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Status quo is the best solution for all of us, just let arbitrary council to take control over hundreds islands and islet in South China sea and every country hold off all of their claims over South China Sea.

BTW, It is disgusting to see China claims over all of South China Sea, even they include Natuna and surrounding area in their claims.

Just like in the picture of their new passport issue
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Status quo is the best solution for all of us, just let arbitrary council to take control over hundreds islands and islet in South China sea and every country hold off all of their claims over South China Sea.

BTW, It is disgusting to see China claims over all of South China Sea, even they include Natuna and surrounding area in their claims.

Just like in the picture of their new passport issue
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The Chinese robbed our Paracel Island at gunpoint in 1974 while we were in our civil war. Yet, this same people who believe in might is right are still crying, whining, and begging the Japanese for an official apology for rapping them during WW2
 
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Paracels are not legal your islands, since you invaded it in the modern age (1974).
We, Vietnamese, were owning and administrating Paracel Islands from 18th Century, we pitched the flag in 1816, we have a lot of documents about setting our sovereignty and administrating those islands, a lot of documents from the Westerners that recognize and affirm our right. Leave your email and we will send you our proofs. What do you have? Some chinese fishermen visited it? You named it? Well, nothing you have done is relating to claiming sovereignty. The chinese never cared about Paracels until the 20th Century when it finally had a little power, and in 1974 you bring your navy there to invade our sovereign islands.
Wasn't Vietnam a vassal state of China in 18th century? How could Vietnam govern those remote uninhabited islands without full diplomatic function and navy? Ancient Chinese didn't have the concept of sea sovereignty. No to mention ancient Vietnamese. I feel funny that Vietnamese believe their ancestors had the concept beyond the era they lived.
 
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phillipines is clearer about the right for islands state. but china never respect the other eez, for example phillipines. let see phillipin caught chinese fishermen in their eez or not. china would use historical u shape line instead of unclos
 
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Vietnamese people were living in Paracel before china occupied whit force. EZZ of Paracel belong to Vietnam, not China. Paracels is closer to Vietnam than China.

Nope, Paracel Islands are closer to Hainan (China) than to Vietnam.
 
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atatwolf bring his wet dream back again. LOL, why u looks so funny in PDF ? This time is APPLE, where is ur Stealth Corvette and Samurai Sword ?

Future after PLAN finish 20x 052C/D and 055 DDGs building, China won't give ur guys NEXT TIME.

Don't forget the Type 095/096.

The Type 095 is comparable to the Seawolf class, and the Type 096 can carry the SLBM JL-3 up to 12000km with 10 MIRVed thermonuclear warheads.
 
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It is in our country. To China: Do not say what should the Filipino do in our territory.

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Not only that our academic and government research scientists and volunteers recently began exploring Benham Rise. This is bigger than the 10.5-million hectare Luzon, the underwater Benham Rise is believed to be rich in steel-producing minerals and natural gas. This can help the Philippines become energy self-sufficient and even export it in the future.

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I just hope China wouldn't come up with old maps and another dashes and claim it has another fake historical rights :lol:
 
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The US will support the Philippines against China's indisputable stupidity.

US will say but do nothing. Georgia and Ukraine are best example. But anyway, the area 7 is not under dispute. No issue with China. As for area 3 , no company will dare to go and drill there. CMS ship will make sure the company go bust. :lol:
 
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Blue Ridge encounters Chinese ships near disputed isle

A Chinese navy vessel is seen from an MH-60 helicopter assigned to USS Blue Ridge as the U.S. Navy conducts flight operations in support of maritime security operations in the South China Sea.
U.S. NAVY
By Erik Slavin
Stars and Stripes
Published: May 9, 2014

YOKOSUKA NAVAL BASE, Japan — A USS Blue Ridge-embarked helicopter photographed two Chinese navy ships May 5 near the site of a heavily contested shoal that has sparked a months-long standoff between China and the Philippines in 2012.

