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put your money where your mouth is.
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put your money where your mouth is.
Calm Down.Angry Young man.
We started the war with US first, too.China is far weaker than US,who cares if u're big or small? We overthrowed ur ally Pol Pot,u couldn't do anything to stop us. If u invade VN,then war is inevitable.let's see who will have the last laugh
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PH cautious on China oil offer
The Philippines is taking with caution Chinese Ambassador Ma Keqing’s declaration of Beijing’s openness to a joint exploration for oil and gas in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea), a position more recently reiterated by China’s foreign ministry to show its commitment to a peaceful resolution of the maritime dispute embroiling both countries.
Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said Monday any joint development in disputed territories in the West Philippine Sea should abide by Philippine laws and any business talks should be led by the private sector.
“We take a guarded position on China’s statement on joint development,” said Del Rosario in a text message to the Philippine Daily Inquirer.
“Any commercial negotiations on oil exploration should be left to the private sector parties concerned to undertake. Any exploration agreement in the West Philippine Sea must be in accordance with Philippine law,” the country’s top diplomat said.
In an interview with the Inquirer staff last month, Ma expressed China’s willingness to jointly explore oil and mineral riches in the West Philippine Sea, saying that “it is a still very valid formula” as border disputes may not be solved “in the very short term.”
Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Zhang Zhijun later said in a speech in Beijing that “joint development may still well be a practical approach” in resolving the maritime dispute, asserting that China was against the use of force to settle the issue.
Del Rosario declined to comment further when asked how the seeming openness of the Chinese would impact on the debate on sovereignty over islands in the contested areas.
The Philippines, China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei have conflicting claims over territories in the West Philippine Sea which are believed to be rich in oil, mineral and marine resources.
The China National Offshore Oil Corp. (CNOOC) is known to have started deep-water drilling in parts of the South China Sea.
Taiwan’s Bureau of Mines and state-run oil supplier CPC Corp. have announced plans to begin oil and gas exploration in the waters around Ligao, the biggest island in the disputed Spratlys chain that the Taiwanese call Taiping.
The Philippines meanwhile has oil exploration contracts in parts of the Spratlys within its exclusive economic zone. These are with CNOOC and are held by Filipino businessmen Manuel V. Pangilinan and Ricky Razon through Forum Energy.
China’s statements asserting its commitment to a peaceful resolution to the maritime disputes come amid actions the Philippines has viewed as violations of international law, including the entry of Chinese patrol boats in the disputed waters and the holding of military drills and construction of new infrastructure on one large island.
China established Sansha City on the island as an extension of its southern province of Hainan last year to govern the whole of the Spratlys island chain. It is known to have some 1,000 civilians and 6,000 troops as permanent residents on Sansha.
The Philippines has brought the dispute to the United Nations but China refuses to recognize the world body’s authority, preferring, it has said, to deal bilaterally with the countries it is in conflict with.
PH cautious on China oil offer | Inquirer Global Nation
The Philippines is taking with caution Chinese Ambassador Ma Keqing’s declaration of Beijing’s openness to a joint exploration for oil and gas in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea), a position more recently reiterated by China’s foreign ministry to show its commitment to a peaceful resolution of the maritime dispute embroiling both countries.
Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said Monday any joint development in disputed territories in the West Philippine Sea should abide by Philippine laws and any business talks should be led by the private sector.
“We take a guarded position on China’s statement on joint development,” said Del Rosario in a text message to the Philippine Daily Inquirer.
“Any commercial negotiations on oil exploration should be left to the private sector parties concerned to undertake. Any exploration agreement in the West Philippine Sea must be in accordance with Philippine law,” the country’s top diplomat said.
In an interview with the Inquirer staff last month, Ma expressed China’s willingness to jointly explore oil and mineral riches in the West Philippine Sea, saying that “it is a still very valid formula” as border disputes may not be solved “in the very short term.”
Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Zhang Zhijun later said in a speech in Beijing that “joint development may still well be a practical approach” in resolving the maritime dispute, asserting that China was against the use of force to settle the issue.
Del Rosario declined to comment further when asked how the seeming openness of the Chinese would impact on the debate on sovereignty over islands in the contested areas.
The Philippines, China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei have conflicting claims over territories in the West Philippine Sea which are believed to be rich in oil, mineral and marine resources.
The China National Offshore Oil Corp. (CNOOC) is known to have started deep-water drilling in parts of the South China Sea.
Taiwan’s Bureau of Mines and state-run oil supplier CPC Corp. have announced plans to begin oil and gas exploration in the waters around Ligao, the biggest island in the disputed Spratlys chain that the Taiwanese call Taiping.
The Philippines meanwhile has oil exploration contracts in parts of the Spratlys within its exclusive economic zone. These are with CNOOC and are held by Filipino businessmen Manuel V. Pangilinan and Ricky Razon through Forum Energy.
China’s statements asserting its commitment to a peaceful resolution to the maritime disputes come amid actions the Philippines has viewed as violations of international law, including the entry of Chinese patrol boats in the disputed waters and the holding of military drills and construction of new infrastructure on one large island.
China established Sansha City on the island as an extension of its southern province of Hainan last year to govern the whole of the Spratlys island chain. It is known to have some 1,000 civilians and 6,000 troops as permanent residents on Sansha.
The Philippines has brought the dispute to the United Nations but China refuses to recognize the world body’s authority, preferring, it has said, to deal bilaterally with the countries it is in conflict with.
PH cautious on China oil offer | Inquirer Global Nation
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Well that idea of Ma if apply to them surely China will NEVER engage other country to explore their claimed territory. The issue of territory (whether there is gas or none) must be cleared first to every country/claimant before business venture. It's blatantly unfair to the Filipino people who have natural and legal rights to all the resources within the Philippine territories and Exclusive Economic Zone. It is just a euphemistic way of giving up sovereignty.
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I don't think so, it's not us at first. We had concessions them, but they pressed on our limit...then...
US on 3 Jan officially declare to give up neutral attitude in Senkaku problem. US supports Japan and Senkaku under US's protection, means if China invade Senkaku, US will open fight ( to make China into 3 or 5 or 10 nations, who know ). What do you say Sino invaders ? Shaking like a wet dog...huh ? then turn back and try to bite smallers to take back government/s face in front of her people... ha ha.
Go ahead we are waiting to kick your ash out of the East sea.
Go ahead we are waiting to kick your ash out of the East sea.
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Vietnam Law enforcers at sea
QĐND - Monday, January 07, 2013, 20:38 (GMT+7)
PANO - In spite of having different missions, troops of Marine Police Region 1 and Drug Enforcement Unit 1, under the Vietnam Marine Police Department, have worked together on disseminating laws to fishermen to prevent drug trafficking, protect national sovereignty and the environment, and ensure security at sea.
PANO (people' s army newspaper online) would like to introduce some photos of the troops’ activities.
Cadres from Drug Enforcement Unit 1 disseminating laws to fishermen in Hai Phong City
Cadres from Drug Enforcement Unit 1 disseminating laws to fishermen in Quang Ninh province
Cadres from Drug Enforcement Unit 1 disseminating laws to students in Pham Ngu Lao High School in Thuy Nguyen, Hai Phong City
Flotilla 101’s troops of the Vietnam Marine Police Region 1 taking a break on a ship
QĐND - Monday, January 07, 2013, 20:38 (GMT+7)
PANO - In spite of having different missions, troops of Marine Police Region 1 and Drug Enforcement Unit 1, under the Vietnam Marine Police Department, have worked together on disseminating laws to fishermen to prevent drug trafficking, protect national sovereignty and the environment, and ensure security at sea.
PANO (people' s army newspaper online) would like to introduce some photos of the troops’ activities.
