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commies vs commiesIt is evidence of chinese aggressors provocative activities in our sea territory.
Non-commies countries: "Who cares?"
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If I had a cent for every time you said this, I would be a billionaire by now.chinese invaders will be punished like your ancestors in the past.
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Thats like saying Germany will invade France again. Not likely.
Wow. Is this what happen to the might Viet Congs that defeat BOTH the American and the French armies. This can't be true..sniff.. sniff.
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get lost, 5 cent commentator, chinese mestizo !
Beihaiqiu 117 delivered on 26.06.2014 at HPS：
one of 22 such ships（constructed and planned）。
Nanhaiqiu 117
Donghaiqiu 117
Good for intended collisions in the high seas。
LOL. Aww, how cute.
New vertical Chinese map gives greater emphasis to South China Sea claims
China has unveiled a new official map of the country giving greater emphasis to its claims on the South China Sea, making the disputed waters and its numerous islets and reefs more clearly seem like national territory.
Previous maps published by the government already include China's claims to most of the South China Sea, but in a little box normally in a bottom corner to enable the rest of the country to fit on the map.
The new, longer map dispenses with the box, and shows continental China along with its self-declared sea boundary in the South China Sea - stretching right down to the coasts of Malaysia, Vietnam and the Philippines - on one complete map.
"The islands of the South China Sea on the traditional map of China are shown in a cut-away box, and readers cannot fully, directly know the full map of China," the ruling Communist Party's official People's Daily said on its website.
Old maps make the South China Sea's islands appear more like an appendage rather than an integral part of the country, which the new map makes "obvious with a single glance", the report added.
"This vertical map of China has important meaning for promoting citizens' better understanding of ... maintaining (our) maritime rights and territorial integrity," an unnamed official with the map's publishers told the newspaper.
China's foreign ministry said people should not read too much into the issuing of the new map.
"The goal is to serve the Chinese public. As for the intentions, I think there is no need to make too much of any association here," ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told a daily news briefing.
"China's position on the South China Sea issue is consistent and extremely clear. Our stance has not changed."
Beijing claims about 90 percent of the South China Sea, but parts of the potentially energy-rich waters are also subject to claims by the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan.
Philippine Foreign Ministry spokesman Charles Jose said the publication of the map showed China's "unreasonably expansive claims" that he said contravened international law.
"And it is precisely such ambitious expansionism that is causing tension in the South China Sea," he told reporters.
Tensions have risen sharply in the region in recent months, especially between China and both Vietnam and the Philippines.
China's positioning of an oil rig in waters claimed by both Beijing and Hanoi last month has lead to rammings at sea between ships from both countries and anti-Chinese violence in Vietnam.
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PH: China map just a ‘drawing’
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China’s latest published map shows its claim over the South China Sea by marking ten dash lines around the region just off the coasts of Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, and the Philippines’ islands of Palawan and Luzon. PHOTO sourced from China Daily/ANN
MANILA, Philippines — It’s just a drawing that has no bearing, Malacañang on Thursday said of a new map claiming West Philippine Sea as part of China’s territory.
“As a whole, to put it simply, they just drew that. All of these drawings have already been superseded by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea,” Communications Secretary Herminio Coloma Jr. said in Filipino.
Coloma was referring to a map published by state-run news agency Xinhua marking China’s territory with ten dash lines drawn close to the coasts of Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines’ islands of Palawan and Luzon. The said countries have been at odds with China over maritime and territorial disputes in South China Sea.
Coloma recalled that since the reign of Chiang Kai-shek and the Kuomintang government, the Chinese have been drawing lines to mark territories that are not theirs. He said it was an 11-dash line during that time and was replaced by the nine-dash line in modern times.
"You can’t base (territorial claims) on a drawing," he said.
Coloma affirmed the earlier statement of the Department of Foreign Affairs calling the map reflective of the country’s “ambitious expansionism.”
But amid such actions, Coloma said the government will continue to pursue a peaceful, diplomatic and legal resolution to the problem.
He said the Philippines is still calling for the moratorium of construction in disputed areas and finalizing the Declaration on the Code of Conduct in the South China Sea that will serve as a guide for claimant countries.
Coloma also said they are waiting for the arbitral tribunal’s decision on the memorial submitted by the government, clarifying China’s claims.
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Thursday, June 26th, 2014
China’s latest published map shows its claim over the South China Sea by marking ten dash lines around the region just off the coasts of Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, and the Philippines’ islands of Palawan and Luzon. PHOTO sourced from China Daily/ANN
MANILA, Philippines — It’s just a drawing that has no bearing, Malacañang on Thursday said of a new map claiming West Philippine Sea as part of China’s territory.
