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Okay, u violate the law to get the oil, and we get the support from the world. Its a good chance for VN to have a closer relationship with US-EU and get more advance tech from them to get richer and strongerWe take criticism and get the oil.
Great deal for us.
Okay, u violate the law to get the oil, and we get the support from the world. Its a good chance for VN to have a closer relationship with US-EU and get more advance tech from them to get richer and stronger
What we want now is the support from the World, and the better relationship with US-EU to get richer. We wanna get rich first. Understood ??Who is stopping you?
Go right ahead.
btw, we are drilling in our EEZ.
Points are addressed above, you hold ZERO advantage over our airforc and navy over the Spratly; that's the reason why you did not even dare to attack us when we were in the 90's
The distant between Hainan to the Spatly is about 1500 km while the combat range of the Flankers and its variants is 2000 km; 3000+ km is just ferry range. Yes, you will need serious refuel to go to Spratly. Hence, you can only put a limited # of jets all in once at the same time which will limit your numerical superiority over us. And get real please, you have more jets but many more enemies to deal with and more territory to guard. If there is military conflict, it will be between the Guangzhou Military District's airforce at most. My estimate is that at best you can put 10 jets all in once at the same time.
Does it look to you like we're losing sleep over your airforce having any kind of advantage over us in the Spratly? Had we converted 6 submarines into 60 Flankers, we would have had 96 Flankers at the moment but we chose not to because your airforce was never viewed as the biggest threat to us.
Who told you that the Kh-59MK is 120 km?. The Russian sold us the Yakhont at 300 km so you would better believe that the Kh-50mk is 285 km. The Migs21 can carry two a2a missiles to attack you while you are doing refueling or on your one way mission back to base, my friend
Do you know how the curvature of the earth blocks radar detection range? If our Su22 fly at 200 meters above sea level, your radar can only pick us up at 80 km. At that range, we're already in the range of the KH-31 missiles to launch at your ship Horizon calculator - radar and visual You want to talk about how your navy can sink our navy in a ship to ship engagement? Sorry to disappoint you but the curvature of the earth won't allow your radar to pick us up earlier and vice versa. In a ship to ship engagement, our missile boats can fire 16 kh-35 missiles at you and God helps you if you can engage those missiles from all directions
Ok, our subs can use to launch anti-ship missiles then.
Since you mention that you're going to put your SAMs on the Spartly reefs, I can tell you that a 150km rocket can take them out with ease because all the reefs/islands in this area are very close to each other, sometimes just a few nautical miles apart. We can park our S-300 on the Spratly to provide extra air cover for our airforce while you hopelessly trying to park your SAM on a congested reefs; good luck with that
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Về thông tin Trung Quốc báo động chiến đấu cấp 3 ở biên giới
HỒNG THỦY1 thảo luận15/05/14 10:21
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Về thông tin Trung Quốc báo động chiến đấu cấp 3 ở biên giới - Quốc tế - Giáo dục Việt Nam
What we want now is the support from the World, and the better relationship with US-EU to get richer. We wanna get rich first. Understood ??
The oil rig issue can be solved later
My rebuttals aboveooh this is rich hahaha, so china dared to attack in the 70's and the 80's but suddenly china didnt "dare" to attack in the 90s, what did vietnam get weapons from atlantis in the 90s? fact is china has acted again and again to defend its interest when they are threaten. it did so in the 50s fighting a conventional war against the UN led by the US, it did so in 62 in response to the indian forward policy, it did so in the 70s to demonstrate vietnam-soviet alliance was worthless, it did so in 80s with the naval skirmishes, it just so happens that more recently no one has so openly challenged china's core interests therefore no open war was necessary, the 90s saw the fall of the soviets so a major threat disappeared, and more minor threats such as vietnam did not warrent war.
The reason why China has not attacked Vietnam in the Spratly because China knows that Vietnam holds the military advantage
let us assume, that all of the above is true (and i dont agree with much of it, but regardless) would you agree that building major bases right in the island group would solve all of the above problems for china?
Nope, a base in the Spratly that you build out of a reef can easily be taken out by our EXTRA rocket or ballistic missiles; that is assuming that you can even build a base that can support take off and landing and a base that can house even a few jets.
yea and i already said subs are more dangerous than anything else vietnam has. unfortunately for you however, china has operated kilos for far longer than vietnam and has far more subs of all type to play this game.
Unfortunately for you Vietnam also has submarines to counter the sub force of your South Sea Fleet. Most of your subs in the south sea fleet are cold war relic.
lol right so you are somehow gonna magically park rockets and sams on islands(your transport ships are magically invincible to chinese subs, cruise missile, air force, and navy i guess lol), while china with its far larger and better air force/navy cant do the same? lol china actually has 1000 km+ range cruise missiles in additions to srbm, like it or not, the entire island group is within range of a ton of chinese weapons and even more so when an airbase is built
We have real islands in the Spratly here, buddy. Our transport vessels have been carrying supplies and troops to the Spratly islands eveyday and up till NOW you don't even know what we have transported to the Spratly. You can try to pound our real islands with whatever you wish but we just pound your "sea base" with our own ballistic missiles and EXTRA rockets and your entire operation in the Spratly will cease immediately. You rely on a sea base to operate while we don't; that is even assuming that you can build a sea base in the Spratly
I'm not losing sleep over any military conflict over the Spratly or even the Paracel with you guys
Unfortunately for you, China has massive land mass to defend and 7 potential enemies that China has to allocate its forces to such as Russia/Taiwan/SK/Japan/India/U.S..and Vietnam. Unlike the U.S who does not have to worry about any threats surrounding its border, Chinese forces are spread thin to defend on many fronts/enemies hence you have many military districts1. no, actually the india-tibet border is one of the lightest defended borders in china(numbers wise), why is this you ask? because given the terrain, there no use to station a ton of troops unless war has already broken out, any major move by india could be spotted way before they are ready given the difficulties of getting everything up there. furthermore heavy tanks is all but useless there, so any combate is likely to involve a very small number of forces and almost no heavy equipment.
2/3 china does keep a large number of missiles and the north sea fleet basically all for japan, china also does keep a lot of missile and the east sea fleet at taiwan area. but heres the thing, china has a heck of alot of missiles.
4. this is where the best chinese divisions are stationed, the force there is trained and equipped to fight a standard american division one on one.
5. the force in point 4 is basically the same one for point 5. given its the same area.
6. surely you have heard of the south sea fleet?
you are assumming the situation is equally bad for china on all front. fact is china-russia relations are on the up and up, threat of war is extremely remote. large scale combat with india is also extremely unlikely. and PRC-ROC tries are currently amicable with a very remote chance of serious tensions at the moment. therefore it leaves two problem areas, namely the north east with possible NK situation and japan, and the south with the various island disputes. this is hardly unmanageable.
Yes, US , pls help us to sue China to international court. Its time for a better relationship between US-VN15/05/2014
VietNamNet Bridge – The Vietnamese Government can sue China in the International Court of the Law of the Sea, while the Vietnam Oil and Gas Group (PetroVietnam) may sue the China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC) in the civil court of Vietnam. So says Attorney Hoang Ngoc Giao, Director of the Institute for Legal Policy and Development.