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Unmanned Survey Craft carries out its first measurements in the SCS:

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We are now in the MODERN World.

The RAPE of NANKING has passed

We have now INTERNATIONAL LAWS to follow.

We have UNITED NATIONS now.

If you dont follow the LAW, NANKING will be raped again. Remember that

LMAO ZEDONG! :omghaha:
Your colonial masters couldn't save you when we grabbed Scarborough Shoal. We grabbed Ayungin Shoal and you are still crying for daddy. After the Spanish, Americans and Japanese raped you Pinoys you worship them. It's time for China to continue the long tradition of foreign masters for the Pinoys! :lol:
 
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Your colonial masters couldn't save you when we grabbed Scarborough Shoal. We grabbed Ayungin Shoal and you are still crying for daddy. After the Spanish, Americans and Japanese raped you Pinoys you worship them. It's time for China to continue the long tradition of foreign masters for the Pinoys! :lol:

Wow so its a shoal not an island so your occupying it good to know your admitting that peaceful rise is a myth :rofl:
 
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Your colonial masters couldn't save you when we grabbed Scarborough Shoal. We grabbed Ayungin Shoal and you are still crying for daddy. After the Spanish, Americans and Japanese raped you Pinoys you worship them. It's time for China to continue the long tradition of foreign masters for the Pinoys! :lol:

I don't think you can invade the Ayungin. Filipino troops are there.

Also we actually have to THANK you for invading Scarborough reef, again reef. The issue was INTERNATIONALIZED. ROGUE CHINA was in the front page everyday. Also, we were able to SUE CHINA. China gave us the GO SIGNAL TO SUE THEM. China gave us the GO SIGNAL for AFP modernization. China gave the GO SIGNAL for the American ASIA Pivot.

The case has been filed. Once we get the LEGAL papers from the court, China know what to do next. Walk out of the REEFS and features they illegally occupy OUT OF SHAME.

hahahaha!

Again, thank you for the GO SIGNAL.

lamo zedong!
 
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I don't think you can invade the Ayungin. Filipino troops are there.

Also we actually have to THANK you for invading Scarborough reef, again reef. The issue was INTERNATIONALIZED. ROGUE CHINA was in the front page everyday. Also, we were able to SUE CHINA. China gave us the GO SIGNAL TO SUE THEM. China gave us the GO SIGNAL for AFP modernization. China gave the GO SIGNAL for the American ASIA Pivot.

The case has been filed. Once we get the LEGAL papers from the court, China know what to do next. Walk out of the REEFS and features they illegally occupy OUT OF SHAME.

hahahaha!

Again, thank you for the GO SIGNAL.

lamo zedong!
:omghaha: Keep begging your colonial masters....
 
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Xisha Islands or Paracel Islands 中国西沙群岛
珊瑚岛 Pattle Island
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US to block moves to seize control of disputed seas
(The Philippine Star) | June 6, 2013

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KUALA LUMPUR – The United States will oppose moves by any country to seize control of disputed areas in the South China Sea by force, the top American military commander in the Pacific said yesterday.

Adm. Samuel Locklear added that rival claimants might need to seek compromises to resolve the feud over potentially oil-rich territories.

The commander of US Pacific Command did not mention any country by name, but China’s increasingly aggressive claims to disputed islands have triggered worries about confrontations with others, including the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei.

“We will oppose the change of status quo by force by anyone,” Locklear told reporters during a visit to Malaysia.

“We need to retain the status quo until we get to a code of conduct or a solution by party nations that is peacefully accepted.”

Southeast Asian governments want a legally binding code of conduct with China to deter hostile actions and prevent fighting. But Beijing has not clearly said when it would discuss the proposal.

Locklear said the US would not take sides but added that a code of conduct that enables maritime officers “to understand the boundaries of what they can do (would be) in the best interest for a peaceful solution.”

He nevertheless said tensions were unlikely to escalate badly because the countries “understand this could be a long process, they understand restraint.”