“As a whole, to put it simply, they just drew that. All of these drawings have already been superseded by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea,” Communications Secretary Herminio Coloma Jr. said in Filipino.
Coloma was referring to a map published by state-run news agency Xinhua marking China’s territory with ten dash lines drawn close to the coasts of Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines’ islands of Palawan and Luzon. The said countries have been at odds with China over maritime and territorial disputes in South China Sea.
Coloma recalled that since the reign of Chiang Kai-shek and the Kuomintang government, the Chinese have been drawing lines to mark territories that are not theirs. He said it was an 11-dash line during that time and was replaced by the nine-dash line in modern times.
"You can’t base (territorial claims) on a drawing," he said.
Coloma affirmed the earlier statement of the Department of Foreign Affairs calling the map reflective of the country’s “ambitious expansionism.”
But amid such actions, Coloma said the government will continue to pursue a peaceful, diplomatic and legal resolution to the problem.
He said the Philippines is still calling for the moratorium of construction in disputed areas and finalizing the Declaration on the Code of Conduct in the South China Sea that will serve as a guide for claimant countries.
Coloma also said they are waiting for the arbitral tribunal’s decision on the memorial submitted by the government, clarifying China’s claims.
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Ex-US admiral: 'Equally forceful' Philippines needed in sea row
By Camille Diola (philstar.com) | June 27, 2014
Dennis Blair, then United States Director of National Intelligence, speaks at the World Affairs Council in Philadelphia in November 2009. WACPhiladelphia
MANILA, Philippines — The Philippines has to stand up to China's gray-zone challenges in the hotly contested South China Sea, instead of only reacting to its behavior.
Dennis Blair, retired chief of the United States Pacific Command and former Director of National Intelligence, said the Philippines, Japan and Vietnam "can't just sit there" and watch as China encroaches in what they consider sovereign territories.
"Of course, you need to think them through carefully, but if the Chinese want to play a game of 'I'll poke you here, and I'll poke you there,' then you have to respond and say, 'Game on." Blair said in an interview with Asahi Shimbun, a transcript of which was posted Wednesday.
"Japan, the Philippines and Vietnam need to take initiatives of their own and be equally forceful in that space," the acknowledged Asia expert advised.
Blair said China will keep on forcefully asserting its claims through unilateral declarations, but will not step beyond the "upper limit" of heightening tensions to become a major conflict.
"On the Chinese side, I think there is a similar sort of a ceiling because China knows that if a major conflict were to occur in the East China Sea or the South China Sea, the effect on China’s economic development would be terrible," Blair said.
"Below that limit, though, the Chinese are sitting around, thinking, “Now, what can I do next? Let's see, I can extend the ADIZ (Air Defense Identification Zone), I can declare a new fishing zone, etcetera," he added.
Neighboring countries should then take advantage of China's self-imposed limit even as it grows in power and believes it can get its way, Blair said.
Blair, who was in the US Navy for 34 years, urged the Philippines and other claimant states to say, "Wait a minute! These are things that matter to us. These are our interests. Together we are stronger than you are."
"These are not things that we hand over to you just because your [gross domestic product] goes up 10 percent a year," Blair said.
The former admiral admitted that Beijing's increasing might has "worried" him for years knowing that it feels entitled to weaker countries' concessions in the decades-long sea row.
He explained that China looks back at its years as a weaker nation and still remembers Japan's invasion in 1931. Now an Asian powerhouse, China is prepared to use its newfound strength to its advantage.
Still, rival claimants "cannot simply make concessions to a country as it grows in power," Blair believes.
"We have to figure out how to counter those actions," he said.
The Philippines has taken a "rules-based approach" in dealing the escalating disputes. It has abandoned seemingly futile direct negotiations with China and resorted to filing an arbitration case before the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.
China has rejected the third-party settlement as the Manila invests on new military assets for a "minimum credible defense" amid the regional dustup.
PH gets Singapore backing in sea dispute
June 25th, 2014
MANILA, Philippines—The Philippines welcomed on Wednesday Singapore’s statement emphasizing the rule of law towards resolving territorial disputes in the South China Sea, reflecting the neighboring city-state’s support for the country’s call to peacefully settle the issue amid escalating tensions with China.
Assistant Secretary Charles Jose, the Department of Foreign Affairs spokesperson, said on Wednesday that Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s comments at a forum in Washington D.C. Tuesday echoed the Philippines’ “battle cry” in pursuing a resolution to the worsening dispute.