The Navy’s photo release of two Chinese Navy ships near Scarborough Shoal sparked some online news outlets to label the encounter a confrontation, which 7th Fleet officials disputed Friday.

USS Blue Ridge, the Japan-based 7th Fleet’s flagship, transited without incident near the two ships, Navy officials said.

All parties acted professionally, said 7th Fleet spokesman Cmdr. William Marks, who is embarked aboard Blue Ridge.

“There wasn’t any communication [with the Chinese] due to both Blue Ridge and its helicopter being a safe distance away,” Marks said.

Hull numbers in the Navy photos indicate the Chinese ships were the destroyer Lanzhou and the frigate Hengshui.

The visit near Scarborough was not a freedom of navigation operation, Marks said in response to a Stars and Stripes question.

In 2013, U.S. ships conducted such operations on China, Iran and 10 other countries in order to assert navigation rights in waters that the U.S. and many other countries consider international, according to an annual Defense Department report to Congress.

However, China’s views on what ships can do while transiting international waters differ from U.S. interpretations.

China maintains ambiguous claims to about 90 percent of the South China Sea through its “9-dash line” map, which shows dashes surrounding most of the sea. The Philippines filed a 4,000-page brief in international court on March 30 challenging the map, though China has declined to participate in the proceedings.

In 2012, a Philippine navy vessel attempted to arrest Chinese fishermen for taking coral and sea life from the Scarborough Shoal’s nearby waters, sparking intervention by Chinese maritime surveillance ships.

The standoff continued for months and sparked protests in both countries.

Scarborough Shoal lies within the Philippines’ exclusive economic zone, but China claims the shoal and the nearby Spratly Islands based on historical discovery.

The shoal, alternately referred to as Scarborough Reef, is about 430 miles from the Paracel Islands, where China and Vietnam currently have dozens of ships engaged in a standoff near China’s $1 billion deep water oil rig.

On May 7, Vietnam released purported video of Chinese ships ramming and firing water cannons at Vietnamese ships there. China claims Vietnam is the aggressor in the waters near the Paracels, which both countries claim.

Although both the Paracel and Spratly islands are mostly uninhabited, the energy reserves and fisheries in their nearby waters are believed to be extensive.
Blue Ridge encounters Chinese ships near disputed isle - News - Stripes
China is in difficult situation now, Its navy must stand by and ready for War with VN navy around the oil rig, mean while US and Phil navy r ready to take back Scarborough Shoal

Lets see if China dare to fight with VN- US-Phil navy at the same time :pop:
 
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Is what can Vietnam do? :lol: I am waiting?

Firstly, let's the world know the true face of china. The country that can't do what it signed for. The country that doesn't know that when you sign something, you have to do that. The country that breaks international laws. The greedy invaders.
 
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China is in difficult situation now, Its navy must stand by and ready for War with VN navy around the oil rig, mean while US and Phil navy r ready to take back Scarborough Shoal

Lets see if China dare to fight with VN- US-Phil navy at the same time :pop:

:lol: Look after yourself now. Fancy its Vietnam in difficult situation rather in China. Big oil rig still there and drilling oil.
 
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Firstly, let's the world know the true face of china. The country that can't do what it signed for. The country that doesn't know that when you sign something, you have to do that. The country that breaks international laws. The greedy invaders.

Are you desperate? You talk but no action? Though your compatriot very brave and talkin about fighting China? No action. :lol:
 
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Wasn't Vietnam a vassal state of China in 18th century? How could Vietnam govern those remote uninhabited islands without full diplomatic function and navy? Ancient Chinese didn't have the concept of sea sovereignty. No to mention ancient Vietnamese. I feel funny that Vietnamese believe their ancestors had the concept beyond the era they lived.

You definitely know that your 'vassal state' thing has no effects in the International Court, don't you? It's just what you masturbate with.
Yes, you didn't have the concept of sea sovereignty. And we had. That's why we had the legal sovereignty. Isn't it so simple?
 
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anybody knows where the oil rig now is, and how many vessels from VN and CN there?
 
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