South China Sea Forum

[Viet]

That sounds like a great plan, I wonder why the Two Nations haven't talked more about this? I understand why China needs spartly islands; Not so much wanting the resource but rather China doesn't want to be contained by the US, but I think China can resolve that issue by working with Vietnam instead of claiming sovereignty over the entire spartly islands, that way China won't be as contained and they will have a more friendlier relationship with Vietnam

As far as I know, both parties have been in talks since years. Difficult talks of course since the SCS issue not only has high stakes on the table but involves nationalistic sentiment.

If I am correct: last year in Beijing, we reached an agreement that the future sea border between China and Vietnam will base on the current status quo, peaceful solution, international laws (e.i. UNCLOS) and regional committments (e.i. Code of Conducts). In addition both sides want to step up the negotiation by meeting twice per year. Based on these, I made "my SCS-plan".

If both parties are willing to meet halfway, I think a solution is possible.

 

[Viet]

I think VN has never accept that!
Not like dispute with other country in SCS, China and Vietnam have conflict at both Paracel and Spratly Islands which battles began from China side to occupied Islands from Vietnam with military forces.

You´re right with China´s past aggressions. But we cannot undo the past. I am just pragmatic and seek a good solution for us. The current dispute with China is not good for us in the long run. Taking back the Paracels by force is not an option, I believe.

Just my personal thoughts.

 

[cirr]

“CFA 312" in service：

 

[EastSea]

A company under the Defense Ministry on Tuesday launched the ship, one of the most advanced ships used by the Vietnamese marine police.

 

[hurt]

A company under the Defense Ministry on Tuesday launched the ship, one of the most advanced ships used by the Vietnamese marine police.

one of the most advanced ships？

I think that its the only one.

 

[hurt]

A company under the Defense Ministry on Tuesday launched the ship, one of the most advanced ships used by the Vietnamese marine police.

Sorry, only two

 

[EastSea]

Sorry, only two

We have more. Today, VMP is equipped with modern facilities, including a fleet of ships consisting of K206, DN-2000, TT-200, 3500 CV rescue ship, high-speed patrol ships of 120 and 140, a CASA 212-400 aircraft, MS 600 spy device, various kinds of radar, devices for reconnaissance and detecting drug crime and other equipment.

 

[Malaya]

Philippines pulls China-made globes

Chinese-made globes depicting "misinformation" by reflecting Beijing's claim to almost the entire South China Sea have been removed from bookstore shelves in the Philippines.

The globes feature a "nine-dash line", long used by China to demonstrate its territorial claims over waters and islands that are disputed by other Asian nations, including the Philippines.

Bookshops selling the globes have agreed to withdraw them from sale after the Philippine government informed them of the controversy, according to a report in the South China Morning Post.

"The DFA has been able to validate that educational globes which reflect China's nine-dash lines encompassing the South China Sea are being retailed locally by establishments that are totally unaware about the maritime disputes between the Philippines and China," Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) spokesman Raul Hernandez said.

"The management of these establishments are proactively prepared to discuss with the DFA remedies to be able to address the misinformation contained in the educational globes. The Philippines asserts that China's nine-dash line claim is an excessive claim in violation of international law."

The plastic globes initially drew the ire of Filipino Facebook users, who brought them to the attention of the government and the media.

A spokeswoman for the National Book store, where the globes were on sale, said that it was willing to remove them from sale and had notified the supplier.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/335936/philippines-pulls-chinese-made-globes

 

[Malaya]

Kerry supports PH move on South China Sea

MANILA, Philippines - New US Secretary of State John Kerry supports the Philippines' decision to take to international arbitration its dispute with China over the West Philippine Sea, Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said on Thursday, February 14.

During a telephone conversation last night, Kerry gave his support for the efforts of the Philippines to resolve the conflicting claims through the rule of law, particularly the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), Del Rosario explained in a statement issued by the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA).

“I discussed with Secretary Kerry our initiative of bringing the West Philippine Sea issue to arbitration under UNCLOS. I emphasized the importance of this initiative to the future stability of our region in particular and to the future efficacy of international law in general,” he added.

The Philippines' top diplomat also recalled that Kerry already pushed for a peaceful resolution of the dispute when he was a Senator.

“Secretary Kerry was a moving force behind a Senate resolution on the peaceful settlement of disputes in the West Philippine Sea,” the DFA chief said.

Both countries also agreed on working together to build stronger relations between the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) and the United States.

In particular, Del Rosario mentioned the US offer to train ASEAN seafarers, an initiative in which the Philippines can take a lead on.

The global shipping industry, which carries 80% of international trade, employs about 1.2 million seafarers, the bulk of whom are Filipinos.

Rappler.com: Kerry supports PH move on South China Sea

 

[hurt]

We have more. Today, VMP is equipped with modern facilities, including a fleet of ships consisting of K206, DN-2000, TT-200, 3500 CV rescue ship, high-speed patrol ships of 120 and 140, a CASA 212-400 aircraft, MS 600 spy device, various kinds of radar, devices for reconnaissance and detecting drug crime and other equipment.

What is K206 and 3500 CV ?
only 2 DN-2000s 2500 tons
12 TT-200s 200 tons ,only are boats.

Only 8 ships big than 1,000tons include 4 tugs.
Too weak.

 

[NiceGuy]

You´re right with China´s past aggressions. But we cannot undo the past. I am just pragmatic and seek a good solution for us. The current dispute with China is not good for us in the long run. Taking back the Paracels by force is not an option, I believe.

Just my personal thoughts.

Only one solution that sound reasonable:China help VN to take over Itu-aba, VN help China when it attacks Taiwan.Other disupte isles remain status quo.Both win

Control Itu-aba also means VN got unsinkable aircraft carrier in SCS(east sea),it helps us to control the whole dispute region.

 

[Viet]

Only one solution that sound reasonable:China help VN to take over Itu-aba, VN help China when it attacks Taiwan.Other disupte isles remain status quo.Both win

Control Itu-aba also means VN got unsinkable aircraft carrier in SCS(east sea),it helps us to control the whole dispute region.

LOL I don´t believe that China will agree to the deal.

 

[djsjs]

Only one solution that sound reasonable:China help VN to take over Itu-aba, VN help China when it attacks Taiwan.Other disupte isles remain status quo.Both win

Control Itu-aba also means VN got unsinkable aircraft carrier in SCS(east sea),it helps us to control the whole dispute region.

you want to help chinese kill chinese? guess if vietnam invade taiwan,what will we do ?

 

[Viet]

To illustrate the importance of South China Sea as energy sea lane (source: US energy information administration)

 

[NiceGuy]

LOL I don´t believe that China will agree to the deal.

I just give them the way to save their reputation,we're dealing with US to kick those Chinese TW out of Itu-aba now.with or without China,we still have many ways to take it back

you want to help chinese kill chinese? guess if vietnam invade taiwan,what will we do ?

We attack Itu-aba and you only can sit and watch. wanna fight with us?we will sink ur cheap copy warship in no time,your army is only use to take some Photoshp pictures,no use in real combat.We only worry when US support TW and sanction VN.

We just give u a chance to save your face.catch it...or lose all