“We welcome statements in support of the peaceful settlement of disputes and the primacy of the rule of law, which is essential for peace, security and stability,” Jose told the Philippine Daily Inquirer on Wednesday.
“The call to respect the rule of law has been the battlecry of the Philippines from the beginning,” he said in a statement sent via text message.
Lee earlier said Tuesday that international law must be the basis of resolving territorial disputes in the South China Sea, a six-way contest involving China, Taiwan and Singapore’s fellow members in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean), the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei.
Speaking before the Council on Foreign Relations, an American foreign policy think-tank based in the US capital, Lee said that claimant nations must choose the peaceful path instead of the “might is right” approach.
“I think international law must have a big weight in how disputes are resolved,” Lee said in response to a question about the dispute, as quoted in a report by the Associated Press.
Lee made such comments amid increasing tensions in the South China Sea, with reclamation work by China in territories within the Philippines’ exclusive economic zone (EEZ), and the biggest claimant nation’s recent brushes with Vietnam in the Paracels.
Such incursions continue while the Philippines pursues an arbitration bid before the United Nations to halt Chinese activity within its EEZ, clarify maritime entitlements in the waters and nullify China’s sweeping nine-dash-line claim covering nearly all of South China Sea.
Earlier this month, Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario called for a freeze on provocative activities in the disputed waters, a proposal he hopes to formally make in an upcoming Asean meeting.
Singapore has been supportive of Asean’s efforts to engage China in finalizing a legally binding Code of Conduct (COC) to instill discipline and prevent conflict among claimants pending resolution of the dispute.
The regional bloc has also been calling for strict compliance with the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties, a 2002 non-aggression pact that the Asean is hoping to strengthen through a binding code.
By Camille Diola (philstar.com) | June 27, 2014
MANILA, Philippines — The Philippines has to stand up to China's gray-zone challenges in the hotly contested South China Sea, instead of only reacting to its behavior.
Dennis Blair, retired chief of the United States Pacific Command and former Director of National Intelligence, said the Philippines, Japan and Vietnam "can't just sit there" and watch as China encroaches in what they consider sovereign territories.
"Of course, you need to think them through carefully, but if the Chinese want to play a game of 'I'll poke you here, and I'll poke you there,' then you have to respond and say, 'Game on." Blair said in an interview with Asahi Shimbun, a transcript of which was posted Wednesday.
"Japan, the Philippines and Vietnam need to take initiatives of their own and be equally forceful in that space," the acknowledged Asia expert advised.
Blair said China will keep on forcefully asserting its claims through unilateral declarations, but will not step beyond the "upper limit" of heightening tensions to become a major conflict.
"On the Chinese side, I think there is a similar sort of a ceiling because China knows that if a major conflict were to occur in the East China Sea or the South China Sea, the effect on China’s economic development would be terrible," Blair said.
"Below that limit, though, the Chinese are sitting around, thinking, “Now, what can I do next? Let's see, I can extend the ADIZ (Air Defense Identification Zone), I can declare a new fishing zone, etcetera," he added.
Neighboring countries should then take advantage of China's self-imposed limit even as it grows in power and believes it can get its way, Blair said.
Blair, who was in the US Navy for 34 years, urged the Philippines and other claimant states to say, "Wait a minute! These are things that matter to us. These are our interests. Together we are stronger than you are."
"These are not things that we hand over to you just because your [gross domestic product] goes up 10 percent a year," Blair said.
The former admiral admitted that Beijing's increasing might has "worried" him for years knowing that it feels entitled to weaker countries' concessions in the decades-long sea row.
He explained that China looks back at its years as a weaker nation and still remembers Japan's invasion in 1931. Now an Asian powerhouse, China is prepared to use its newfound strength to its advantage.
Still, rival claimants "cannot simply make concessions to a country as it grows in power," Blair believes.
"We have to figure out how to counter those actions," he said.
The Philippines has taken a "rules-based approach" in dealing the escalating disputes. It has abandoned seemingly futile direct negotiations with China and resorted to filing an arbitration case before the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.
China has rejected the third-party settlement as the Manila invests on new military assets for a "minimum credible defense" amid the regional dustup.
PH gets Singapore backing in sea dispute
June 25th, 2014
MANILA, Philippines—The Philippines welcomed on Wednesday Singapore’s statement emphasizing the rule of law towards resolving territorial disputes in the South China Sea, reflecting the neighboring city-state’s support for the country’s call to peacefully settle the issue amid escalating tensions with China.
