South China Sea Forum

[anon45]

It is all countries rights to sail in any international sea and air space, and not exclusive to the US rights. Get that facts straight.

They are islands now so the sooner you accept it, the better it is for the world.

Exactly, the US was sailing through international waters, so no Chinese anger or huffing and puffing is warranted.
They are not islands entitled to territorial waters under international law, the sooner you accept it, the better it is for China.

 

[TaiShang]

They are not islands entitled to territorial waters under international law, the sooner you accept it, the better it is for China.

They are islands and growing. And all within international law.

 

[anon45]

They are islands and growing. And all within international law.

Nope to territorial waters we will continue to demonstrate it.

 

[TaiShang]

Nope to territorial waters we will continue to demonstrate it.

No. India will do jack.

 

[C130]

The HQ-9 SAM is now deployed on the islands.

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you make it sound like this wasn't the plan all along


china becoming more imperialist by the year.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

you make it sound like this wasn't the plan all along


china becoming more imperialist by the year.

More imperialist than the imperialists themselves? Not a chance.

Give me a call when China invades 3 separate countries in a single decade, like America did from 2001-2011 (Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq). Not counting bombing and drone attacks in other countries like Syria, otherwise the number would be countless.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

you make it sound like this wasn't the plan all along


china becoming more imperialist by the year.

defending sovereignty ≠ imperialistic attitude

 

[TaiShang]

you make it sound like this wasn't the plan all along


china becoming more imperialist by the year.

Becoming more peace-oriented, to be exact.

Peace through strength. Did not Mahan teach you so?

 

[terranMarine]

you make it sound like this wasn't the plan all along


china becoming more imperialist by the year.

haven't looked at the mirror yet with all the wars the US has been waging for the past decades? When it comes to stealing land your ancestors (Europeans) are 2nd to none

 

[anon45]

No. India will do jack.

glad to see you acknowledge your vulnerability TaiShang.

 

[TaiShang]

glad to see you acknowledge your vulnerability TaiShang.

You are Indian. So, leave we (India) aside.

The issue is between the US and China.

 

[JSCh]

OT, but somewhat relevant, regarding Indian official position vis a vis US.

US regularly conducts operational challenges in Indian EEZ - The Economic Times
By PTI | 20 Oct, 2015, 04.23PM IST

WASHINGTON: The US does not recognise India's territorial claims with regard to territorial waters and exclusive economic zone and has been conducting operational challenges to such claims on a regular interval, US Defence Department officials said.

"India maintains an excessive maritime claim requiring prior consent for military exercises or manoeuvres in its Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ)," a senior Defence Department official told PTI when asked about a recent White House statement that US has challenged India's territorial claims in EEZs.

"The US diplomatically protested the claim in 2007 and conducted operational challenges in 1999, 2001, and 2008 through 2014," said the official, who requested anonymity.

While it is not known what was India's response in these operational challenges by the US naval forces, publicly available information says the United States does not recognise this India's territorial claims since 1976 with regard to territorial waters, continental shelf, exclusive economic zone and other maritime zones.

The US first protested way back in 1976, and then in 1983 and 1997.

And as such the Pentagon has been regularly conducting operational assertions since 1985.

India requires foreign warships to provide notice before entering its territorial water as defined and identified by it.

The Pentagon said it has been carrying out operational challenges in territorial sea, which India says is its own and as such foreign warships need to seek permission from it and notify it, since 1985.

Its warships entered India's EEZ without notifying India multiple times between 1985 through 1989.

After a gap of two years, US warships is believed to have entered Indian EEZs without notifying India or seeking permission from it in 1991, through 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2001, 2007 and 2011.

US warships did the same multiple times in 2014.

 

[sicsheep]

you make it sound like this wasn't the plan all along


china becoming more imperialist by the year.

It was the plan all along, USA just made it seems more legit

 

[BuddhaPalm]

We are escalating the showdown appropriately. Now we are forward deploying and challenging trespassers with collision. Xinhua already declared our intention directly.

China Headlines: U.S. ship patrolling in South China Sea counterproductive - Xinhua | English.news.cn

 

[C130]

It was the plan all along, USA just made it seems more legit

come on now. the charade is over. was your people going to build a hotel resort and casino on these islands mate don't tell me one messily destroyer that the great PLAN followed the entire time is concerned now.