South China Sea Forum

[Tshering22]

Philippines has more guts than our government. At least it is standing up for its rights.

 

[Zero_wing]

Hey Scatlander, the only country which is ramping tension is the US which is imposing a new colonial rule, no need to be an expert in foreign policy to conclude that the US is behind all the tensions in Asia. The US sees that its influence is declining amid China growing economic influence. So in view of restoring its influence, the US is imposing a divide and rule plolicy by blaming everything on China which is portrayed as the World evil to replace the ex-USSR, Bin Laden etc. It is the US which is pushing the Philippines to bash China while the Philippines Government is pushing hard to restore relation coz they know that the only country which could invest in their country is China and not the US. The Philippines is begging to meet the forthcoming new Chinese President and sending envoy to Beijing to restore relations but at the same time Philippines must satisfy the US demand by continuing to add flame in the current tension with China. Same thing with Japan, the Japanese Government has just beg and send envoys to restore relations with China while it is addting tension to the territorial claims at the request of the US which wants China to pay for its support to Syria and Iran.

Hahahaha one that's full of bull because we are pulling investments out many countries we can live without china our largest investors are Korea, US, Japan, Uk and the European Union, and Russia then china which we are getting less of so we can live without useless china besides her economy is going down soon

 

[gpit]

translate to English

"Major General Nguyen Thanh Tuan, director of the Propaganda and Training Department, General Political Department, said" VN protects the island by the world's most modern weapons".

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It is a miracle that one of the most backward countries in the world has the world's most modern weapons.

 

[NiceGuy]

It is a miracle that one of the most backward countries in the world has the world's most modern weapons.

We're long time ally of former Soviet and Russia now, so it's not hard to have Missile technology transfer from Russia

Even our nuclear capable plus anti-carrier missile Shaddock alone is far better than any China's anti-ship missile

 

[faithfulguy]

We're long time ally of former Soviet and Russia now, so it's not hard to have Missile technology transfer from Russia

Even our nuclear capable plus anti-carrier missile Shaddock alone is far better than any China's anti-ship missile

This is an old piece of crap that is retired by Russia. How can a missile with CEP of 3000m hit a ship consistently. Are you sure that Russian are your friends? You need to get a more modern missile from them.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Yeah, including the indians also because you guys are the 1st batch of illegal immigrants to grab their lands, IMHO.

BTW, if you guys are really sincere, go and ask only the indigenous ASSAMESE whose have been living on that piece of lands for many many many many many ... generations (even way before the british india existed) whether they want indians to leave as well.

Please do the needful things to show case that india is indeed the world democratic country by not depreiving others to make their choices. And thank you for your generous gesture to allow me to speak my mind. LOLOL...

Good to know one Sinaporean who says Bangladeshis in Assam should leave.

 

[NiceGuy]

This is an old piece of crap that is retired by Russia. How can a missile with CEP of 3000m hit a ship consistently.

We've collaborated with Russian experts to upgrade the missile for long time already. it has Mach 2.5 now

btw: CEP of 3000m is for land attack version developed in 50's , the antiship version in 60's have much better CEP and now it's CEP is much much better

The P-6 [SS-N-3a Shaddock] is a more accurate cruise missile later developed for targeting US Aircraft carriers. This radar-homing missile is launched from Echo II and Juliett submarines and flies to a maximum range of 220 nm at a cruise speed of Mach 1.2. A 2200-lb conventional or nuclear warhead is estimated for the SS-N-3a
SS-N-3 / SSC-1a Shaddock - Russian / Soviet Nuclear Forces

Are you sure that Russian are your friends? .You need to get a more modern missile from them

Russia just sold us K300P Bastion-P, a very powerful mobile coastal defence missile system and specially she sell weapons to us on Creadit. Only true and longtime friend will do like that.

btw: I don't know if your China sell all of her weapons to Pakistan on Credit or not.

 

[Viet]

It is a miracle that one of the most backward countries in the world has the world's most modern weapons.

It is a miracle, that you are so ashamed of your origin country. And it is amazing to see a backward country defeated the more advanced one several times since ancient times.

Do you want to try? just send your warships into our waters, and we will see how fast they sink!

 

[applesauce]

It is a miracle, that you are so ashamed of your origin country. And it is amazing to see a backward country defeated the more advanced one several times since ancient times.

Do you want to try? just send your warships into our waters, and we will see how fast they sink!

chinese warships have been sailing in what u claim to be your waters for...well since even before the founding of the peoples republic, vietnam tried shooting at our ships once in 1974,just once and the result was the fishes got fat from feeding on your sailors. oh the ships are sill hanging around

 

[Viet]

chinese warships have been sailing in what u claim to be your waters for...well since even before the founding of the peoples republic, vietnam tried shooting at our ships once in 1974,just once and the result was the fishes got fat from feeding on your sailors. oh the ships are sill hanging around

So did Vietnamese warships.

Second, I admit the battle of Paracels was a huge defeat for the South Vietnamese Navy, and was a big disgrace and treason from our former US ally. All South Vietnamese never forget this.

Third, I can tell you about our Naval victory of the battles of Bach Dang river in ancient times, where we sent the invasion forces of Imperial China and Mogolian into the bottom of the sea!

 

[gpit]

For anyone interested in the Sino-Vietnamese Agreement on Maritime Boundary Delimitation in the Gulf of Tonkin, here is a web link:

http://community.middlebury.edu/~scs/docs/zou keyuan-sino-vietnam boundary delimitation.pdf

Sure. Let me provide my personal opinion.

I remember a business course that teaches that a contract is meaningful only if the two parties are sincere in the business. Otherwise any contract is as useless as BS.

Vietnam PM Van earlier agreed in writing that VN supports China’s claim of Spratly is Chinese territory,

and now all sorts of Vietnamese are attempting to deny that in a clownish way, because they believe Vn no longer needs China.

Really doubt how meaningful current agreement will be given Vietnamese past unsincere and untrustworthy behavior. China must not think the agreement will settle anything: in the future the Viets may will negate whatever they agree today, because unfortunately to VN as now VN still relies on Chinese economy.

 

[Fanling Monk]

Look what I found, an old map from Qing Dynasty (1644-1911)

 

[Viet]

Look what I found, an old map from Qing Dynasty (1644-1911)

Ok...but you forgot to show us the maps which did not inlcude the large parts of China today.

 

[Viet]

Sure. Let me provide my personal opinion.

I remember a business course that teaches that a contract is meaningful only if the two parties are sincere in the business. Otherwise any contract is as useless as BS.

Vietnam PM Van earlier agreed in writing that VN supports China’s claim of Spratly is Chinese territory,

Again, at that time only the North Vietnamese National Assembly had the absolute authority to declare and decide about sovernrity. Not the government or the prime minister.

This piece of paper is worthless. Anyway the paper does not mention anything related to the South China Sea and Islands.

 

[EastSea]

Sure. Let me provide my personal opinion.

I remember a business course that teaches that a contract is meaningful only if the two parties are sincere in the business. Otherwise any contract is as useless as BS.

Vietnam PM Van earlier agreed in writing that VN supports China’s claim of Spratly is Chinese territory,

and now all sorts of Vietnamese are attempting to deny that in a clownish way, because they believe Vn no longer needs China.

Really doubt how meaningful current agreement will be given Vietnamese past unsincere and untrustworthy behavior. China must not think the agreement will settle anything: in the future the Viets may will negate whatever they agree today, because unfortunately to VN as now VN still relies on Chinese economy.

North Vietnam didn't have rights over Islands of South Vietnam. Geneva 1954 China and north Vietnam signed it. China have to know it. Chinese stop lying about nature of the letter.