Assistant Secretary Charles Jose, the Department of Foreign Affairs spokesperson, said on Wednesday that Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s comments at a forum in Washington D.C. Tuesday echoed the Philippines’ “battle cry” in pursuing a resolution to the worsening dispute.
“We welcome statements in support of the peaceful settlement of disputes and the primacy of the rule of law, which is essential for peace, security and stability,” Jose told the Philippine Daily Inquirer on Wednesday.
“The call to respect the rule of law has been the battlecry of the Philippines from the beginning,” he said in a statement sent via text message.
Lee earlier said Tuesday that international law must be the basis of resolving territorial disputes in the South China Sea, a six-way contest involving China, Taiwan and Singapore’s fellow members in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean), the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei.
Speaking before the Council on Foreign Relations, an American foreign policy think-tank based in the US capital, Lee said that claimant nations must choose the peaceful path instead of the “might is right” approach.
“I think international law must have a big weight in how disputes are resolved,” Lee said in response to a question about the dispute, as quoted in a report by the Associated Press.
Lee made such comments amid increasing tensions in the South China Sea, with reclamation work by China in territories within the Philippines’ exclusive economic zone (EEZ), and the biggest claimant nation’s recent brushes with Vietnam in the Paracels.
Such incursions continue while the Philippines pursues an arbitration bid before the United Nations to halt Chinese activity within its EEZ, clarify maritime entitlements in the waters and nullify China’s sweeping nine-dash-line claim covering nearly all of South China Sea.
Earlier this month, Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario called for a freeze on provocative activities in the disputed waters, a proposal he hopes to formally make in an upcoming Asean meeting.
Singapore has been supportive of Asean’s efforts to engage China in finalizing a legally binding Code of Conduct (COC) to instill discipline and prevent conflict among claimants pending resolution of the dispute.
The regional bloc has also been calling for strict compliance with the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties, a 2002 non-aggression pact that the Asean is hoping to strengthen through a binding code.
LOL. Aww, how cute.
New vertical Chinese map gives greater emphasis to South China Sea claims
China has unveiled a new official map of the country giving greater emphasis to its claims on the South China Sea, making the disputed waters and its numerous islets and reefs more clearly seem like national territory.
Previous maps published by the government already include China's claims to most of the South China Sea, but in a little box normally in a bottom corner to enable the rest of the country to fit on the map.
The new, longer map dispenses with the box, and shows continental China along with its self-declared sea boundary in the South China Sea - stretching right down to the coasts of Malaysia, Vietnam and the Philippines - on one complete map.
"The islands of the South China Sea on the traditional map of China are shown in a cut-away box, and readers cannot fully, directly know the full map of China," the ruling Communist Party's official People's Daily said on its website.
Old maps make the South China Sea's islands appear more like an appendage rather than an integral part of the country, which the new map makes "obvious with a single glance", the report added.
"This vertical map of China has important meaning for promoting citizens' better understanding of ... maintaining (our) maritime rights and territorial integrity," an unnamed official with the map's publishers told the newspaper.
China's foreign ministry said people should not read too much into the issuing of the new map.
"The goal is to serve the Chinese public. As for the intentions, I think there is no need to make too much of any association here," ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told a daily news briefing.
"China's position on the South China Sea issue is consistent and extremely clear. Our stance has not changed."
Beijing claims about 90 percent of the South China Sea, but parts of the potentially energy-rich waters are also subject to claims by the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan.
Philippine Foreign Ministry spokesman Charles Jose said the publication of the map showed China's "unreasonably expansive claims" that he said contravened international law.
"And it is precisely such ambitious expansionism that is causing tension in the South China Sea," he told reporters.
Tensions have risen sharply in the region in recent months, especially between China and both Vietnam and the Philippines.
China's positioning of an oil rig in waters claimed by both Beijing and Hanoi last month has lead to rammings at sea between ships from both countries and anti-Chinese violence in Vietnam.
It is trash.
China map 1904, territory of China is ended at Hainan Islands.
See how the pinoy twist the words and claim singapore support their clause.
Stop playing with words and China dont just draw map. We have ships and finance and military to back our drawing. Unlike the pinoy who need to beg their former colonist to get help.
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Wow see how filipino cry on uncle sam's lap.
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For the nth time read the title of the map.It is trash.
China map 1904, territory of China is ended at Hainan Islands.
It really is quite boring interacting with PDF Vietnamese as they can't even read Hanzi then expect Chinese to agree with them.