China has sought to resolve disputes through bilateral talks.

Locklear visit

Locklear is expected to visit Manila on June 6 to 7 to discuss security matters with his Philippine counterparts.

“During his visit, Admiral Locklear will consult with defense officials in the Philippine government on a range of common security challenges,” the US embassy in Manila said without elaborating.

Locklear will meet with Armed Forces chief Gen. Emmanuel Bautista and Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin. His visit will not be open to the media.

Locklear’s visit follows his attendance at the recently concluded Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore where he met with security officials from the region.

Last week, US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel reaffirmed Washington’s commitment to the Mutual Defense Treaty with Manila, now embroiled in a territorial row with China.

Hagel made the commitment during a meeting with Gazmin on the sidelines of the Shangri-La Dialogue.

The defense department has welcomed Hagel’s statement and is hopeful that the US will continue backing efforts to maintain freedom of navigation in the Asia Pacific region.

“We look forward to the continuous and more active role of the US in contributing to the freedom of navigation in the region,” defense department spokesman Peter Galvez told The STAR in a recent interview.

Tensions in the West Philippine Sea mounted last month after China deployed three ships around Ayungin Shoal, within the Philippines’ exclusive economic zone.

The Philippines has protested China’s illegal deployment of vessels in its territory in violation of international law. The protest, however, fell on deaf ears as China continued to send ships and vessels around the shoal, just 105.77 nautical miles from Palawan.

Latest monitoring by Philippine authorities showed that at least three Chinese ships have remained in the area.

China’s intrusion is not limited to Ayungin Shoal as Chinese ships continue to patrol the Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal, a Philippine-owned area located 124 nautical miles from the nearest base point in Zambales. – AP, Alexis Romero

US to block moves to seize control of disputed seas | Headlines, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com
 
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China, ASEAN nations discuss South China Sea issue: spokesman

BEIJING, June 6 (Xinhua) -- Representatives of China and the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) recently met and discussed the South China Sea issue, a Foreign Ministry spokesman said Thursday.

The eighth joint work group meeting on implementing the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC) took place in Bangkok on May 29, spokesman Hong Lei told a daily press briefing.

Hong's comments came after Acting US Assistant Secretary of State Joseph Yun on Wednesday said China and the ASEAN countries made progress during a meeting last week.

Hong did not specify details, but said the meeting was of great significance and recognized the positive progress made in implementing the DOC in 2012, including cooperation in disaster prevention and reduction and maritime ecology.

All parties agreed to fully and effectively implement the DOC and mapped out the work plan for 2013-2014, Hong said.

China, Thailand, Indonesia and Cambodia have raised nearly 10 cooperative proposals like setting up the China-ASEAN maritime emergency rescue hotline, Hong said.

The meeting also looked into how to promote the Code of Conduct of the South China Sea (COC) and enhance its understanding among countries, Hong said.

The meeting agreed to maintain dialogue and negotiations and decided to hold the ninth joint working group meeting in Beijing later this year, Hong added.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/06/c_132436221.htm
 
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Taiwan hopes to join South China Sea dialogue: MOFA
2013/06/06

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Taipei, June 6 (CNA) Taiwan looks forward to taking part in a South China Sea-related dialogue and mechanism, and working with other countries in the area to maintain regional peace and stability, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) said Thursday.

The ministry was responding to remarks made a day earlier by Joseph Yun, the U.S. acting assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs, in which he said the recent diplomatic rift between Taiwan and the Philippines over a fatal shooting has highlighted the importance of formulating a code of conduct for disputes over the South China Sea.

Yun was referring to the shooting death of a Taiwanese fisherman by a Philippine coast guard patrol vessel in the overlapping waters of the two countries' exclusive economic zones May 9. The killing has put the two countries at loggerheads.

Noting that China and the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) are expected to begin negotiations on a code of conduct for disputes over the South China Sea, Yun said he sees no reason that other related parties should be exempted from observation of the code of conduct.

