South China Sea Forum

[CCP]

Please do not post anything unrelated to Japanese-Philippines Naval cooperation in this thread.

There are hundreds of Chinese-related threads in PDF, post there.

This thread does not concern the Chinese.

Can you count how many "China" in your first post?

 

[Keel]

Man you people are insecure

Agreed
You're right just this time even though you dont belong to them ethnically which should be unbiased this time
The Japanese and Pinoys are scared otherwise they would not have the drill
More scared more drills
The more the scarier

Ancient Chinese Art of Paper Folding

 

[Huan]

Please do not post anything unrelated to Japanese-Philippines Naval cooperation in this thread.

There are hundreds of Chinese-related threads in PDF, post there.

This thread does not concern the Chinese.

That is unrealistic Nihonjin, considering that the exercise is held in the South China Sea.

 

[Aepsilons]

That is unrealistic Nihonjin, considering that the exercise is held in the South China Sea.

Do you know the location where our joint task force operated?


By the northern tip of the Republic of the Philippines' most Western Most Island, the Island of Palawan.

If you can see the town of El Nido in Palawan Island, the joint task group conducted naval exercises starting there.


Note that it was not in the Panatag Island, or any of the islands that are in the Kalayaan Group , which is administered by the Philippine Armed Forces (and claimed by other countries).

 

[BoQ77]

PH must worry that even Palawan would be illegal occupied The enemy now build airstrip close to their Palawan.

According to ASEAN, the sea has the name Southeast Asia sea. Or simple. SEA.

According to China history book and map , they call it Jiao zhi sea. By current meaning it is "Vietnam sea"

 

[biendong]

There is west Philippine sea.

 

[Speeder 2]

sizes of 3 new islands compare to old islands

Zhubi island today (left 3)

the 2nd photo - holy crap! what China is building? a star war robot factory?

 

[Aepsilons]

PH must worry that even Palawan would be illegal occupied The enemy now build airstrip close to their Palawan.

According to ASEAN, the sea has the name Southeast Asia sea. Or simple. SEA.

According to China history book and map , they call it Jiao zhi sea. By current meaning it is "Vietnam sea"

They shouldn't have to worry about that. Palawan is home to the Philippine Armed Forces' Western Command. Specifically, if I recollect, they have a forward deployed Marine Base also in Pag-Asa Island which gives them operational awareness.

Palawan has a considerable deployed forces from the Philippine Army and Philippine Marine Corp. Not to mention that there are rotation of American troops there provided through the Visiting Status Agreement, which enables rotation of US military forces (marines, army) throughout the military bases in the Philippines; the ones in Palawan are included in this rotation.

Palawan is not a minor shoal, it is a major island , with population nearing 1 million , and being so close to the major islands in the Visayas, and Southern Luzon. An invasion by any agitator state would automatically result in an immediate response from the Armed Forces of the Philippines , The United States, and Japan.

 

[TheTruth]

There is west Philippine sea.

No such country called "the Philippines" existed until recently. We could call it the Moro and Cham Seas, with a North Ryukyu Sea above.

 

[Transhumanist]

They shouldn't have to worry about that. Palawan is home to the Philippine Armed Forces' Western Command. Specifically, if I recollect, they have a forward deployed Marine Base also in Pag-Asa Island which gives them operational awareness.

Palawan has a considerable deployed forces from the Philippine Army and Philippine Marine Corp. Not to mention that there are rotation of American troops there provided through the Visiting Status Agreement, which enables rotation of US military forces (marines, army) throughout the military bases in the Philippines; the ones in Palawan are included in this rotation.

Palawan is not a minor shoal, it is a major island , with population nearing 1 million , and being so close to the major islands in the Visayas, and Southern Luzon. An invasion by any agitator state would automatically result in an immediate response from the Armed Forces of the Philippines , The United States, and Japan.

There's talk of a new base too:

New naval base is Philippine military's top priority - armed forces chief

The Philippine military's top priority is to build a naval base on the country's western coastline, opposite the disputed Spratly islands, although the plans have been delayed by funding bottlenecks, the Philippine armed forces chief told Reuters.

General Gregorio Catapang said U.S., Japanese and Vietnamese naval vessels would be allowed to make port calls once the facility at Oyster Bay on the Philippine island of Palawan was finished.

Developing the island paradise into a military facility could exacerbate tensions with China, which claims sovereignty over almost the entire South China Sea, including the Spratlys. The Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan also claim parts of the vital waterway.

Palawan, part of the main Philippine island chain, is about 160 km (100 miles) from the Spratlys, where China's rapid land reclamation around seven reefs is causing alarm among some Asian countries and drawing increasing criticism from Washington.

"We feel this is the number one priority because of the emerging security situation," Catapang said in an interview late on Monday at a military base in the Palawan capital, Puerto Princesa City, after taking reporters to a Philippine-held island in the Spratlys.

"As soon as we have the money, we will pour resources there," he said.

