South China Sea Forum

[Rechoice]

Even after China spanked Vietnam with oil platform 981 and grabbed Scarborough Shoal, Vietnam and Philippines are still isolated in ASEAN.

it is dream of China.

 

[Viet]

It's interesting he has no official Thai profile page, and instead depends on some ASEAN website. Furthermore, he relies on a yahoo email, not even a government email. In a university, even a visiting researcher would get their own profile page and email inbox. Finally, his bookshelf looks so cheap - even the bookshelves in China's most rural primary school would be better. It just goes to show that 'major general' is a low rank, and the Thai government cannot waste funds on nobodies like him. Struggling people like him are desperate for money - he probably accepted bribes to say whatever the journalists told him to say.

ok, the main website of the organisation National Defence Studies Institute is a mess.
National Defence Studies Institute

even the link to his department Strategic Studies Center is not working. but what can you expect from Thailand?
whatever, even if he is a clone or slave, I don´t care as long as he serves for VN interests.

 

[Raphael]

ok, the main website of the organisation National Defence Studies Institute is a mess.
National Defence Studies Institute

even the link to his department Strategic Studies Center is not working. but what can you expect from Thailand?
whatever, even if he is a clone or slave, I don´t care as long as he serves for VN interests.

Every time ASEAN confers about the SCS islands issue, Thailand/Cambodia/Myanmar can be relied on to block VN/PH agenda. So obviously, a mere major-general can't decide Thai policy, and cannot help you. Sounds like you need to kidnap the commander-in-chief and brainwash him for Vietnam's agenda - everybody else is useless. Good luck.

 

[pigtaker]

last time you lie about srilanka PM support your claim, then half an hour later they slaped your face by denying your propoganda. spupid viets want to try this trick again?

 

[DT1010]

last time you lie about srilanka PM support your claim, then half an hour later they slaped your face by denying your propoganda. spupid viets want to try this trick again?

soure??

 

[sweetgrape]

I heard that three argentinians support Vietnam, a teacher, two others I can't remember, and VCP also join Americia Communist conference, and America Communist Party also support vietnam, what's the next?

 

[areal]

I am afraid that Philippine cannot export enough Filipino maids to sponsor this great job.
I heard there has been a family plan proposed in Philippine, using a newly-developed drug, the birth rate of girls can be increased for foreign earning.

Air Force defies China protest, to push with airstrip upgrade
Written by Mario J. Mallari Thursday, 19 June 2014

The planned upgrade of an airstrip on Pagasa Island in the contested Spratlys will go ahead despite opposition from China, the Philippine Air Force (PAF) yesterday said.

Air Force chief Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Delgado, however, stressed the government is “careful” in proceeding with the repair and upgrade of the airstrip, which has been there since the 1970s, so as not to be misconstrued by other claimant-countries.

The dispute between Manila and Beijing is over competing claims to parts of the South China Sea.

China claims nearly all of the sea, including waters close to the coasts of the Philippines and other claimant countries.
The Philippines has lodged repeated protests in recent years over China’s growing military and civilian presence on islands and in waters within what it considers as its exclusive economic zone.

Most recently, the Philippines has accused China of creating artificial islands on tiny islets and reefs, possibly as a prelude to building military installations.

At a press briefing after the courtesy call of the officers of the Defense Press Corps (DPC) to the PAF leadership, Delgado said the 1.3-kilometer air strip really needs repairs after the project was met with some “hitches” during the previous years, including lack of funds.

“We are addressing that, there were only hitches during the previous years. There was a time due to lack of funds...(and now) there are funds... the bottom line, we need to repair that but on how, that is being addressed now,” he added.

China had earlier accused the Philippine government of “double standard” for calling for a moratorium on all land formation activities in the disputed West Philippine Sea or the South China Sea while a code of conduct is yet to be agreed upon.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hua Chunying reacted by picking on the air strip repair project on Pagasa Island, which China calls Zhongye Islands, accusing the Philippine government of building a world-class airport on the area.

“That is why we are also being careful on this because we have to clear it with the national government if we can pursue this... these are still plans,” said Delgado.

For his part, PAF Chief of Air Staff Maj. Gen. Edgar Fallorina said a winning bidder was already declared by the Department of National Defense (DND) for the first phase of the project, which is under the Philippine Navy.

“So far it’s a go,” he added.

