth of China's.

sure spread more propaganda -_-

to start off this "current" price image you are flinging here is outdated ,



with 2013 fall values. this is the current stats, India ranks 7th in GDP nominal and 3 in PPP

not saying chinese economy isn't larger, but like greece a significent chunk is fake ,as stated by every respected economist out there for a decade


Chinese Officials Admit They Faked Economic Figures - Fortune
China GDP: Economists think the numbers might be fake | Business News | News | The Independent

Your Army hasn't been proved of any worth in major conflicts. And you GDP ranks the 9th, roughly one fifth of China's.

more BS prpoganda as stated by above facts

 

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Vietnam requests China to end Hoang Sa sovereignty violations
VNA FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2016 - 18:10:28

Foreign Ministry’s Spokesperson Le Hai Binh (Photo: VNA)

Hanoi (VNA) – Vietnam demands China end its wrongful activities on Hoang Sa (Paracel) Archipelago, said Foreign Ministry’s Spokesperson Le Hai Binh on February 19.

He made the remarks in reply to reporters’ queries on China’s construction of a military helicopter base on Quang Hoa Island and its deployment of HQ-9 surface-to-air missiles on Phu Lam Island of Vietnam’s Hoang Sa Archipelago.

“ Vietnam is deeply concerned over China ’s aforementioned activities, which seriously violate Vietnam ’s sovereignty of the archipelago and threaten peace and stability in the region, as well as navigation and aviation security, safety and freedom in the East Sea ,” he said. “ Vietnam demands China immediately end these wrongdoings.”

The same day the Ministry of Foreign Affairs sent a diplomatic note to the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi to protest against China’s infringements on Vietnam’s sovereignty on Hoang Sa Archipelago.

Vietnam’s permanent mission to the UN also sent a diplomatic note to the UN Secretary-General proposing the official circulation of the Vietnamese foreign ministry’s diplomatic note.-VNA

 

[ahojunk]

Besides Xisha and Nansha Islands, there are others. One is the Dongsha (Pratas) Atoll.
The atoll is located between Hainan and Taiwan.

Some pictures of Dongsha (Pratas) Atoll.

Some pictures of the Island.

 

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Japan defence paper slams China's 'coercive' maritime demands

Japan on Tuesday slammed Beijing's bid to reclaim land in the South China Sea as a "coercive attempt" to force sweeping maritime claims, in a defence paper that comes as Tokyo is expanding the role of its own military.

• Posted 22 Jul 2015 03:25

TOKYO: Japan on Tuesday slammed Beijing's bid to reclaim land in the South China Sea as a "coercive attempt" to force sweeping maritime claims, in a defence paper that comes as Tokyo is expanding the role of its own military.

Tokyo said China was acting "unilaterally and without compromise", as it also highlighted concern about North Korea's nuclear programme and Russian moves in violence-wracked Ukraine.

The white paper accused Beijing of "raising concerns among the international community" as it ramped up criticism from last year's report, an annual summary of Japan's official view on defence matters.

"China, particularly over maritime issues, continues to act in an assertive manner, including coercive attempts at changing the status quo, and is poised to fulfil its unilateral demands without compromise," said the report entitled "Defence of Japan 2015".

China is locked in disputes with several countries over its claims to almost the entire South China Sea and is currently pursuing a rapid programme of artificial island construction in the region.

It is also embroiled in a separate row with Japan over the Tokyo-controlled Senkaku islands - which it calls the Diaoyus - in the East China Sea, as Chinese ships and aircraft regularly test Japanese forces in the area.

While the Sino-Japanese spat has cooled considerably over the last 12 months or so, observers have warned that it could spiral into a limited armed conflict.

Separately, Japan has complained that China may have started offshore drilling for gas in the disputed waters. "Japan has repeatedly lodged protests against China's unilateral development and demanded the termination of such works," the report said.

The document repeated Tokyo's concerns over China's growing assertiveness and widening naval reach in the Pacific and over what it calls the "opaqueness" of Beijing's sky-rocketing military budget. But it also noted that China has worked to set up an emergency hotline with Tokyo to prevent unintended conflicts at sea.

 

[Globenim]

In other news ISIS demands China to respect decission by international sharia courts ruling Jihadists butchering Chinese civilians as just and stop harrassing terrorists freedom of navigating their knifes into your necks or abdomen. China once said they respect muslims after all. So obviously they have to tolerate every arbitrary wim by lawbreaker and terrorists too.

 

[zheng2]

Well it's the International law that the World adhere and respect that will brand your 9 dash lies ILLEGAL and just pure nonsense.

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You should thank us for bringing the issue to the Permanent Court of Arbitration. The issue will now be settled once and for all.

his seas are the result for the WW2.and those seas were ordered belong to china in the agreement that america signed.And the most important is,there were no countries at that time circled the south china sea when the agreement was signed!
so **** that international law,who the heck want those seas before the oil was found.

 

[Zero_wing]

Wow looks like we have a classical case of ego with side of stupid and ignorance are you aware of china's falling economy? oh your top now the way your country being run its all going down in few decades and not to mention many foreign investors are leaving china plus the pollution and the lack of protection of copyright etc its just bad case with your country so please make your stupid comments call names soon you people will be clean our toilets for few cents well its expected from person who's people are well known to be ill mattered just typical barbaric people.

 

[ahojunk]

Some satellite pictures.

Chigua reef is on the bottom with Ccllins reef at the top.

On the left is Ximen, on the right is Dongmen (Gaven) Reef.

From left to right - Ximen reef, Dongmen reef and Anle reef.

Alicia Annie Reef (Xian'e) - taken by the ISS.

 

[cirr]

Long Live the Motherland！