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International experts are now saying that China is most likely to find gas deposit in the SCS, given that her rig is close by the area where Exon discovered gas deposit in 2011 & 2012.

At that point war b/t China and Vietnam is unavoidable b/c Vietnam will never let China pump the gas out in peace. Right now China is baiting Vietnam into a war b/c she knows that in a few years Vietnam will be too hot to handle. At the moment Vietnam is trying to avoid military confrontation to save her naval assets for the future.

Eventually, Vietnam knows she will have to engage China military because she knows that a bully is never satisfied until he has taken everything from you.

One of the mystery in all this is India position on the SCS matter. Does she wants China to significantly destroy one of her friends in the region?
We all know Russia doestnt care as it knows a bruised Vietnam will buy more weapon from it.

The US, as we knows from the Scaraborough incident with the Philipine wont be doing anything and besides this is a conflict between two communist brothers.
Infact, we dont try to avoid war with China again. We just simply follow the international rules first. we also hope the World know who is right, who is breaking the international rules in this conflict and oppost China with us. We wont fight if China dont fire the first shot.

We have enough anti-ship missile to sink all China warship if war happen.
 
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Feeling hard to accept the Truth that China is just a chess, divided into two parts by US ?? Okay, ur choice.

We dont take a stronger action to ur aggression just bcz the international rules r not allowed to do that. We will collect all evidences (China ships ram VN ship, Chinese coast guard beat up VN fishermen etc) to sue u first.:pop:
A very bad self consolation from vietnamese troll :lol:
 
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U violate our water, violate the international rules, of course we will have to react, and it will make China fall faster coz u will have to waste lots of money in the conflict. More car blash, knife stabbing will happen in China coz ur Gov.t dont have enough money to hire more cops to protect u guys :pop:
lets face the fact VN cant withstand a full invasion by china
 
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The Vietnamese are stupid. Don't listen to whatever they say. They had been using 3rd party to drill in dispute water but nobody says anything. When we do, it becomes a problem? His hypocritical response is unacceptable. It is little bully syndrome.
 
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The Vietnamese are stupid. Don't listen to whatever they say. They had been using 3rd party to drill in dispute water but nobody says anything. When we do, it becomes a problem? His hypocritical response is unacceptable. It is little bully syndrome.

You can not drill in our EEZ.

lets face the fact VN cant withstand a full invasion by china


lets face the fact PAK cant withstand a full invasion by India.
 
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ocoupation with force is not legal for administration. It is worldwide acepted rule of international law. Its bad for China when you did it.

Very sad when China is rising, he is going to be new hooligan in region. It is the fore-predicted signal that USA will coming to rule the region.
What you called occupation is what we call defending our territorial right. The area was never belong to you. No one in the world recognize it belong to you. None. Absolute zero!

We are a peaceful country. But don't mistake this peaceful country will sit back and watch others intruding our national interest without fighting back. We are not the early 20th century China in the mid of chaotic environment that get bullied by others and sit back to let others dictated unequal term with us. We won't let that happen again, not today and not in the future.
 
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Don't know why these macacas are so blind and couldn't see Japan isn't willing to treat China as an enemy and drop all the economic ties with us in favor of this backward jungle. It's an illusion to these dreamers that the jungle could form a dream team with Japan, US, South Korea, Russia, Pinoys to contain us. It's even hilarious that some of them even think North Korea is anti China now with the purge of some pro China leaders. But keep on the sweet dream because it ain't gonna come true anyway.
 
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well, US senator Benjamin Cardin is visting Vietnam right now. he is also the Chairman of the East Asian and Pacific Affairs. He supports Vietnam and sharply critizes China. as the talk is secret, nobody knows details.

Perhaps we will see more US warships soon in the East Vietnam Sea :partay:

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No country in the world recognises your fcking claims. Neither possession of Paracels nor Spratlys that you took from us by force. China will never get international recognition of your occupation without Vietnam consent.
We do not need your "perhaps". Please, just please bring them to the scs right now, we can wait to meet them here.
 
