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These paper evidence just for reference in the court, in real world we have CHINA COAST GUARD and 10,000ton patrolling ships to protect our XiSha islands. And strong China shipbuilding industry can provide more ships.

CHINA COAST GUARD
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CFA 15,000ton patrolling ships, retired PLAN Ocean Supply Ship. :D
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4,000ton patrolling ships, retired PLAN warships
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China shipbuilding industry building more ships.
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China is using a strategy to bog down all its rival economy progress by forcing them into unnecessary and expensive military build up which corrode their economy expansion. And some countries are stupidly suck into this game trying to match China unit by unit.
 
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I never see this map. PTS or real !? hard to said.
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About these text, it's still not prove that we admitted Spratly and Paracel belong to China. The book was got info from Chinese source, and inform "the arc of Island from Xisha, Nansha to Hainan, Taiwan ... create the great wall to protect mainland China"

The map and the text were took from two difference book, so it's very weak point to prove Chinese claim (If the map was real ).
Plus, it's very not logical, when Vietnamese alway said not recognize China 11-dash-lines (became 9 later) map and Chinese claim about Spratly and Paracel in official way, but inform Vietnam people that Paracel and Spratly Island belong to China (again, if the map was real ) !???

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I never see this map. PTS or real !? hard to said.
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About these text, it's still not prove that we admitted Spratly and Paracel belong to China. The book was got info from Chinese source, and inform "the arc of Island from Xisha, Nansha to Hainan, Taiwan ... create the great wall to protect mainland China"

The map and the text were took from two difference book, so it's very weak point to prove Chinese claim (If the map was real ).
Plus, it's very not logical, when Vietnamese alway said not recognize China 11-dash-lines (became 9 later) map and Chinese claim about Spratly and Paracel in official way, but inform Vietnam people that Paracel and Spratly Island belong to China (again, if the map was real ) !???

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Doesn't matter, the maps of our Imperial Dynasty clearly shows Paracels & Spratly are part of Viet Nam's territory while the map of Imperial Qing clearly did not show the two island chains were part of their territory.

Now, my maternal hometown Da Nang is missing a piece (Paracel islands):(
 
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These paper evidence just for reference in the court, in real world we have CHINA COAST GUARD and 10,000ton patrolling ships to protect our XiSha islands. And strong China shipbuilding industry can provide more ships.

CFA 15,000ton patrolling ships, retired PLAN Ocean Supply Ship. :D
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LOL, so this is "so-call" "newly build" 15000 tons patrol ship which so many Chinese keep swank about it so much ... :rofl:

If you considered those papers can use for reference in the court, so Could Chinese dare to go to the court if Vietnam brought it on international court !? :coffee:
 
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Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hong Lei's Regular Press Conference on June 5, 2014
Q: The G7 Summit issued an announcement on June 4 expressing concerns over the current situation in the East China Sea and the South China Sea. How does China respond?

A:China is a staunch champion of peace and stability in the East China Sea and the South China Sea, cooperation and development of regional countries as well as the principles and purposes of the UN Charter, basic norms governing international relations and basic principles of international laws. The last thing China wants to see is any turmoil in its neighboring areas including the East China Sea and the South China Sea. China strongly upholds the territorial sovereignty, maritime rights and interests as well as national security, and always safeguards the order and navigation freedom in relevant airspace and waters in accordance with international laws and international practices. China is committed to solving relevant disputes concerning the East China Sea and the South China Sea with countries directly concerned through bilateral coordination and negotiation on the basis of respecting historical facts and the international laws. This is an important consensus reached between China and relevant countries, and is also in line with the interests and aspirations of the majority of countries and peoples in this region. However, as for the provocative acts taken by certain country to willfully violate China's sovereignty and rights and interests as well as deliberately undermine maritime peace and stability, China will respond with firm resolve.

Practices have proven again and again that negotiation and coordination between parties concerned is the most effective way to solve the disputes; the internationalization of relevant disputes as well as the interference and involvement of irrelevant party is neither helpful in solving the disputes nor in realizing regional peace and stability, only making the problem more difficult to settle. Countries outside this region should respect facts on relevant controversial issues and adhere to an objective attitude instead of deliberately hyping up tension, stirring up confrontation or complicating the regional situation.