Yun made the remarks at a South China Sea conference sponsored by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington-based think tank.

Responding to Yun's statements, MOFA spokeswoman Anna Kao said all island chains in the South China Sea are the Republic of China's sovereign territory, as are the waters surrounding them.

The ROC is nevertheless willing to shelve disputes and cooperate with neighboring countries in exploring resources in the region, in line with the principles of reciprocity and peaceful solutions to disputes, she said.

"We also hope that the ROC will be invited to participate in dialogue and mechanism related with South China Sea issues," Kao said, adding that Taiwan is more than willing to collaborate with neighboring countries in pursuing regional peace and stability.

On Taiwan-U.S. relations, Kao said the government has been promoting bilateral engagement in a low-key and surprise-free approach since President Ma Ying-jeou assumed office in 2008.

Over the past few years, she said, Taiwan-U.S. dialogue and interaction have been growing smoothly without any glitches.

Taiwan hopes to join South China Sea dialogue: MOFA | Latest | FOCUS TAIWAN - CNA ENGLISH NEWS
 
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UNCLOS does not support China's claims, US naval expert says

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By Jojo Malig, ABS-CBNNews.com
Posted at 06/06/2013

MANILA, Philippines - China is rejecting the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) to settle disputes in the West Philippine Sea because Beijing knows its claim is not supported by the international law, a US naval expert said Thursday.

Peter Dutton, a professor of Strategic Studies and director of the China Maritime Studies Institute at the U.S. Naval War College, said at a Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) conference in Washington, DC, that China has not fully adopted UNCLOS' rules.

"China has refused international law because they know it does not support their claims," he said. "States deviate from international norms when [these] does not meet their objectives and have power to shield selves from non-compliance."

He added that instead of allowing UNCLOS and the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (ITLOS) to settle disputes in the region, China has been using non-militarized coercion in the West Philippine Sea since 2008 to stake its claim.

"Not history, not power, but international law should be used to decide issues in the South China Sea," he stressed.

"The most significant strength of an international treaty law is to establish norms and expected behavior," he added.

Dutton said China's use of coercion and force prompted the Philippines to bring its domestic law up to international standards.

Dr. Nguyen Dang Thang of the Vietnam Lawyers' Association told the gathering that there should be no tension in the West Philippine Sea if nations uphold UNCLOS.

'Constitution for oceans'

"UNCLOS is a constitution for the oceans," he said.

He added that China cannot selectively use UNCLOS' provisions. "If you apply UNCLOS, you apply it fully," he said.

Thang said that under international law, "There is no clear legal basis for China's claim over the South China Sea."

Henry S. Bensurto, Jr., secretary-general of the Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs' Commission on Maritime and Ocean Affairs, said any management of disputes in the West Philippine Sea must be based on international law.

"International law becomes a common language in the West Philippine Sea, yet the interpretation can differ from state to state," he said.

He added that a "future based on international law is more stable than future based on power or coercion."

"The general rule with UNCLOS is compulsory jurisdiction," he said.

Chiang Kai-shek's 9-dash line


Bensurto also dismissed China's claim on West Philippine Sea, particularly Beijing's 9-dash line map that was created by Chiang Kai-shek and renegade Kuomintang forces in Taiwan.

"[Under UNCLOS,) you are not supposed to occupy unoccupied features," he said, referring to China's claim.

"How can you have historical claims to continental shelf? A continental shelf is a modern concept," he added.

Supreme Court Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio earlier said China's 9-dash line claim to almost the entire West Philippine Sea violates UNCLOS.

"China's 9-dashed line claim converts the South China Sea into an internal Chinese lake, allowing China to unilaterally appropriate for itself what belongs to other sovereign coastal states, in defiance of UNCLOS," he said.

"China's 9-dashed line claim simply cannot co-exist with UNCLOS –one kills the other," Carpio said. "To uphold China's 9-dashed line claim is to wipe out centuries of progressing the law of the sea."