China last month offered a detailed defence of its reclamation in the Spratlys, saying the new islands would provide civilian services such as weather forecasting and search and rescue facilities that would benefit other countries.

China rebuked the Philippines on Tuesday for taking journalists to one disputed island, dismissing its occupation as "futile and illegal" in the latest war of words between the two sides.

Catapang said 800 million pesos (11.46 million pounds) was needed for the initial development of the naval facility and then 5 billion pesos to turn it into a major operating base.

While plans had been drawn up, they were stalled by a lack of funds, he said.

"There is nothing there yet, we are still constructing an access road and upgrading the water and oil depots that would service ships. There's still much work to do," he said.

Japan, which is helping Manila boost its maritime capabilities, might fund infrastructure around the base but not the facility itself, a Japanese source with knowledge of the plan said earlier this year.

Washington has asked for access to Philippine military bases in eight locations to rotate troops, aircraft and ships for training as Washington shifts more of its forces to Asia, Catapang said last month.

Security ties between the Philippines and Vietnam are also growing in light of China's assertiveness.

The Philippine navy has said it planned to base two former U.S. Coast Guard cutters at Oyster Bay, a sheltered cove within the much larger Ulugan Bay, once the facility was finished.

From New naval base is Philippine military's top priority - armed forces chief| Reuters

No such country called "the Philippines" existed until recently. We could call it the Moro and Cham Seas, with a North Ryukyu Sea above.

And South Sudan wasn't a nation until a few years ago, what's your point? When a nation became one doesn't matter - else all of Europe would have a territorial claim to all the rest, the US would still be British, India too, life doesn't work that way. The Philippines exists just as much as South Sudan, The US, Norway, Russia or any other nation.

 

[TheTruth]

that will detract from the Philippines' civilian development

And South Sudan wasn't a nation until a few years ago, what's your point? The Philippines exists just as much as South Sudan, The US, Norway, Russia or any other nation.

So why should a Sea be named after colonial upstarts, over the rightful heirs to the environs? The Moro never accepted Philippines rule. Nor did the Cham or Khmer accept Vietnamese domination. These are the people who have a legitimate historical claim.

BTW instrumental to Philippine nationhood is their constitution which puts the Spratlys strictly outside of their territorial jurisdiction.

@Nihonjin1051 don't pretend your sources weren't written specifically with China in mind. As was said before, look how many times China was mentioned in these articles.

The fact of the matter is, China is keeping the islands she has. And since China has the only legitimate claim to territories inside the 9-dash line, she is not going to drop the dispute under US-Japan pressure. I wonder what Japan thinks she's accomplishing here?

 

[Aepsilons]

And South Sudan wasn't a nation until a few years ago, what's your point? The Philippines exists just as much as South Sudan, The US, Norway, Russia or any other nation.

The Philippines was of such strategic value that the United States Navy, Army, Marine Corp, Air Force --- launched the largest naval invasion in human history -- ever. Just to reclaim , 'liberate' the Philippine Archipelago from the Japanese Empire. All in All, the Japanese Imperial 14th Area Army stationed some 430,000 soldiers in the defense of the Philippines ---- the United States mobilized the entire 8th Army, 6th Army ---- all in all around 1,200,000 American soldiers operated in the Philippine Campaign.

The US 8th and 6th Army destroyed the entire 14th Area Army of the Imperial Japanese Army --- with only 12,000 surviving the war; the rest were killed in action.

The Americans suffered 64,000 casualties to take the Philippines from the Japanese Empire ---- that should be the measure of their resolve in taking the Philippines.The Philippines is , clearly, of vital strategic importance to the United States.

Japan, of all nations, knows this.

 

[JayMandan]

The thread is about Jmsdf and PN naval drill. What the hell is wrong with you Chinese pdf? Paranoid much?

 

[CCP]

The Philippines was of such strategic value that the United States Navy, Army, Marine Corp, Air Force --- launched the largest naval invasion in human history -- ever. Just to reclaim , 'liberate' the Philippine Archipelago from the Japanese Empire. All in All, the Japanese Imperial 14th Area Army stationed some 430,000 soldiers in the defense of the Philippines ---- the United States mobilized the entire 8th Army, 6th Army ---- all in all around 1,200,000 American soldiers operated in the Philippine Campaign.

The US 8th and 6th Army destroyed the entire 14th Area Army of the Imperial Japanese Army --- with only 12,000 surviving the war; the rest were killed in action.

The Americans suffered 64,000 casualties to take the Philippines from the Japanese Empire ---- that should be the measure of their resolve in taking the Philippines.The Philippines is , clearly, of vital strategic importance to the United States.

Japan, of all nations, knows this.

Right, so, US do nothing to help PH at Scarborough Shoal(2012).

 

[TheTruth]

The thread is about Jmsdf and PN naval drill. What the hell is wrong with you Chinese pdf? Paranoid much?

Do you really think we're afraid of a country that even the Taiwanese could neutralize in months? Get your head checked. We're afraid we'll be forced to kill people like you when that's the last thing on earth that we want.