South China Sea Forum

[JayMandan]

Get your act straighten out China! Aren't you a member of UN? Aren't you a world leader? Or are you just a world leader in being an a**hole. Which is it? Prove the world perception of you as a bully wrong.

 

[armchairPrivate]

Whatever the "court" decides, China will just gesticulate with its finger.

 

[Martian2]

My comment on The Philippine Star.

US-Philippines deal won't stop China in disputed sea - analyst | The Philippine Star

 

[BoQ77]

Funny the nazis the romans and every empire has said that and yet history has a proven otherwise

Vietnam navy has an exercise with US 7th Fleet, USS John S. Mccain, an Arleigh Burke class destroyer ... in Vietnam EEZ in front of Tien Sa port, Da Nang, Vietnam

 

[BoQ77]

After this, USA feel free to give nuclear technology and material ; as well as lethal weapons to Vietnam without fear.

 

[Martian2]

My comment on The Philippine Star.

US-Philippines deal won't stop China in disputed sea - analyst | The Philippine Star

 

[BoQ77]

Yep. The Vietnamese Hitler will get his Dresden if he tries to get nukes

We will have nuclear energy

 

[applesauce]

After this, USA feel free to give nuclear technology and material ; as well as lethal weapons to Vietnam without fear.

i highly, highly doubt that the US would give any kind of weapons related or even duel use nuclear technology/weapons to vietnam. it is not in american interest to do so. As this move would be illegal and contrary to america's own treaty commitments. and even if you leave that aside, it would be clear this is a major escalatory move against china, which incidentally has nuclear capability as well and can play the same card against the US by giving the same know-how/materials to countries unfriendly to the US.

 

[BoQ77]

i highly, highly doubt that the US would give any kind of weapons related or even duel use nuclear technology/weapons to vietnam. it is not in american interest to do so. As this move would be illegal and contrary to america's own treaty commitments. and even if you leave that aside, it would be clear this is a major escalatory move against china, which incidentally has nuclear capability as well and can play the same card against the US by giving the same know-how/materials to countries unfriendly to the US.

applesauce, 123 agreement would come into effect in late May 2014.
it doesn't means US transfer the nuclear weapon to Vietnam ... but nuclear powerplant or other kinds of using nuclear energy ...

 

[applesauce]

applesauce, 123 agreement would come into effect in late May 2014.
it doesn't means US transfer the nuclear weapon to Vietnam ... but nuclear powerplant or other kinds of using nuclear energy ...

correct. civilian tech. which no one really has too much problems with as vietnam shows no signs that would would try to do anything military with it.

 

[BoQ77]

correct. civilian tech. which no one really has too much problems with as vietnam shows no signs that would would try to do anything military with it.

Yes we do nothing related to military with it, if no one threaten us with nuclear weapon ...
North Korea develop nukes to defend themselves ...

We guess we are in more peaceful situation and have more friends than NK

 

[applesauce]

Yes we do nothing related to military with it, if no one threaten us with nuclear weapon ...
North Korea develop nukes to defend themselves ...

We guess we are in more peaceful situation and have more friends than NK

no one is threatening to invade/nuke mainland vietnam(internet fanboys aside). even if vietnam had nukes, no one in their right mind would use it over a maritime dispute(not to mention the international backlash), and frankly, despite the disputes, the communist party relations are fairly good. North korea has nukes because they fear the US/SK might come to actually end their country, whether that fear is baseless or not is debatable though. thats said, clearly more subs/ships/planes would do more good for the maritime dispute than nukes ever could. which isnt a problem bcause we do agree that they aren't planning/trying to militarize the tech, so everyone's happy then.

 

[BoQ77]

no one is threatening to invade/nuke mainland vietnam(internet fanboys aside). even if vietnam had nukes, no one in their right mind would use it over a maritime dispute(not to mention the international backlash), and frankly, despite the disputes, the communist party relations are fairly good. North korea has nukes because they fear the US/SK might come to actually end their country, whether that fear is baseless or not is debatable though. thats said, clearly more subs/ships/planes would do more good for the maritime dispute than nukes ever could. which isnt a problem bcause we do agree that they aren't planning/trying to militarize the tech, so everyone's happy then.

good approach.
whoever use nuclear weapon to other ... ? there's only one.
the most powerful one

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

good approach.
whoever use nuclear weapon to other ... ? there's only one.
the most powerful one

A country like Vietnam can only build a primitive cumbersome firecracker like North Korea, no one would be really afraid of your nuke.

But if a major nuclear power that keeps hyping your nuclear capability, then you better to be really careful about this dangerous warning. Since they have the plan to invade your country in their mind. North Korea is just a prime example, since the US just keeps hyping NK's non-existential nuclear capability. If it wasn't China, the US would already launch the invasion against NK.

The US usually develops a different set of propaganda against the foes of different categories.

Against a powerful foe like China, they will usually downplay China's nuclear capability, just to assure to their little allies that China's nuclear capability is still "weak", so don't worry too much about them.

Against a weak foe like NK, they will over-exaggerate its nuclear capability since they want to have a legal excuse to invade them just like they did in Iraq for the non-existential WMD.

 

[cirr]

Hull sections of China Coast Guard‘s 1st 12000-tonne vessel being assembled at JNS：

You guys will see a lot of this monster in the SCS in a couple of years。