Dr. Xinjung Zhang, an associate professor of Public International Law at the Tsinghua University Law School, defended China's stand.

"China's arguments regarding the Philippines' claim are reasonable based on Article 286 of UNCLOS," he claimed.

Disputes under ITLOS

Article 286, however, states that any dispute concerning the interpretation or application of UNCLOS should be to an international court or tribunal, specifically ITLOS.

"If the court rules in favor of Philippines and China does not accept, the Philippines can use this in negotiations," he said, insisting that Manila and Beijing should just settle their dispute through bilateral talks.

De La Salle University professor Dr. Renato C. De Castro, meanwhile, said the Aquino administration will press on in its bid to have the dispute settled under UNCLOS and not either by force or by bilateral talks.

"Under this administration, the Philippines will not back out from the UN arbitration process," he said.

Bonnie Glaser, the CSIS' senior adviser for Asia, Freeman Chair in China Studies, praised the Philippines for bringing up the issue at an international tribunal under UNCLOS.

"Countries should take their disputes to international courts for settlements," she said.

She also expressed disappointment at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations for remaining silent on the Scarborough Shoal standoff between the Philippines and China last year.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/focus/06/06/13/unclos-does-not-support-chinas-claims-us-naval-expert-says
 
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Amid territorial dispute with China, Philippines turns into showcase site of US warships

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MANILA, Philippines - Amid its territorial dispute with China, the Philippines has turned into a popular site to showcase the warships of the United States. This year alone, the several US destroyers have visited Philippine shores.

On Thursday, the US Embassy in Manila said its Navy submarine tender USS Frank Cable (AS 40) and submarine USS Asheville (SSN 758) will arrive in Subic Bay on June 7 and June 8, respectively.

The USS Frank Cable is its second time to visit the country this year.

The US calls such visits “routine port calls” but they notably come every time China presses its claims over the Spratly Islands.

But the Chinese warships, and maritime and fishing vessels now “guarding” the Ayungin Reef. China has also maintained its “presence” at the Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal off Masinloc, Zambales, where Filipino fishermen could not go anymore for fear of harassment or possible arrest or execution for “intrusion.”

Earlier, citing the nuclear threat of North Korea, Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin and Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario said the US military may use the country as a military base in case of “extreme emergency.”

In fact, since January this year US warships that already visited the country include USS Freedom (LCS1), USS Tortuga (LSD46), USS Ohio, USS Decatur, USS Emory S. Land (AS39), USS Blue Ridge USS Stockdale (DDG106), USS Cheyenne (SSN773), USS Guardian (MCM5), which met its demise at Tubbataha Reef, among others.

“During their visit, the Frank Cable and Asheville will refuel and receive supplies, and the crew will be given opportunities for community service in nearby areas as well as rest and recreation,” the US embassy said.

The L.Y. Spear-class USS Frank Cable (AS-40) was commissioned in 1980. It is nearly 200 meters long and has a crew of 1,500. The Frank Cable serves as the US 7th Fleet’s mobile repair and support platform. The ship is named after Frank Taylor Cable, one of the pioneers in the development of submarines for the US Navy. It is homeported in Guam.

Named for the city of Asheville, North Carolina and commissioned in 1991, the USS Asheville is a Los Angeles-class submarine. It is 91 meters long, and has a top speed of 32 knots underwater. The Asheville is homeported in San Diego, California.

Also, US Pacific Command chief Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III arrived in Thursday for a meeting “with his counterparts.”

Locklear will stay in the country for two days.

It must also be noted that defense ministers from the Asia Pacific nations had just met for a security conference in Singapore where it a reported that the US reaffirmed its 62-year-old Mutual Defense Treaty with the Philippines.

Amid territorial dispute with China, Philippines becomes venue to showcase US warships - InterAksyon.com
 
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Don't get your hope too high with US help, be prepare to joint all Asian countries to defense Asia from China when US leave Asia.
US are building up the heat in Asia so Asia can destroy her self then US will come back and take Asia with less trouble.
 
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