Fallorina said the project was divided into two phases – the first phase is composed of providing an approach which includes dredging activities for the construction materials to be transported to the island under the Philippine Navy.

“The second part of the project is for the runway itself. So right now, we are content with the Navy project first and hopefully it will be finished this year,” he stressed.

Pagasa Island is part of the Kalayaan islands group (KIGs) or the Spratlys.

Hua also stressed China’s sovereignty over the Spratlys.

The government has allotted P480 million for the repair and upgrade of the 1.3-kilometer airstrip on Pagasa Island, the second largest island in the Spratlys.

The Air Force has also intensified its air patrols in the West Philippine Sea amid increased activities by China in the area.

“We have been there everyday...we are conducting almost every day patrol at the West Philippine Sea,” Delgado said.

He added around 12 to 10 foreign vessels are being sighted in the disputed areas during patrols.

“But it trickles down, at least three or four, so it depends on the level of activities that they are pursuing out there,” Delgado said.

He added the information obtained by air patrols is immediately forwarded to the DND and the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA).

“Right now, based on our role as far as territorial defense is concerned, is that we provide the needed information to higher headquarters as far as our patrols are concerned; we provide the things that we see from above as we conduct our air patrols to higher headquarters for their perusal, that’s our role for the moment, we provide the necessary air intelligence information,” he said.

At present, PAF reconnaissance flights are concentrating on Scarborough Shoal (Bajo de Masinloc) which lies 124 nautical miles off Zambales and Ayungin Shoal which is around 140 nautical miles from Palawan.

Delgado also reiterated the PAF’s commitment to defend the country’s airspace in the South China Sea despite its current shortage of equipment and growing assertiveness of China.

thieves frightened and stopped infighting as the true owner returns.

Bring it on. Since you started it. We will also do the same. As our economy grows. We will soon develop our 7 occupied islands and 3 reefs in Spratlys. We will build a fortress, a pier and pave the runway to all those islands. We don't need to make a fake or build an artificial islands because we have lots of real one to be developed. Anyway here is the good news.

Philippines, Vietnam can share disputed sea – envoy
Joint exploration, however, won't work with China. Vietnamese Ambassador to the Philippines Truong Trieu Duong says it will be like recognizing China's claim and falling into its trap.

MANILA, Philippines – To keep peace and stability in the South China Sea, the Philippines and Vietnam can share marine resources in the disputed waters, the Vietnamese ambassador told Rappler as tensions rise between Hanoi and Beijing.

Vietnamese Ambassador to the Philippines Truong Trieu Duong, however, said the same idea will not work with China.
“From my own point of view, I think that we can share and we can put aside differences, and we can jointly cooperate with each other to explore it,” Duong said weeks after China allegedly attacked Vietnamese vessels in the South China Sea and injured 6.

The 58-year-old ambassador explained that overlapping claims between the Philippines and Vietnam, after all, involve only “some small areas.” China, on the other hand, is claiming virtually the entire South China Sea – parts of which the Philippines claims as the West Philippine Sea, and as for Vietnam, the East Sea.

“The Philippines and Vietnam, we have some small areas. It's different. But for China, if we put differences aside and jointly cooperate with each other, like it or not, well, and in fact, it's just like recognizing China's claim – just like recognizing China's claim because China is claiming the whole sea,” Duong said.

“So we'll fall into the trap of China,” he said.

'That goodwill evaporated'

China has pushed for the joint exploration of the disputed waters – but always under the premise that it exercises indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea.

In 2005, Vietnam joined the Philippines and China in an agreement to jointly explore the disputed waters. The Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking expired in 2008 without the government extending it, however, in the face of public criticism. (READ: SC asked: Void expired PH-China offshore oil exploration pact)

In 2013, Vietnam and China again “agreed to establish a maritime work group for joint development at sea,” the Voice of America (VOA) reported. Duong Danh Dy, former Vietnamese consul general to Guangzhou, China, however dismissed this agreement as “just diplomatic rhetoric.”

“Vietnamese and Chinese interests over the South China Sea are like fire and water. Both countries claim sovereignty over the disputed islands in the area. The Chinese government has a long-term expansionist goal and it is willing to wait for an opportunity in 10, 20, 30, or even 100 years. It would not give up the South China Sea unless China is weakened,” the diplomat said, according to VOA.

The New York Times also noted Vietnam and China's announcement in 2013 “that they would try to find ways to jointly develop oil and gas fields.” “That goodwill evaporated,” however, because of the oil rig incident this year, the New York Times said.

