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I believe China is becoming a clown nation. The PLA stages endless military exercises in the East and South China Sea, and its media posts endless hate speeches against neighbors. Recently China´s navy even shot at a Vietnamese fishing vessel and conducted landing maneuver near Malaysia coast.

However they love to play the victim card, accusing Vietnam, Philippines and others of provocations. I´m afraid that Chinese military leaders vow to copy N. Korea style of provocation, turning the entire region into a battle field.

Mr Xi, where are you?

PS: for anyone, who is not aware: Global Times is the mouthpiece of the Communist Party of China. :tdown:

don't you know that Mr Xi was born in a military family?
 
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I believe China is becoming a clown nation. The PLA stages endless military exercises in the East and South China Sea, and its media posts endless hate speeches against neighbors. Recently China´s navy even shot at a Vietnamese fishing vessel and conducted landing maneuver near Malaysia coast.

However they love to play the victim card, accusing Vietnam, Philippines and others of provocations. I´m afraid that Chinese military leaders vow to copy N. Korea style of provocation, turning the entire region into a battle field.

Mr Xi, where are you?

PS: for anyone, who is not aware: Global Times is the mouthpiece of the Communist Party of China. :tdown:

The one who got strength off late and never know the supremacy will always behave like a bully and in a confused manner. The disputes in SCS and East Sea will do damage to China more than any country there.
 
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Japanese Study Warns of China's Rising Military Assertiveness


VOA News
March 29, 2013

A Japanese government-funded study published Friday is warning that China is becoming less afraid of angering its neighbors as it pursues a bolder maritime policy.

The annual report by the National Institute for Defense Studies said China's rising national strength and enhanced military capabilities are helping drive Beijing's rising assertiveness.

China-Japan relations have suffered since September when Tokyo nationalized a group of East China Sea islands that have been the focus of a decades-long dispute.

Beijing responded angrily. It began sending regular government ships to patrol the Japanese-controlled islands, in what observers say is an effort to establish de facto control of the area.

The Japanese report Friday said signs of Chinese aggression were evident before the island purchase. It said China's actions "clearly reveal it was meticulously preparing measures for advancing its claim over the islands from a very early stage."

Ralph Cossa, president of the Hawaii-based Pacific Forum, says the Japanese report is an attempt to "throw the ball back in China's court."

"The Chinese have said the problem was the nationalization of those islands, that this changed the status quo, and that it is all Japan's fault," said Cossa. "So the Japanese are trying to point out that the Chinese were already preparing to do this, they were already flexing their muscles in the South China Sea and they were already doing other things."

Cossa says there is a degree of truth to the argument of both sides. But he says the report will not likely change Japan's foreign policy since it is already well aware of what it is dealing with in China.

He says China may continue to "annoy" and "bully" the Japanese over the island issue, but he does not foresee a wider conflict between the two Asian powers.

"The real question is now that [Chinese President] Xi Jinping has fully come to power, will he want to defuse some of this or will he want to continue to ratchet it up?" asked Cossa. "We've seen some signals in both directions, so I think it's a little too soon to tell."

Observers are also watching Japan's new leader, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who is known for his nationalistic views and has taken a firm stance on the island issue since coming to power.
 
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The one who got strength off late and never know the supremacy will always behave like a bully and in a confused manner. The disputes in SCS and East Sea will do damage to China more than any country there.
In short the big bully hits the road and threatens others around the corner. The most funny part is, the bully cries "foul".

One must know, Chinese navy recently conducted a war game in the Zengmu Reef (James Shoal), claiming it is China´s southernmost part. But where the hell is the 'southernmost point of Chinese territory'?

It lies actually under the sea: in a depth of 22 metres (72 ft)! It is invisible.

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In short the big bully hits the road and threatens others around the corner. The most funny part is, the bully cries "foul".

One must know, Chinese navy recently conducted a war game in the Zengmu Reef (James Shoal), claiming it is China´s southernmost part. But where the hell is the 'southernmost point of Chinese territory'?

It lies actually under the sea: in a depth of 22 metres (72 ft)! It is invisible.


Soon the bully will realize the policy of it in SCS is a failure and should not have done the bullying.
 
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China and Vietnam should stop. This dispute is going no where. I say it's best to reach an agreement and send all fishing ships from both nations back home.
 
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don't you know that Mr Xi was born in a military family?
Do you know if Xi still has the control over the army? I wonder if you can laugh when China becomes a military dictatorship.
 
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China and Vietnam should stop. This dispute is going no where. I say it's best to reach an agreement and send all fishing ships from both nations back home.

This dispute will continue for real because vietnamese are belligerent in nature and we are ready to protect our territory intact!

Do you know if Xi still has the control over the army? I wonder if you can laugh when China becomes a military dictatorship.

It aint matter who is in control and what label you insert into our name

As long as sovereignty is concerned we wont let up!
 
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vietnam is india friend
india will save vietnam
chinese are scared
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Yeah, Vietnam welcomes you in the region. Let us staging some fun games. :partay:

This dispute will continue for real because vietnamese are belligerent in nature and we are ready to protect our territory intact!
You moron. Your territory? can you tell me how you discovered the James Shoal?
It aint matter who is in control and what label you insert into our name

As long as sovereignty is concerned we wont let up!
You don´t want to end up as cannon fodder, do you?