Q: Since the 981 drilling platform changed the location and started the second phase operation, the Vietnamese side has been disrupting Chinese operations on the sea. The Vietnamese leaders and officials said many times on international occasions that China's operations fall within the exclusive economic zone and the continental shelf of Vietnam, China's operations violate Vietnamese sovereignty and jurisdiction and Vietnam is considering legal actions on relevant issues. What is China's response?

A: After conducting forceful disruptions of the first phase operation of the 981 drilling platform located in the contiguous zone of the Xisha Islands, the Vietnamese side has kept deploying large numbers of vessels including armed vessels to continuously disrupt the second phase normal operation of the 981 drilling platform since May 27. Up to now, the Vietnamese side has altogether rammed into Chinese government vessels for safeguarding security on the scene for over 1,200 times, and has set up large floating objects and obstacles. This action grossly infringes upon China's sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction, jeopardizes the security of Chinese personnel and facilities, violates international laws and basic norms governing international relations, and undermines navigation freedom and safety in this water. China is strongly outraged by and firmly opposed to this.

The location of the 981 drilling platform operation in its second phase is in the southeast to the Zhongjian Island of China's Xisha Islands. It is 17 nautical miles away from the baseline of territorial sea of the Xisha Islands and 160 nautical miles from Vietnam, falling indisputably within the contiguous zone of China's Xisha Islands just as the location of the first phase operation. China's operation fully falls within China's sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction. The exploration work including 2-D and 3-D seismetic research and well site exploration conducted by Chinese companies in the coastal waters of the Xisha Islands has been ongoing for 10 years. The drilling activities carried out this time are routine continuation of relevant exploration work and are fully legal and legitimate.

In response to the provocations of the Vietnamese side, China has maintained maximum restraint and sent government vessels and civilian vessels to uphold the order of normal operation on the sea and safeguard the security of Chinese personnel and facilities. However, the Vietnamese side takes advantage of China's exercise of restraint to complicate the situation and escalate the tension, and further intensifies their actions without any restriction. Here I want to point out that China has firm and unflinching resolve in safeguarding national sovereignty, maritime rights and interests, international laws and the basic norms governing international relations. We will continue to resolutely contain Vietnam's dangerous actions against China's drilling platform. Vietnam's attempt to create disputes on international occasions cannot succeed. Any action taken by the Vietnamese side to magnify and complicate the situation can only harm its own interests. What the Vietnamese side should do at the present is to give up its illusions, immediately stop all provocations and withdraw all vessels from the scene so as to restore tranquility to the sea as soon as possible.


Q: Yesterday the Vietnamese TV station presented a footage showing Chinese vessels chasing down and ramming into two Vietnamese vessels, causing one of them to sink. Does this say that China is the one who takes aggressive actions in the South China Sea? How does China respond to this?

A: I have just briefed you on the current situation when talking about the Vietnamese side's continuous ramming into China's guarding vessels protecting the second phase operation of the drilling platform in the southern waters off China's Zhongjian Island. I can give you a more specific answer, and that is in relevant waters, Chinese vessels are defending and the Vietnamese vessels are attacking. Chinese vessels are only 17 nautical miles away from China's Zhongjian Island, while the Vietnamese vessels marched as far as nearly 160 nautical miles to the scene. Which one is aggressively ramming into the other on the scene? Which one is stirring up tension on the scene? I believe the answer is very clear.



After the press conference, some journalist asked that the recent severely violent crimes in Vietnam against foreign companies involving beating, smashing, looting and burning have caused heavy casualties and enormous property losses to China, and how is Vietnam doing in punishing the perpetrators and making compensations?

The severely violent crimes against foreign companies involving beating, smashing, looting and burning in Vietnam have caused heavy casualties and property losses to Chinese companies. But up to now, the Vietnamese side has not made compensation to Chinese people and companies being hurt in this incident. The Chinese side urges the Vietnamese side to take concrete and effective measures to safeguard the security of life and property as well as the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese personnel and institutions in Vietnam, severely punish the perpetrators and fully compensate for China's losses.
So many lies with his answer, for example: only China deployed PLAN warships and even fighter to that area to protect the rig and attacked Vietnamese forces ...
 
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before that, how about a game of volleyball and soccer and some beer! Cheers to Viet friends.