Vietnam on Philippines: 'We can talk'

For now, then, one of Vietnam's best options is to boost ties with the Philippines as it did on Sunday, June 8, in a landmark act of sports diplomacy aimed to ease tensions in the South China Sea.

He said the two countries, for one, belong to the same regional bloc – the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

Both countries also signed the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea, a key regional declaration in 2002 that upholds “self-restraint” in activities that will worsen the sea disputes.

“The Philippines and Vietnam, we are kind of a peaceful people. And we do not want to overpower one another, so we can talk. We can talk,” he said.

In contrast, he said: “China does not want to talk. It resorts to...some kind of forceful measures, in defiance of international law.”

When asked if Vietnam is considering filing a case against the Philippines over the South China Sea, Duong said: “No. Never. That would be unthinkable – because between the Philippines and Vietnam, we are now having...very good relations.... And it's not worth fighting when we can still solve everything peacefully.”

The most important thing he wants to stress, Duong said, is that the Philippines and Vietnam should “stand united” so they could “win.”

“We are on the same side.”

Vietnamese can do so as you suggested only if they have such industrial ability.

What did Vietnamese lost in the SCS? Vietnam can send their own oil rigs there to drill for oil same as China, both drill oil in SCS. No one will lose anything but both country will gain all the oil they find in the SCS.

 

[DT1010]

I heard that three argentinians support Vietnam, a teacher, two others I can't remember, and VCP also join Americia Communist conference, and America Communist Party also support vietnam, what's the next?

the only thing you should remember is "no one support china"

 

[Viet]

last time you lie about srilanka PM support your claim, then half an hour later they slaped your face by denying your propoganda. spupid viets want to try this trick again?

slap your face by yourself
the article is still online. the context was not denied by the SL government.

Lanka backs Vietnam over China | Colombo Gazette

 

[Zero_wing]

proof please

wala yan malakas lang maggago yan mga chincom na yan wala na man sila tunay na evidencia puro pag gago lang lakas amoy amats lang yan dami na nila kaaway malapit na rin sila ma resbak

 

[pigtaker]

slap your face by yourself
the article is still online. the context was not denied by the SL government.

Lanka backs Vietnam over China | Colombo Gazette

you thick-skin viets, i don't bother to do the dirty work for you,go to the page 384 of thread
[URL='https://defence.pk/threads/south-china-sea-news-discussions.196058/page-384']South China Sea News & Discussions[/URL]

 

[jkroo]

you thick-skin viets, i don't bother to do the dirty work for you,go to the page 384 of thread
South China Sea News & Discussions

That is called delusions. Delusions comes like :"the whole world support us." Just can't stop it.(炫迈)

South China Sea News & Discussions | Page 384

 

[Viva_Viet]

Every time ASEAN confers about the SCS islands issue, Thailand/Cambodia/Myanmar can be relied on to block VN/PH agenda. So obviously, a mere major-general can't decide Thai policy, and cannot help you. Sounds like you need to kidnap the commander-in-chief and brainwash him for Vietnam's agenda - everybody else is useless. Good luck.

U know the Thai army is controling Thailand now, and if its commander-in-chief dont like someone, he simply kick that guy out, right ? So, this major-Gen will not dare to support VN if the Thai commander-in-chief doesnt allow him to say that.


Or even the Thai commander-in-chief doesnt allow him to support VN, but the pro-VN group in Thai is too strong, so Thai commander-in-chief can not stop him to support VN

Dont forget that VN's had a plan to unite the Sub-Mekong region since 1979. Seem like we successfully set up a strong pro-VN group in Thailand .

 

[BuddhaPalm]

^ Yes even the Thai king announced "Vietnam is the third most powerful military in the world... I abdictate in favor of Vietnam"

 

[tbquestion]

Now I know why the Chinese support Vietnam during the Vietnam war. They didnt want share to share the oil in SCS with any western countries. Only problem is, the US was never after Vietnam 's resource or territories. I wonder who "won" the Vietnam war and was it worth it. Strange that the people who made the decisions in the Vietnam war are still power. These people
(VCP) know that they will be retiring or dead in 10 years, yet they want to bring their nation to the grave with them. I wonder what is worse cancer or Communism? Cancer affect individuals (hopefully VCP), but Communism destroy a whole nation.