Mr Xi repeatly demands the PLA must be loyal to him and the party. Why? Because he fears the PLA does not follow him. Wake up!
 
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Yeah, Vietnam welcomes you in the region. Let us staging some fun games. :partay:

you will end up having your last breath in a second


You moron. Your territory? can you tell me how you discovered the James Shoal?

you were a vassal state to us when our people were fishing in the terrirtory

You don´t want to end up as cannon fodder, do you?

yeah cant want please fire the first shot and we are glad to end this never ending whining from the vietcongs for good!

Mr Xi repeatly demands the PLA must be loyal to him and the party. Why? Because he fears the PLA does not follow him.

If it was not because of Xi and Hu, vietnam's illegal occupation in SCS would have ended long ago
 
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China puts itself above int’l law: Carl Thayer


TUOITRENEWS
UPDATED : 03/29/2013 11:36 GMT + 7

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Captain Pham Quang Thanh on the fishing boat that was fired at by a Chinese naval boat off Hoang Sa (Paracel) Islands of Vietnam on March 20, 2013


Commenting on the fact that a Chinese naval ship recently fired at a Vietnamese fishing boat off Vietnam’s Hoang Sa (Pacacel) Islands in the East Sea, an Australian professor said that “if China steps up aggressive actions it will be counter-productive. China puts itself above international law by engaging in dangerous practices.”

Emeritus Professor Carlyle A. Thayer at the School of Humanities and Social Sciences under the University of New South Wales at the Australian Defense Force Academy in Canberra, made the statement in an interview with Tuoi Tre on Thursday.

When asked by Tuoi Tre about his comments on the incident that took place on March 20, the professor said, “As a consequence of China’s raising the status of Sansha city to a prefecture and establishing a military garrison, the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has been given enhanced responsibility to enforce China’s jurisdiction around the Paracel Islands.

“Vietnam can expect more incidents involving its fishermen as the weather improves. In May China will once again impose its unilateral fishing ban. China will step up patrols.”

The professor also said that “it is rare for the PLAN to be directly involved in fishing incidents. The firing of the flares directly at a Vietnamese fishing boat is an irresponsible and dangerous act. But it is better than firing live rounds. At the moment it is best to view this incident as an isolated one. If more PLAN ships become involved in enforcing Chinese jurisdiction against fishermen using similar tactics it will be a sign of the enhanced role of the military in policy-making towards the East Sea.”

He also answered some other questions from Tuoi Tre.

Q: Do you see any motives behind this new incident? Is this because of the new leadership transition or the new arms deals with Russia that China wanted to test Vietnam's reactions or is it a test to the US as John Kerry is soon heading for a first Asia trip in two weeks' time?

A: I would caution against finding larger causes for what I believe should be taken as an isolated incident. It is more likely that Chinese naval captains have been given wide latitude in their operations and can operate with impunity against Vietnamese or Filipino fishermen without fear of punishment. I doubt that firing flares at a Vietnamese fishing craft was designed to test Vietnam’s reactions. The Vietnamese government responded appropriately by lodging a formal protest.

The new leadership is now only beginning to unify China’s many of civilian enforcement agencies. It will take some time to co-ordinate their activities. I do not see this incident related to Russian arms sales to China. But it is likely China will show stronger determination in dealing with Secretary Kerry on maritime issues. But the dispute with China and Japan has higher priority.

If China steps up aggressive actions in the East Sea it will be counter-productive. In my view the cause of this incident is a result of Chinese arrogance in asserting their claims to sovereignty in the East Sea and giving their local authorities too much leeway in dealing with encounters with foreign craft. China puts itself above international law by engaging in dangerous and unsafe practices.

Q: Is there anything we can do for now as the fishing harassment has been going on for quite some time already?

A: Vietnamese fishermen will always face harassment from Chinese authorities – whether civilian or military – because of the stance that the Chinese government has taken. If China really wanted to promote its peaceful rise and turn the East Sea into a region of “peace, cooperation and development,” it would negotiate a fishing agreement with Vietnam that permitted regulated fishing in disputed waters. Already the fisheries are being depleted due to overfishing and environmental pollution.

Chinese fishermen are going further south to catch fish. Rather than act unilaterally, China should be seeking win-win solutions such as cooperating with other littoral states in effective fisheries management.
 
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you will end up having your last breath in a second
Do you want to threat India? You should know India is not a pushover.

Oh, we are so scared of an Indian-Viet alliance! We know how capable they are in the rate of rape cases...
What if they stop sending Viet girls over the border? We are really scared...
Do you want to be banned?
 
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The one who got strength off late and never know the supremacy will always behave like a bully and in a confused manner.

Just like Indians started doing after 1000 year muslim rule. Its like pot calling the kettle black even though the pot here is India where as the kettle may not be all that black. :coffee:
 
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Yeah, Vietnam welcomes you in the region. Let us staging some fun games. :partay:You moron. Your territory? can you tell me how you discovered the James Shoal?You don´t want to end up as cannon fodder, do you?Mr Xi repeatly demands the PLA must be loyal to him and the party. Why? Because he fears the PLA does not follow him. Wake up!
i remember you guys only troll in threads in relative to Vietnam or SCS.seems you took new orders that to troll in every thread about China!wish you get more money simultaneously
 
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