Philippine, Vietnamese troops drink beer, play volleyball on disputed isle

By By Manuel Mogato and Nguyen Phuong Linh




MANILA/HANOI (Reuters) - Vietnamese and Philippine troops got together on a disputed island in the South China Sea on Sunday to play soccer and volleyball - as well as drink beer - in a display of unity that will not go unnoticed in Beijing.

Philippine naval officials billed the event on the Vietnamese-held island as a chance to show the world there can be harmony in the South China Sea despite a web of overlapping claims to the potentially energy-rich waters.

The gathering on Southwest Cay in the Spratly archipelago also symbolises how once-suspicious neighbours are cooperating in the face of China's growing assertiveness in disputed waters.

About 40 Philippine naval personnel sailed to the island for the day-long event, Philippine naval officials said.

Coincidentally, the Philippines occupied Southwest Cay until early 1975, when troops from then South Vietnam seized it after Philippine forces sailed a couple of miles to Northeast Cay, which was under Manila's control, for a party.

The South Vietnamese were soon displaced by the communist forces of a victorious Hanoi.

Besides playing soccer and volleyball, the troops held a tug-of-war competition, put on cultural shows involving singing and dancing and shared food and beer, said Philippine naval spokesman, Lieutenant-Commander Gerard Fabic.

They also shared information on maritime security, natural disaster warnings and search and rescue operations.

Colonel Le Xuan Thuy, a Vietnamese naval official, said the event reflected the goodwill between the two countries.

He told troops from both sides that current conditions in the region were complicated by the "unruly actions of China seriously violating international laws".

The gathering underscores the growing cooperation between Hanoi and Manila - the two capitals most feeling China's wrath over the South China Sea - even though both still claim Southwest Cay and dispute other islands. Southwest Cay is almost equidistant from Vietnam and the Philippines.

"We are not only bringing down walls of mistrust and suspicion with one another but building trust and confidence towards peacefully resolving our competing claims," said a senior Philippine naval official who declined to be identified.

The Philippines would hold a similar event next year, officials said.

CHINA DRIVING COUNTRIES TOGETHER

The Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei each claim some of the Spratlys, while China, Taiwan and Vietnam claim the whole chain.

China also claims 90 percent of the 3.5 million sq km (1.35 million sq mile) South China Sea, its reach displayed on its official maps with a so-called nine-dash line that extends deep into the maritime heart of Southeast Asia.

Beijing accuses the other claimants of stirring up trouble in the region.

Diplomats and experts have described the nascent partnership between Hanoi and Manila as part of a web of evolving relationships across Asia that are being driven by fear of China as well as doubts among some, especially in Japan, over the U.S. commitment to the region. [ID:nL4N0MV236]

They have said there were increasing levels of trust at a working level, as countries find that China's projection of naval power into Asia's waters is driving them together.

Most recently, Vietnam expressed interest in a legal case Manila filed at an international arbitration tribunal in late March, challenging China over its claims in the South China Sea.

Indeed, Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung said last month his government was considering taking legal action against China following the deployment of a Chinese oil rig to waters that Hanoi also claims. Vietnamese officials have not elaborated.

The Philippine and Vietnamese navies recently agreed to expand cooperation in disputed areas and a Vietnamese guided missile cruiser will soon visit Manila, Philippine naval officials have said.

(Writing by Dean Yates; Editing by Michael Perry)

Cheers Viet friends!
 
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LOL, so this is "so-call" "newly build" 15000 tons patrol ship which so many Chinese keep swank about it so much ... :rofl:

If you considered those papers can use for reference in the court, so Could Chinese dare to go to the court if Vietnam brought it on international court !? :coffee:
It is not about going to court or not. It is about principle and the international norm regarding solving territorial dispute had always been through bilateral negotiation and settlement. Settle territories through court is hardly acceptable.
 
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Viet Nam's indisputeable sovereignty of Song Tu Dong island (Northeast Cay). This island is currently occupied by the Phillipines.

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before that, how about a game of volleyball and soccer and some beer! Cheers to Viet friends.

Philippine, Vietnamese troops drink beer, play volleyball on disputed isle

By By Manuel Mogato and Nguyen Phuong Linh
Wonderful. Much better than fighting each other like before.

I understand that Philippine and Vietnamese's claim on Spratly islands almost completely overlapped each other, so have they work out who should get which island and sea zone yet?
 
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