Cadres from Drug Enforcement Unit 1 disseminating laws to fishermen in Hai Phong City
Cadres from Drug Enforcement Unit 1 disseminating laws to fishermen in Quang Ninh province
Cadres from Drug Enforcement Unit 1 disseminating laws to students in Pham Ngu Lao High School in Thuy Nguyen, Hai Phong City
Flotilla 101’s troops of the Vietnam Marine Police Region 1 taking a break on a ship
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New chief seeks early action on SCS dispute
Yohanna Ririhena, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | Headlines | Thu, January 10 2013, 12:02 PM
We are solid: Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa (center) holds the hands of outgoing ASEAN secretary-general Surin Pitsuwan (right) and incoming ASEAN Secretary-General Le Luong Minh during the ASEAN chief handover ceremony at ASEAN Secretariat in Jakarta on Wednesday. (JP/Jerry Adiguna)We are solid: Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa (center) holds the hands of outgoing ASEAN secretary-general Surin Pitsuwan (right) and incoming ASEAN Secretary-General Le Luong Minh during the ASEAN chief handover ceremony at ASEAN Secretariat in Jakarta on Wednesday. (JP/Jerry Adiguna)
Acknowledging the complicated South China Sea (SCS) issue, the new ASEAN Secretary-General Le Luong Minh called on ASEAN members on Wednesday to boost efforts to begin negotiations with China to conclude the Code of Conduct (CoC).
“ASEAN should speed up efforts to negotiate with China to achieve an early conclusion for a Code of Conduct on the South China Sea,” Minh said in his inaugural remarks during the transfer of office ceremony, witnessed by Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa and outgoing ASEAN secretary-general Surin Pitsuwan at the ASEAN Secretariat in Jakarta.
He said the agreement between ASEAN and China on the guidelines for implementing the Declaration on Conduct of parties in the South China Sea (DoC), ASEAN’s six-point principles on the South China Sea and the adoption of the ASEAN-China Joint Statement on the occasion of the 10th Anniversary of the DoC, would serve as “the good ground” to resolve the territorial dispute.
Minh highlighted the sensitivity of the South China Sea. As an important international sea lane, the area is not only echoing the issue of peace and stability for countries in the ASEAN region, but also of maritime security and the safety of navigation for many countries.
China and four ASEAN member states have overlapped claims on the South China Sea. Many fear that the disputes could potentially become Asia’s next flash points for armed conflicts.
The conclusion of CoC is significant in ensuring effective and timely implementation of the ASEAN Political and Security Community Blueprints, especially the measures relating to shaping and sharing standardized conduct, to confidence building, conflict prevention and resolution, he said.
Minh also underlined the need for ASEAN to work together on its focus to build the community with three pillars.
Before assuming his post as ASEAN’s secretary-general, Minh was Vietnam’s deputy minister for foreign affairs. His appointment was formally endorsed by the ASEAN leaders at the 21st ASEAN Summit in Cambodia in November 2012. His five-year tenure started from Jan. 1, 2013 and will last until Dec. 31, 2017.
Surin underlined the need for ASEAN to develop several strategies and initiatives to keep the association relevant and maintain its centrality.
He also urged ASEAN to settle the gaps — both inside and between — member states.
New chief seeks early action on SCS dispute | The Jakarta Post
The Dispute should be solved through diplomacy not armed conflict.
Yohanna Ririhena, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | Headlines | Thu, January 10 2013, 12:02 PM
We are solid: Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa (center) holds the hands of outgoing ASEAN secretary-general Surin Pitsuwan (right) and incoming ASEAN Secretary-General Le Luong Minh during the ASEAN chief handover ceremony at ASEAN Secretariat in Jakarta on Wednesday. (JP/Jerry Adiguna)We are solid: Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa (center) holds the hands of outgoing ASEAN secretary-general Surin Pitsuwan (right) and incoming ASEAN Secretary-General Le Luong Minh during the ASEAN chief handover ceremony at ASEAN Secretariat in Jakarta on Wednesday. (JP/Jerry Adiguna)
Acknowledging the complicated South China Sea (SCS) issue, the new ASEAN Secretary-General Le Luong Minh called on ASEAN members on Wednesday to boost efforts to begin negotiations with China to conclude the Code of Conduct (CoC).