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A dangerous dance: China, Vietnam posture in the South China Sea
By Euan McKirdy, CNN
May 28, 2014 -- Updated 1422 GMT

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Vietnamese Coast Guard 8003, South China Sea (CNN)
It takes a long time to get to the middle of nowhere. For a contingent of almost 40 reporters, hours of waiting both on land and then at sea preceded a trip to one of the world's most hotly contested areas of maritime real estate.
The Vietnamese government had been at pains to keep this media trip under wraps, keeping print, online and broadcast journalists from Asia and the United States guessing as to the day and time of departure.
That secrecy may have been for naught: at a pre-departure briefing we are told that while the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has not formally informed its Chinese counterpart of the presence of journalists in the area, a Coast Guard official mentions that "chances are" China knows about it.
But depart we do, boarding a small coastguard support vessel Monday evening as the sun dies over Da Nang, bound for the disputed waters surrounding the South China Sea's Paracel Islands, known to China as the Xisha Islands.
China's controversial installation of an oil-rig in these waters at the beginning of May sparked protests -- some of which turned violent -- in Vietnam and statements from a variety of world leaders, urging the two sides to resolve this dispute quickly and without bloodshed.

One side, at least, appears to be in agreement. "The Vietnamese Coast Guard are committed to resolving the situation peacefully," says Hoang Tuan Anh, the captain of the supply ship upon which we hitch a ride.
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Strictly utilitarian, our sturdy ride boasts one 125mm cannon on its prow and two 14.5mm guns aft. It is the kind of supply ship that every coast guard needs, and also houses a huge number of plastic 10-gallon jugs of drinking water, a galley piled with vegetables, and a bevy of live chickens under one of the exterior staircases -- supplies badly needed by their crew mates and friends on the front line.
As the sun rises again the next morning, we're still chugging steadily toward our destination, claimed by both China and Vietnam.

Clear message
A mid-sea ship change to CG 8003 -- and slightly less cramped conditions -- awaits us as noon approaches. By then we have reached the area where China had, earlier in the month, unilaterally planted a flag on this area of supposedly oil rich sea. The flag, in this case, was an imposing oil-rig that sent a clear message: the Xisha Islands are ours to do with what we will.

No buoys mark the territory, and there is no landfall in sight: just a shimmering expanse of deep water, albeit one with the promise of fossil fuel riches beneath.
As we arrive news comes that the rig -- run by state-owned oil company the China National Offshore Oil Corporation's (CNOOC) -- has been moved: no small task for something as big and unwieldy -- yet politically volatile.
The operation to move the structure began on Monday morning and was completed by 10.30 p.m. local time, just hours after our voyage began but, equally, hours before we arrived in the zone.
It is the first time that a boat has been sunk in this chapter of the often-acrimonious relationship between these two ideologically similar neighbors.
Approaching the area, dots on the horizon become ships, which then become a flotilla -- or perhaps more accurately two separate flotilla -- of both Chinese and Vietnamese commercial and coast guard vessels.
This mishmash of fishing and military vessels is all that remains of the flashpoint of a couple of weeks ago, and in a seemingly stage-crafted set of maneuvers dance around this expanse of utterly blue, clear sea.
Aggressive foghorns
It's a lively affair, alternating between angry, static-y rhetoric that informs the Chinese that they are in violation of international law, and aggressive foghorns and sirens, raising a cacophony on this otherwise peaceful, sunny afternoon.
"I've traveled out to these waters many times but recently the Chinese have been more aggressive towards the Vietnamese," says Hoang, captain of the support vessel. "I'm proud to protect Vietnam."
The dance is supervised by the respective country's coast guard vessels, who hopefully have too much sense to engage directly with each other. But hanging over the day's events is the knowledge that just hours before, a Chinese fishing vessel had rammed and sunk one of its Vietnamese counterparts.

No lives were lost in this incident but it is the first time that a boat has been sunk in this chapter of the often-acrimonious relationship between these two ideologically similar neighbors.
As the afternoon begins to wrap up, one of the larger Chinese coast-guard vessel homes in on our ship, horn blasting incoherently as it attempts a little maritime brinksmanship.
Nobody on board CG 8003 seems to be overly worried, although life jackets are donned as a fillip. Like a dog reaching the end of its chain, the Chinese vessel barks at us a few remaining times, before turning heel.
Off the starboard bow, two other Chinese vessels harry a smaller Vietnamese fishing boat, pushing it further from the center of this disagreement which, if left untended, could have dramatic consequences for these two countries, key players in a region that is -- perhaps belatedly -- starting to buck under the weight of Chinese hegemony.

A dangerous dance: China, Vietnam posture in the South China Sea - CNN.com
 
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A dangerous dance for our Vietnamese friends indeed. Foolishness and bravery is a fine line. A sick wolf angering a dragon is foolish at best.
 
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