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Not really.

No ASEAN country are joining US. Maybe Philippines

Australia already says no.

Japan is unlikely.
Why Japan Won’t Get Too Involved in the South China Sea | The Diplomat

US is on its own. Which makes it meaningless.


don't care for Australia since well they rely on China heavily to buy their Iron ore and Coal, but even China is cutting that off.
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Australian coal the loser as China looks for cheaper, greener options | afr.com
and Japan isn't part of ASEAN and is pacifist :sick:


like I said no one recognizes China claim. they won't do anything since they know who feeds them :butcher:
 
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China, US differ on freedom of navigation
Reporter: Han Bin 丨 CCTV.com

10-30-2015 06:20 BJT

The Chinese National Defence Ministry has once again expressed resolute opposition over the USS Lassen's patrol near the related islands and reefs of China's Nansha Islands in the South China Sea. The Military says it "has both the will and capability to tackle the issue, and will take measures needed." Such remarks are made by the National Defence spokesman at a regular press conference Thursday.

A true test in the China-US military ties. The USS Lassen's patrol off China's Nansha islands. The US says it's an exercise of freedom of navigation. China regards it a misuse of international law.

"China has always respected freedom of navigation and over-flight, according to the international law. But we are strongly against any kind of efforts, in the name of freedom of navigation, that may damage the interest of the literal states," Yang Yujun, spokesman Chinese Natinoal Defense Ministry, said.

US officials say that Washington takes the position on freedom of navigation, as it has direct interest in the region.

"We do not have a claim in the South China Sea. But what we want to see in the United States are the protocols of international that adhere to the international law globally," Gary Roughead, former US Chief of Naval Operations, said.

China has consistently protested against US regular surveillance operations within its Exclusive Economic Zones.

"China still would not endorse America's daily reconnaissance in China's EEZ, because we consider you are not coming here to offer us olive branch, you are breaking into my backyard, and try to take my pin number of my save in my house," Sr. Col Zhou Bo, director of Center For Int'l Security Cooperation, CMND, said.

The two sides have new agreements on issues like unexpected encounters at sea and notification on major military activities. But the technological agreements can't resolve the bigger strategic issue.

"We urge the US not to continue down the wrong path. But if the US side does continue, we'll take all necessary measures needed," Yang said.

It's long been clear that US China don't see eye to eye to each other on t freedom of navigation, particularly when it comes to military vessels.. The recent incident shows just how close to conflict those differences can be. Still, the US freedom of navigation operations will not change China's claims, nor stop China's efforts in strengthen its claims in the Stouth China Sea.
 
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US only gains face and get no profit at all by this kind of sailing. This will speed up the USA debt and accelerate the withdraw of the USA navy from the region. This is the dilemma of an over-expanded empire. Over-expansion destroys the balance sheet while the empire's dignity pushes for silly behaviors like this. USA is on the way to fall as British empires and Soviet Empires.

The sailing will only speed up the militarizing SCS by China. In one sense, USA is doing China a favor. Before the pivotal to Asia, China had nearly nothing on SCS; now SCS is slowly becoming Guam of China.
 
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if US does this regularly and has to stop it one day due to budget, this will be solid proof that China is exceptional. China has the home advantage in SCS while SCS is the over expanded area of US empire.As long as China sticks, US is losing the competition without solid support from Vietnam, Philippine and Japan. But Vietnam and Philippine are nearly nothing and Japan is falling hardly. Poor US
 
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An Empire like US is working hard for its followers' interest at its own cost. Something is deeply wrong here. This usually marks the turning point of an empire.

Be frank. Obama is dumber than Bush. Bush's Afganistan and Iraq policy is trying to see the expansion limit of US empire. Obama is doing aimless, just for empire's dignity. He pushes China, Russia and Europe to work together for the first time in the history. He also try to binds US interests to falling Japan. Most people can clearly see that Japan is sinking. As soon as Japan's neighbor finishes industrialization, Japan looses industrial advantage and It sinks even when all its neighbors are flying.
 
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They just don't get it, every time they do a thing it will be paid back by China. Japan tried to buy Diaoyu, Japanese economy dwindled fast. Abe had to agree to China's terms in order to improve economic ties again. What did China gain? East Sea ADIZ. VN started with land reclamation, we had the perfect excuse to show how it can be done more effectively. US tries to challenge our islands, now we speed it up and arm them. The more these foolish countries pushes China the harder the pay back will be.
 
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