“ASEAN should speed up efforts to negotiate with China to achieve an early conclusion for a Code of Conduct on the South China Sea,” Minh said in his inaugural remarks during the transfer of office ceremony, witnessed by Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa and outgoing ASEAN secretary-general Surin Pitsuwan at the ASEAN Secretariat in Jakarta.
He said the agreement between ASEAN and China on the guidelines for implementing the Declaration on Conduct of parties in the South China Sea (DoC), ASEAN’s six-point principles on the South China Sea and the adoption of the ASEAN-China Joint Statement on the occasion of the 10th Anniversary of the DoC, would serve as “the good ground” to resolve the territorial dispute.
Minh highlighted the sensitivity of the South China Sea. As an important international sea lane, the area is not only echoing the issue of peace and stability for countries in the ASEAN region, but also of maritime security and the safety of navigation for many countries.
China and four ASEAN member states have overlapped claims on the South China Sea. Many fear that the disputes could potentially become Asia’s next flash points for armed conflicts.
The conclusion of CoC is significant in ensuring effective and timely implementation of the ASEAN Political and Security Community Blueprints, especially the measures relating to shaping and sharing standardized conduct, to confidence building, conflict prevention and resolution, he said.
Minh also underlined the need for ASEAN to work together on its focus to build the community with three pillars.
Before assuming his post as ASEAN’s secretary-general, Minh was Vietnam’s deputy minister for foreign affairs. His appointment was formally endorsed by the ASEAN leaders at the 21st ASEAN Summit in Cambodia in November 2012. His five-year tenure started from Jan. 1, 2013 and will last until Dec. 31, 2017.
Surin underlined the need for ASEAN to develop several strategies and initiatives to keep the association relevant and maintain its centrality.
He also urged ASEAN to settle the gaps — both inside and between — member states.
New chief seeks early action on SCS dispute | The Jakarta Post
The Dispute should be solved through diplomacy not armed conflict.
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A Foreign Ministry spokesman on Monday urged the Philippines not to complicate the situation in the South China Sea, as recent media reports have stated that the country may build infrastructure on the Nansha Islands.
"We have seen the reports and will closely watch the development of the situation," spokesman Hong Lei said during a regular news briefing.
Hong said China has indisputable sovereignty over the Nansha Islands and their adjacent waters and opposes any move that could impair China's sovereignty.
"We hope the country concerned will adhere to the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC) and not take any action that could complicate the issue," he said.
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The region needs peace, not war. Even if China is more superior, war will only hurt their economy.
"We have seen the reports and will closely watch the development of the situation," spokesman Hong Lei said during a regular news briefing.
Hong said China has indisputable sovereignty over the Nansha Islands and their adjacent waters and opposes any move that could impair China's sovereignty.
"We hope the country concerned will adhere to the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC) and not take any action that could complicate the issue," he said.
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The region needs peace, not war. Even if China is more superior, war will only hurt their economy.
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We're long time ally of former Soviet and Russia now, so it's not hard to have Missile technology transfer from Russia
Even our nuclear capable plus anti-carrier missile Shaddock alone is far better than any China's anti-ship missile
Those missiles are old. They are slow and inaccurate. Also their size makes it easy for China's Type 730 CIWS.
Even China's YJ-12 is even better. Vietnam's anti ship missiles are utter garbage.
Also Vietnam's ships do make a great coral reef, as long as they are clean.
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Just look at the Middle East, it's a total war zone. Muslims fighting each other and US meddling and military operations have disrupted peace so their defence industry can flourish. If Japan remains stubborn, Vietnam and Philippines wants to make things worse by plotting with the US in an attempt to contain China and if India wants to add fuel into fire then the Asian region will become the next Middle East. Last but not least we have North Korea increasing tensions too.
